Hyundai top seller for June

[Gadgetman]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

Salesmen hey....they tell you one thing and do another

ha ha customers, They always tell the truth!

[Gadgetman]

Originally Posted by Joe5619

hahahahaha.. This one made me laugh.. First half = "stop hating", second half = nothing but hate!!

My comments are justified. Just ask half the forum owners that own a DCT focus? I dont hate the focus, I dont own one but have spoken to many a customer who have. Lots on this forums that reckon the Focus is a dud. But i do realise its a ford forums and you have you be careful to call a car as it is if its a Ford.

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by Gadgetman

My comments are justified. Just ask half the forum owners that own a DCT focus? I dont hate the focus, I dont own one but have spoken to many a customer who have. Lots on this forums that reckon the Focus is a dud. But i do realise its a ford forums and you have you be careful to call a car as it is if its a Ford.

That wasn't the point. You bagged someone for putting out the hate....then spent the rest of your post....putting out the hate
This is a ford forum....were all pretty aware of focus and fiestas pros and cons.

I still remember you bagging me for cross shopping a G6ET,Ranger and Terri, saying people don't do that (but I did) You then didn't believe I was quoted a 3mnth wait for the ranger I wanted and swore u could get anyone any ranger they wanted within a week.
Didn't see one post of yours in the RANGER section of the forums helping out the pile of guys waiting and worried about their massive delivery times.
So forgive me if I'm hesitant to respect your comments ATM!

[russellw]

The first set of graphical statistics is now uploaded to the Technical Portal.

Cheers
Russ

[Rico 110s]

Originally Posted by vztrt

From their press release.

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This graph seems a little ones sided from some manufacturers point of view Ford Trucks would fall under the Ford Banner but GMC is identified as stand alone from Chevrolet let alone it's Buick subsidiary name that also should fall under GMC.

When you look at it carefully some brands can actually do really badly in the "Industry Average"Chrysler/Dodge/Ram and some really stand out like the Mazda, Mitsubishi or Mercedes as they are true stand alone manufacturers.

[MrZ]

Russ, you state that the Dualis is down 75% compared to last year. Since the Dualis was discontinued last year, this is pretty much irrelevant.

[russellw]

Originally Posted by MrZ

Russ, you state that the Dualis is down 75% compared to last year. Since the Dualis was discontinued last year, this is pretty much irrelevant.

As is your comment.

Russ

[Peterwl]

Originally Posted by Brazen

5500 Hyundai I30s plus its sedan version, Elantra with 689. Its a massage result. Doesn't even include its sister the Kia Cerato.

I'm surprised with all small these 4 cylinders sales, where are they all? Where I live all new cars are basically dual cabs or Commodores.

Perhaps the reason that Hyundai 130's have had a sudden jump in sales is because they do not have Stop Start ! The Corolla and Mazda 3 do have it.

[russellw]

The Segment Review for Quarter 2 has now been uploaded to the Technical Portal.

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Russ

[russellw]

The Supplementary statistics for June are now uploaded to the Tech Portal.

Cheer
Russ

[russellw]

The first half truck sales statistics have been uploaded into the tech portal.

Cheers
Russ

[SumoDog68]

Originally Posted by Peterwl

Perhaps the reason that Hyundai 130's have had a sudden jump in sales is because they do not have Stop Start ! The Corolla and Mazda 3 do have it.

Main reason for i30 jump was $19990 driveway price with automatic included. As far as I know Corolla does not have stop start technology .

[csv8]

Ford may as well shut up shop now..Fords small cars are dead to buyers. Ford need a total rethink..advertising, pricing and go back to torque convertor auto..If Holden can get Barina to sell . why cann't Ford get Fiesta to sell??????All road reports on new ,Mondeo have it let down by steering and suspension, which seems strange..???? sad to see how far Ford has fallen...

[XR Martin]

Latest Wheels says the Mondeo steers and handles as good as a 3 series with M-suspension...

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by csv8

If Holden can get Barina to sell . why cann't Ford get Fiesta to sell??????

