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Old 16-08-2009, 02:00 PM   #61
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This is not about a five year old riding a motorcycle where she shouldn't have been thats what started it. It's about her smart **** dad who gave the police some back chat. The local inspector when interviewed said the police where going to let them off with a caution but after a little banter from S/A they used their discretion and the weight of the law.As you guys often say ,if you play you pay, well he's not laughing now is he. Good on the boys in blue they cop enough s__t form various offenders .He even let fly at the mayor who was trying to calm the situation. Throw petrol on a fire and you will get burned.
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Old 16-08-2009, 02:11 PM   #62
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Its a near identical situation to the girl on the bike there are proper facilities for her to go riding and given the police force in Vic i think the 5yr old was lucky not to get shot or tazed.
i have lived in victoria all of my life and have never had a problem with the police. i generally live inside the law though, and when sometimes outside it (speeding for instance), am always polite to them - why, because i broke the law. they are just doing their job - and when being polite, discretion has shown on a number of occasions. and if no discretion was shown - i should not have broken the law in the first place
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i have lived in victoria all of my life and have never had a problem with the police. i generally live inside the law though, and when sometimes outside it (speeding for instance), am always polite to them - why, because i broke the law. they are just doing their job - and when being polite, discretion has shown on a number of occasions. and if no discretion was shown - i should not have broken the law in the first place
The only time I had anything to do with the police was two days ago, they knocked on my door and said my wallet had turned up at a police station in a town near by. I thought that was pretty nice.
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Old 16-08-2009, 03:01 PM   #64
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The only time I had anything to do with the police was two days ago, they knocked on my door and said my wallet had turned up at a police station in a town near by. I thought that was pretty nice.
Gee, what did you do that made your wallet run away to a police station in a nearby town? Its a clever wallet!

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This is not about a five year old riding a motorcycle where she shouldn't have been thats what started it. It's about her smart **** dad who gave the police some back chat. The local inspector when interviewed said the police where going to let them off with a caution but after a little banter from S/A they used their discretion and the weight of the law.As you guys often say ,if you play you pay, well he's not laughing now is he. Good on the boys in blue they cop enough s__t form various offenders .He even let fly at the mayor who was trying to calm the situation. Throw petrol on a fire and you will get burned. Cheers GT450
One hand hand you'd think fair nuff, on the other - deal with the dad under another law, offensive language/behavior et al, not effectively punish the little girl by taking her 49CC bike.

I guess the man was simply incredulous 'at the situation', and hence the flames on his part? Did the mayor simply parrot vis; under Clause 2A of the LGA's Parks and Public Places Act, little girls can go to hell?

Yes, bow before your local government masters civilian dogs, praise those in such lofty, elite positions of 'power' such as the Aussie town mayor, give no lip boi!

IF however the man owns and drives a Commodore; all bets off, we'll take his house too, you'll see.

Wonder if this will make ACA or TT?

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Old 16-08-2009, 03:20 PM   #65
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I have to concede that regardless of how innocent their motives may seem in the media, I think it is pretty inconsiderate in respect to the noise.

I think if the parent's were genuine they would have found a more suitable location for her to ride to her heart's content and not annoy anyone else in the process.

It is not the girls fault as at that age she can only rely on advice from her parents, therefore she suffers due to their indifference and ignorance.
are u serious? noise. its not the loudest thing you hear around the streets.
and was she driving it at stupid hours

i hate people who complain about noise . i can understand it if it were night time or early morning, but its not hurting anyone.

on topic though

i agree the law is the law. it can be dangerous and blagh blagh

but seriously a warning would have been sufficient. its not like she was riding a 250 like a lunatic weaving in and out of kids flying kites and flicking dirt and gravel up at them
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are u serious? noise. its not the loudest thing you hear around the streets.
and was she driving it at stupid hours

i hate people who complain about noise . i can understand it if it were night time or early morning, but its not hurting anyone.

on topic though

i agree the law is the law. it can be dangerous and blagh blagh

but seriously a warning would have been sufficient. its not like she was riding a 250 like a lunatic weaving in and out of kids flying kites and flicking dirt and gravel up at them
Where does it stop then? Do you let ALL the kid's in the neighbourhood ride their bikes in the park then? Imagine that noise.

And as other's have written here: if the father had not failed the attitude test - then the outcome may have been different.
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it seems that one thing has been forgotten - must have been forgotten because no one here is ever ignorant
the frankston council has had a war on unregistered motor bikes for a couple of years now. i do not have one, but know that if i did and rode it illegally, it would be taken off me. with those rules in place, why is the council or police at fault
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With some of the responses here it is easy to see why there are noise abatement laws and why they are enforced rigorously.
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Where does it stop then? Do you let ALL the kid's in the neighbourhood ride their bikes in the park then? Imagine that noise.

And as other's have written here: if the father had not failed the attitude test - then the outcome may have been different.
no you dont
thats not acceptable (and not because of the noise levels) but thats not the case here. it was 1 little girl being supervised. get the father on the other offences he supposedly did. dont confiscate someone elses property for something so minor

theyve effectively taken candy from a baby then bragged about it
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no you dont, thats not acceptable
Well, regardless of whether you think my opinion is acceptable; we're gonna agree to disagree on this one.

The parent's are responsible for what she does as they are supervising sure, and I know that a pee wee does not emit a great deal of noise but as I stated before, where does it stop? The next weekend you have the park full of pee wee's zooming around.

I myself live in a semi-rural area and when I was her age I had a Honda 70cc trike that I used to belt around a public reserve that surrounded a lake and had a walking track, the next thing...all my mates and all the other kid's in the area decided to do the same thing...see where this is going?

No, there's a time and, more importantly: a place and I am sure that the father was perfectly coherent enough to be able to find another place for her to ride a motorbike...a public park is not that place and I will not be swayed on that belief.
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All fun and games until someone else wants to use the park at the same time.

We have a few kids (young teenagers) that ride a 4 wheel motor bike up and down the foot path. Which is fine, Except for the cars parked on the foot paths that they are zooming in between. And lets not forget (heaven forbid) you want to reverse out of your own drive way, or walk your own dog along the same footpath......
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...... No, there's a time and, more importantly: a place and I am sure that the father was perfectly coherent enough to be able to find another place for her to ride a motorbike...a public park is not that place and I will not be swayed on that belief.
Agree!

I would say there are 2 problems ..... both lack of brains from the parents.

1: The dad let the kid ride a motor bike (Doesn't matter what size) in a public reserve. Police responded and said to stop

2: The dad had a bit too much to say so the bike was removed.

Thats really it. Give too much lip and suffer the consequences. Unfortunately the 5 year old got caught up in they hype but stiff. If he just said "Fair enough" and walked away ...... end of story and no one would have heard about it. It happens everyday with police having to parent parents rather than what most here would consider more important stuff.



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It is now illegal to have your car lowered as much as yours is without engineering approval etc. which I think now classifies you as a hoon, your insurance is moot etc. etc.

Great these laws aren't they....?
haha yeah anyone on hear who says it's the law on so on, i suggest you go outside and have a look at your car, cause unless it is stock standard or has ADR compliant modifications on it you are hypocrites!

Hell I'm sitting at my computer and I can think of at least 2 laws I am braking right now that don't relate to my cars, and no it don't relate to porn ether!
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