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Ford's intentions are pretty clear with the Super Duty.
Watching the 100-years livestream, Ford are investing in more service points, particularly in rural and remote areas. This will address one of the areas where Toyota have excelled. They are also setting up a Ford-backed converting network called Ford Pro, think custom service bodies for fleets, fire and police departments ect. https://www.ford.com.au/ford-pro-convertor/ Quote:
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https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...-beating-specs
Real, practical enhancements that the target market most probably want. And given all the GVM and loading issues in recent years it's a great solution. More capability from an existing platform. It's an impressive launch.
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This will be a game changer:
- the aftermarket GVM upgrade outfits are toast, this makes a mockery of "GVM upgrades" that are underdone and overpriced - there will be a wholesale dumping of 79 series and "standard" Rangers on the used market - Toyota will have something soon enough as a counter, but Nissan and Bitsareshiti are done |
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I’ll have the above extra cab with tray in that desert sand colour thanks Ford!
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A Shark version based on Bao 5/8 running gear with over 4.5t towing and 500 to 600kw power at say 15k to 20k less is coming. The other Chinese brands if they see this is the market will follow suit. |
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It is there to escape the NVES system!! |
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No grey nomads. That sandy toop or troop colour. Surely Ford have done that to troll Toyota and the 79 die hards/Ronny Dahl wannabes. |
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and manual REGEN that commercial buyers requested. 130 litre tank, Heavier suspension and bigger differential Lots to like but I hope the 130 litre tank becomes an option across all models. |
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Has the ten speed transmission in these settled down and proved reliable?
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The only downside I can see is weight
It seems that today, 2500kg is the new 1600kg Across the board in the car market. There are some big buddahs getting around on the roads
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"The Ford–GM 10-speed automatic transmission is part of a joint venture between Ford Motor Company and General Motors to design and engineer two transmissions: a longitudinal 10-speed transmission and a transverse 9-speed trans-axle. Each company manufactures its own unique version of the transmissions in its own factories. The 10-speed transmission was designed by Ford, while the 9-speed transmission was designed by GM." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford%E...c_transmission GM use the 10L designation, Ford use the 10R designation. Both brands have different torque capacities depending on application and engine. 10R60 - Explorer, Ranger and Bronco. 10R80 - Mustang, F-150, Ranger, Everest, Expedition, Transit, Navigator, Police Interceptors, even the VW Amarok. 10R140 - F-Series Super Duty There are also 10R MHT hybrid designations. That's a lot of models, then add the GM trucks, SUVs and Camaro, I'd say its well proven by now.
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I think the rules have changed now, but not so long ago, all you needed to up the GVM was a piece of paper from an engineer. We used to do it for all our mine-spec utes, cos by the time we added all our gear, it didn't leave much for actual payload.
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Came across this post on Facebook, presenting an interesting point of view regarding allowing anyone to drive such a heavily laden setup without prior experience or driver training.
https://www.facebook.com/smarttouringsystems "We’re witnessing a pivotal moment in Australian automotive history. Ford is creating something that everybody wants - but the real question is, should everyone have it? Because once this Pandora’s box is opened, there’s no going back. That said, hats off to Ford - the specs are nothing short of jaw-dropping. So below are some points I jammed into Chat GPT and asked for the most sarcastic version as it totally makes more sense this way. Enjoy! "When I say we’re witnessing automotive history, I mean it in the most explosive way possible. Because you can bet your last dollar this thing is about to spark a full-blown payload and towing arms race. If the other brands don’t pull something magical out of their hat soon, this Super Dooper Ranger Danger (that bit is mine 🤪) is going to steamroll fleet sales and become the one-size-fits-all weapon of choice for anyone wanting to tow, tour, or just feel like the king of the bitumen....with double decker jet ski trailer (also mine😂). The American 1500-class trucks? Yeah, thanks for coming—your services are no longer required and really never were. Heavy-duty 2500 utes and Isuzu trucks? Great, if you want to take out a second mortgage and have a Light Rigid license. The domestic utes like the D-Max, the very frightened Triton, or the unbreakable timing chain rattling over priced and under specced Hilux have no hope. Oh and the standard non-danger spec Ranger will be worthless. 70 Series LandCruiser? Please. No space, glacially slow, outrageously overpriced…and I say that as someone who's made the mistake twice. $300 000 Series Landcruiser? Cute. Try again. Now, everything about this Super Dooper Heavy Duty Do-It-All Ranger Danger sounds like a dream come true - until you remember one teeny little thing... Do we really want the bloke, lady, person (not sure what's allowed there) who’s never towed anything heavier than a lawn mower suddenly cruising down the highway with a 4,500kg guided missile bouncing behind his 3,000kg Danger Ranger? Picture it: overtaking lane, downhill stretch, 50 knots of crosswind - and boom. You’re an unwilling extra in the next action movie. Maybe : Rangers Gone Wild? that could work😎 Sure, the American 1500s have already been doing this on a car license, but this Ranger? is about to bring this overweight but legally towing thing to the masses. Will this finally trigger some sort of driver training or license upgrade? Maybe. Or maybe we’ll just see another "safety initiative" that suspiciously resembles a revenue stream. And let's not even start on the aftermarket. How long before someone slaps a GVM upgrade on this beast so it can legally tow 32 tonnes, with a GCM of 67T, ride on 40-inch tyres, with a coil rear end and integrated twin jet ski holders on the roof? Sorry, got a bit carried away there 😂 And the price for all this ridiculousness? Oh, just a modest $80,000 (I did walk in to Ford today and ask - not locked in, but could be). Pocket change for world domination." I’ve tried really, really, really hard, not to want one. But here I am, convincing myself that Commander Grey is a totally responsible colour choice 🤯😃😡🤥 Hurry up, Toyota! Put the bloody V6 in the next Hilux/70 series thing and make it just like the one above, and when you do don't double the price and leave the cup holders out. Or I'm out!"
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Jeez, you might have a case if it wasn’t for the fact that plenty of folks have been towing heavy loads
with the older.smaller Landcruiser and Patrols for decades. So while some think that this will open the floodgates to a tow ratings war, I think prices of SD Ranger will keep this to a reasonable few sales. And yes, Training people to tow responsibly should have been part of a drivers licence endorsement years ago for anything more than a light box trailer. It wouldn’t have to be anything more than a few hours with an instructor and a decent practical and written test. |
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When one of my clients bought a sizable caravan last year, due to her husband's failing eyesight, she is the one doing the driving. To her credit, she went and did a trailer towing coarse. I personally think something like that should be mandatory over a certain size and weight. There are far too many first time caravan owners on the road towing MASSIVE rigs that are bigger than some trucks. The truck driver needs a special license and is required to provide a logbook, and yet there is nothing to stop someone going out and buying a massive caravan and towing it around the country with an equally massive 4WD. I'd wager that is more risky than the truck driver.
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I may have missed it but has Ford actually said there is more than one trim level? Pat Callinan said in his reveal video that there is only one trim level. Which makes sense since as it appears from what I've seen to be a mix of XL and XLT parts. Plus they've said the alloy wheels aren't available at launch. They will be added in 6 months. Which also suggests a single trim level.
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Its about damn time.
I must admit my standard Thai Special really struggles with my Caravan. Can't wait to trade it in for a Super Duty. ![]()
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The Thai plant where these will be made only make XL, XLS and XLT models. (Auto Alliance)
Someone on another forum tried to order one and was told they can only be ordered via Ford Fleet.
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