Crying Ford worker with Ford flag drives off... - Page 3

mr smith · 09-10-2016, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by STINKY NINJA

Dumbest thing ive heard/read today...

You dont get it? Ask a 10 year old, they will see the stupidity in proclaiming your a proud aussie or Ford Australia fan while driving an imported car.
No problem driving an imported car or using imported goods, just dont pretend to be sad or a "proud aussie" when local factories close.

mr smith · 09-10-2016, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben73

Not really the same thing.
I'm guessing everything in your house is made in Australia?

I love Australia, I would love if everything I bought was Australian made, but let's be honest, we know that is not going to happen. Even if you tried it still wouldn't happen.

More than most peoples.
If I cant get local next best is supporting countries that pay proper wages and have proper human rights.
I dont shop at Bunnings either.

Stefan · 09-10-2016, 05:47 PM

Please advise where the "All Aussie" Hardware store is located?

BENT_8 · 09-10-2016, 07:13 PM

Will be interesting to see what brand of cars flow out the gates when its Holdens turn...

MrEL · 09-10-2016, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

Will be interesting to see what brand of cars flow out the gates when its Holdens turn...

VT commodes on cut springs and chasers.
Will be a full single legger burnout comp at the gates providing its raining.

Bossxr8 · 09-10-2016, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PG2

Factory workers (now ex-factory workers) could buy a Falcon for not much more than a Kia Cerato.

Would still be over 30+k for an xr6. 21% discount.

BENT_8 · 09-10-2016, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MrEL

VT commodes on cut springs and chasers.
Will be a full single legger burnout comp at the gates providing its raining.

Lol, on $60k+ per year, yeah...nah

CoupeKing · 09-10-2016, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

Will be interesting to see what brand of cars flow out the gates when its Holdens turn...

Half will be picked up by their sponsor, the other half in the back off cattle trucks.

BENT_8 · 09-10-2016, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Half will be picked up by their sponsor, the other half in the back off cattle trucks.

Nah, they'll probably use the $60k they get for the next 12 months of employment for a stretched pink Hummer limo...

STINKY NINJA · 09-10-2016, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mr smith

You dont get it? Ask a 10 year old, they will see the stupidity in proclaiming your a proud aussie or Ford Australia fan while driving an imported car.
No problem driving an imported car or using imported goods, just dont pretend to be sad or a "proud aussie" when local factories close.

Second dumbest thing ive read/heard today...

I actually do get it, that's why what your saying is such a load of tripe!
Why cant you be a proud aussie and drive a foreign car,what law prevents that from happening,only the weird backward laws in your brain matter.
People driving Honda civics and rice burners with aussie flag stickers are the reason the falcon died bahahaha

Sabantien · 09-10-2016, 09:28 PM

It's somewhat amusing vision, but it's not a surprise they're not all in Falcons.

There's a huge range of car types, and I saw a good many of them in the car park. Ford produced a 4 door sedan and an SUV. If you don't want either of those, why would you buy one?

Would old mate driving out in a Thai built Ranger instead of a Hilux have helped him keep his job?

Quite honestly, would each and every worker there buying a Falcon have saved the local industry? Doubt it.

SumoDog68 · 09-10-2016, 10:01 PM

Does this mean Ferrari workers must all drive Ferraris ?

malazn mafia · 10-10-2016, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SumoDog68

Does this mean Ferrari workers must all drive Ferraris ?

Are Apple employees allowed to use Samsung and Microsoft products ?

Stefan · 10-10-2016, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mike_nofx

Well its more like walking out of an Australian chocolate factory eating a Japanese chocolate bar and crying "why didn't people buy my chocolate?"

It's not comparable, because chocolate is chocolate.

A falcon and Hilux do different things, he might be into fishing, camping, hunting, 4x4 and the falcon does not suit his needs, he can only afford one car.

A better comparison is a bloke walking out of an Australian womens clothing manufacturing company crying he lost his job because of lack of sales, but he is wearing mens clothing. Now we flame him for not wearing women's clothes.

SumoDog68 · 10-10-2016, 07:27 AM

Looks like we have a bit of reverse logic at play here . You can't blame customers for lack of sales (including employees). As we all know there were many factors involved (Dearborn decisions ,one Ford , government subsidies , cost of production ,exchange rates , emission laws etc.) but in reality it is manufacturers role to offer a product people want to buy.

Franco Cozzo · 10-10-2016, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SumoDog68

Does this mean Ferrari workers must all drive Ferraris ?

The difference being new Falcon with employee discount would be sub $30K and new Ferrari 488 costing circa $500K.

Apples, Oranges

SumoDog68 · 10-10-2016, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

The difference being new Falcon with employee discount would be sub $30K and new Ferrari 488 costing circa $500K.

Apples, Oranges

Is that with Ferrari employee discount ? My Ferrari analogy was a joke of course , fact remains that business can not be expected to survive based on what their employees choose to drive. Employees trade their skill , time and passion for money and what they buy with their money is their business.
People who are seen to be influential in the market are given the product for free and are called brand ambassadors these days.

Joe5619 · 10-10-2016, 09:07 AM

I did have to laugh seeing the Ford flag out of a hilux.. FFS, if the employees don't even support the plant (don't they get a great discount as well??) they work in, then I'm sorry, they can't be that upset as they were part of the problem!!! I own a brand new Falcon & did more for them, then they did for themselves..