Because sheep will buy anything with a Holden badge. Fiesta is also three years older and starting to show its age. Its all new replacement can't be too far away.

Originally Posted by csv8

All road reports on new ,Mondeo have it let down by steering and suspension, which seems strange..???? sad to see how far Ford has fallen...

All reports? I don't know which ones you're reading, but the ones I've read suggests that, while they have lost some of the edge of the previous generation Mondeo (perhaps attributable to the switch to electric power steering), they remain a decent steer and far better than most others except the Mazda 6, but the Mondeo rides better and is more refined than the 6.

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by csv8

Ford may as well shut up shop now..Fords small cars are dead to buyers. Ford need a total rethink..advertising, pricing and go back to torque convertor auto..If Holden can get Barina to sell . why cann't Ford get Fiesta to sell??????All road reports on new ,Mondeo have it let down by steering and suspension, which seems strange..???? sad to see how far Ford has fallen...

I myself have only read one article that bagged the steering or the suspension. Most of the others awarded either besting in class or were impressed. How many tests have you read? There was a very bad one recently.....

[thecaptain]

Originally Posted by SumoDog68

Main reason for i30 jump was $19990 driveway price with automatic included. As far as I know Corolla does not have stop start technology .

Having driven an i30 several times, i gotta say, for a compact runabout, not a half decent product. Perfect for my grandma!

[csv8]

Cars Guide July 4 Sydney Telegraph said new Mondeo was let down by its steering & suspension. Plus Govers spiel.

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Latest Wheels says the Mondeo steers and handles as good as a 3 series with M-suspension...

Wheels? No way man, you gotta be mistaken. Aren't they that biased magazine? You know where Ford is hated...

[Gadgetman]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

I still remember you bagging me for cross shopping a G6ET,Ranger and Terri, saying people don't do that (but I did) You then didn't believe I was quoted a 3mnth wait for the ranger I wanted and swore u could get anyone any ranger they wanted within a week.

Sorry dude. I know exactly where you're coming from in being undecisive. I am not sure whether i want a Mesarati Quattroporte or a Hilux SR5 either?

[DanielXR8]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

5500 i30's sold last month. Wonder how many of them were actual sales?

Either rental companies have had a end of financial year buying spree or there will be plenty of so called "showroom demo's" popping up for sale in the next few months.

Nissan thought this was a good idea 18 months ago and it didn't go down well for them.

Umm since Falcon sales include fleet, rentals etc, why shouldn't Hyundai's?

Falcon was the fleet queen for many years.

[DanielXR8]

Originally Posted by csv8

Ford may as well shut up shop now..Fords small cars are dead to buyers. Ford need a total rethink..advertising, pricing and go back to torque convertor auto..If Holden can get Barina to sell . why cann't Ford get Fiesta to sell??????All road reports on new ,Mondeo have it let down by steering and suspension, which seems strange..???? sad to see how far Ford has fallen...

I think Fords problems run much, much deeper than the range of product. Ford Australia and the dealer network have done a lot of damage to the brand over decades. Now its catching up with them.

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by DanielXR8

I think Fords problems run much, much deeper than the range of product. Ford Australia and the dealer network have done a lot of damage to the brand over decades. Now its catching up with them.

Back in Ford's heyday they could rebadge Kia's as Ford Festivas and move a fair few units. Now Ford as a brand is about as prestigious as a cuss word. And yes, the Ford dealer network and corporate culture have a lot to answer for. But Product Development are definitely not short of skills or talent, as evidenced in what they were able to produce locally and for international projects.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by new2ford

7 seater for midgets. It's virtually in the RAV4 category, it's just tried to pretend it was a Territory alternative for years and a lot of people have fallen for it. Shorter wheelbase, narrower inside, smaller luggage capacity.

Then there's the driving experience ....

So what if it's smaller. Bigger is not always better. The Falcon and Commodore have proven that.

I drive a '7 seater for midgets' and would NOT have got the Terry if it was identical in all areas bar size as my other half doesn't like big / wide cars.

Even if it were cheaper... Don't care. Luggage space? Driving experience? Meh. Value for money, warranty and gadgets is what I (and most buyers I believe) wanted.

My wife drives a Mirage and all the BS people pumped into her when she was pregnant was a joke. You must get a bigger car, you will need the space, you can't fit all the stuff you need etc etc etc. Apparently even a Camry or i45 is too small for some people.

How oh how do Europeans get around in a Corolla as the ideal family car?

Well, the pram fits in the boot with space for her baby bag and shopping goes in the back seat. Or the pram goes in the back seat and the boot becomes empty.

In some cases, less is more...

[Express]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Latest Wheels says the Mondeo steers and handles as good as a 3 series with M-suspension...

It just shows how opinions can really differ.

Having driven both the BMW and Mondeo I can only laugh.

When my sister recently decided to trade her Cruze on a bigger car I did a little bit of review searching and I’d say the bulk of reviews disagreed with Wheel’s well known even handed right on the money assessments.

Not that she cares how a car handles, her first priority is looks and what colours they're available in.

She bought a Trend.



Motoring said:

If you wanted evidence of why people like rear-wheel drive, Mondeo is exhibit A.
Drive experience is antiseptic by Ford’s standards.

http://www.motoring.com.au/reviews/2...5-review-50428


CarsGuide said:

The Mondeo feels sure-footed in corners and supple over most bumps, although not best in class based on our preview drive.

http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-revi...6#.VZnnzsIw9hE


Caradvice said:

Overly light and uncommunicative steering.
It’s not quite as sharp as the old car though. The new electric steering is direct and quick, but devoid of feel and feedback and a little too reluctant to load up beyond the realms of urban twirling.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/347430/2...tch-and-wagon/


Drive said:

Both models drive the front wheels with a minimum of fuss, helped by an electric power steering system that counteracts torque steer and other distractions, such as vibrations from an imbalanced wheel or jagged road edges.

The system retains an impressive level of clarity to a driver's fingertips, trading perhaps the finest points of steering feel for refinement in a compromise many owners will be happy to meet.

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-review...18-1milx6.html


Wheels said: (I couldn’t see any reference to it being in the league of a Series 3 with M tuned suspension)

And boy does it handle. The cohesion of the Mondeo’s dynamic abilities is deeply impressive.

From the attitude of its body and suspension as you start to apply lock to the positivity of its front end and the corner-enhancing involvement of its excellent rear suspension, the Mondeo feels much smaller than its size and weight would suggest.

Fling it down a twisty road and you’ll revel in its poise and adjustability, guided by an electric steering system that feels hydraulic most of the time.

Ride quality and road-noise refinement are two other new Mondeo hallmarks.

http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/reviews/...mondeo-review/

[chopstar87]

Large Car Segment Winners:
1.Holden Commodore (2,772 – 68.9%)
2.Toyota Aurion (563 – 14%)
3.Ford Falcon (531 – 13.2%)

Would this be the first time the Aurion has out sold the falcon??

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by chopstar87

Large Car Segment Winners:
1.Holden Commodore (2,772 – 68.9%)
2.Toyota Aurion (563 – 14%)
3.Ford Falcon (531 – 13.2%)

Would this be the first time the Aurion has out sold the falcon??

Shame. Like being beaten up by a 12 year old girl. Absolute shame.

[Polyal]

OMG that is a horrific stat!

[Bossxr8]

New Mondeo suffering a little because it shares everything with the Yank Fusion? We all know american's have different tastes to Europeans. I'd like to know how different they are in steering and suspension setup.

[russellw]

It's not the first time.

December 2014 - Falcon 578 - Aurion 867
October 2014 - Falcon 396 - Aurion 405
June 2014 - Falcon 552 - Aurion 798
August 2013 - Falcon 573 - Aurion 655
July 2014 - Falcon 594 - Aurion 604
December 2012 - Falcon 1,111 (those were the days) - Aurion 1,255
January 2012 - Falcon 931 - Aurion 989

Cheers
Russ