2011G6E · 10-10-2016, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mike_nofx

...In his Hilux.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/workp...07-grx73y.html

And look at the rest of the imported cars leaving the site, driven by (mostly) sad Ford workers who now have no job.

Yes...I wasn't going to mention it, but everyone noticed that.

I'm reminded of the time the Gemini production plant in Brisbane closed, and the news story on the TV showed the workers leaving for the last time in an almost literally endless stream of Gemini sedans, coupes, vans, and wagons...nearly every worker seemed to own one from the years they were produced.

I remember seeing a TV special about Mercedes, and once again, the workers car park was chockers with Mercedes cars. At the time (early 1990's) the workers got a sweet deal of 50% off the normal purchase price of a Mercedes (keeping in mind Mercs are a lot cheaper in the first place in Germany and lower models are just taxis). The only proviso was that they had to sign an agreement that they wouldn't sell the car for a minimum of two years to stop people scamming it by buying and reselling the cars.

And really, while I feel sorry they lost their jobs, the Ford workers had a few years to prepare and get ready...not even counting people who left smiling saying they got several hundred grand as a payout...which is more than most workers get, which is a couple of weeks at most. Sometimes people turn up on monday morning to locked gates and a receivers notice hanging on the door. They should be very careful about how much they whinge.

And yes, the guy in the TV example driving the Hilux might own one because "a Falcon won't do what he wants"...but a Ford Ranger would.
Of course given the staggering cost of Rangers when you add one or two options, you can't blame people for going for something else. We would have had a Ranger...loved the look of them...but when (as we did) you want a diesel auto 4x4 twin cab with a few extras and are looking at a price well up nearing $65,000, something like a Triton for well over twenty grand cheaper looks like a good deal....

Sleek the Elite · 10-10-2016, 09:27 AM

Absolute goose that guy in the Toyota.

Went home to his Toyota 86.

Wretched · 10-10-2016, 09:29 AM

I am in two minds on this one, always advocated that we should have the freedom to buy whatever car we like. That we shouldn't have to buy one particular type just because it was made here.
He may or may not have a Falcon product, but an employee doesn't have to drive the car they are making. The irony would have been if he complained/blamed people buying imports for the failure for Ford manufacturing.

Sprint · 10-10-2016, 09:50 AM

talk about cant see the forest for the tree's, a whole industry gets shut down and people are talking about what car he drives, grow a brain people :/.

Sleek the Elite · 10-10-2016, 09:57 AM

You don't show up at a funeral in an Hawaiian shirt.

The guy is a goose.

Sabantien · 10-10-2016, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011G6E

And yes, the guy in the TV example driving the Hilux might own one because "a Falcon won't do what he wants"...but a Ford Ranger would.
Of course given the staggering cost of Rangers when you add one or two options, you can't blame people for going for something else. We would have had a Ranger...loved the look of them...but when (as we did) you want a diesel auto 4x4 twin cab with a few extras and are looking at a price well up nearing $65,000, something like a Triton for well over twenty grand cheaper looks like a good deal....

Did they build the Ford Ranger in Melbourne? Would that have saved his job?

2011G6E · 10-10-2016, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabantien

Did they build the Ford Ranger in Melbourne? Would that have saved his job?

No it wouldn't. Ford dropped the ball big time (in so, so many ways, this is just one example) by not seeing the booming popularity of twin cabs many years ago and maybe...dare I say...pouring money into locally developing one of them instead of developing the Territory....

Franco Cozzo · 10-10-2016, 10:31 AM

I don't see why they even bothered with Ranger? They would have been better off putting Ranger development money into F series and making it in RHD and with a smaller diesel engine option for markets like ours.

The current F150 has an all alloy body, its 300 odd KG lighter than the previous generation.

The Ranger is about the same size as my F100 anyway.

mcflux · 10-10-2016, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011G6E

No it wouldn't. Ford dropped the ball big time (in so, so many ways, this is just one example) by not seeing the booming popularity of twin cabs many years ago and maybe...dare I say...pouring money into locally developing one of them instead of developing the Territory....

But the Territory was a success story when it came out?

pursuit57 · 10-10-2016, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sleek the Elite

You don't show up at a funeral in an Hawaiian shirt.

The guy is a goose.

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Originally Posted by Sleek the Elite

Absolute goose that guy in the Toyota.

Went home to his Toyota 86.

Sleek, your just another perfect example of a forum basher making assumptions.
You don't know the circumstances around WHY he's driving a non Ford vehicle....for all you know he had to sell his Ford to cover mortgage payments when they were told no job in 6 months...OR maybe doesn't want to take his F6, XR6 or G6E fishing or offroad etc ??
Wake up...

neverready3 · 10-10-2016, 11:07 AM

this is ridiculous the way people are going on here blaming someone who works there at ford and doesn't drive a ford for the collapse , i'am sure most of the workers loved working at ford but doesn't mean you have to drive one. This the closing didn't happen overnight this started 10-15 yrs ago when sales started to drop .

Bill M · 10-10-2016, 11:30 AM

If all the forum Falcon fans and Ford employees bought Falcons it still would be a drop in the ocean. Falcon needed to sell big numbers to the great unwashed not just a small niches.

Whether that Ford employee drove a Falcon or not he did his bit by working there and most of them did for decades. To pick at him is small minded.