FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread - Page 302

FGX335 · 12-09-2014, 08:02 AM

They've updated the site again to fix some specs, but now the wheel sizing has been deleted for XR8?

Also, those of you with a GT need not worry, as the XR8 weighs a good 30kg more.

**Polyal** · 12-09-2014, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FGX335

They've updated the site again to fix some specs, but now the wheel sizing has been deleted for XR8?

Also, those of you with a GT need not worry, as the XR8 weighs a good 30kg more.

Id take the 30kg and save $10-20k thanks.

baboon · 12-09-2014, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Will Hagen ,Motor Torque, ABC radio 10pm, 11/09/14,new Falcon has 3 aerials , 1 on roof, 1 in front bumper , wifi hotspot. He said excellent range of engines ,the pick is the LPG.

Thanks for this.

Found here (windows media player needed): http://www.abc.net.au/local/global_i...?date=20140912

Segment starts at 3:55 in. Hang in there its a wiggles big red car opening...

19:00 in, talks of the ranger $200 offer, then of the falcon.

FGX335 · 12-09-2014, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Id take the 30kg and save $10-20k thanks.

Well, I didn't pull the trigger on an FPV did I? ;) Couldn't justify the spend.

Quite right, considering what comes standard on the XR8, I'm not surprised it is heavier.

Could I be considered obsessed if I have bought the K&N filter for this already? My wife just laughed and rolled her eyes...

**Polyal** · 12-09-2014, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by FGX335

Well, I didn't pull the trigger on an FPV did I? ;) Couldn't justify the spend.

Quite right, considering what comes standard on the XR8, I'm not surprised it is heavier.

Could I be considered obsessed if I have bought the K&N filter for this already? My wife just laughed and rolled her eyes...

Ha I would be making space in the garage already.

SensationFG8 · 12-09-2014, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by FGX335

They've updated the site again to fix some specs, but now the wheel sizing has been deleted for XR8?

Also, those of you with a GT need not worry, as the XR8 weighs a good 30kg more.

Just quietly I don't think anyone with a GT is worried... They still have a GT and there is so much to it that isn't replicated in an XR8 (not that the XR8 is a bad car, it's bloody good).

The GT has never been about gadgets as far as I can tell. I see a BA XR8 on the road I barely notice it, I see a BA GT on the road and my head turns. The toughness that is added by the bespoke exterior of the FPV's should not be under estimated.

Alan D Segal · 12-09-2014, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Id take the 30kg and save $10-20k thanks.

Me too. You could always take the spare and the jack out if it comes with one. Then you're probably back around GT weight if you're heading to the track.

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Originally Posted by SensationFG8

I see a BA GT on the road and my head turns. The toughness that is added by the bespoke exterior of the FPV's should not be under estimated.

Ditto. But unfortunately most of the time it is because the BAs I see are in really bad condition. FPV or Ford, they are all starting to show their age. I'd call my XR8 a roughie, but it is still better than a lot of the BA GTs I have seen getting around.

Uwish · 12-09-2014, 09:26 AM

I think those with FG GTs will be a little envious.
XR8 for under 60k with R-spec suspension, staggered wheels, Hot new front end, jag style rear lights and BLACK roof lining!

Once it ( teh xr8 ) comes out I will make up my mind on what colour to buy...
Black, white or some sort of Grey

**Polyal** · 12-09-2014, 09:30 AM

Since that topic will end in tears and alot here dropped good money on a retuned GT then perhaps we should leave that one alone?

Both cars are exceptional. FWIW I actually love the FG XR8 shape, that with a newer n/a 5.0 would have had me weak at the knees.

Still no decent shots from Ford of the rear end?

richo77 · 12-09-2014, 09:37 AM

I dont see the fascination in black headlining but each to his own. VE S & SS commodore's had them and I think they were dropped for VF.

usernametaken · 12-09-2014, 09:52 AM

How gorgeous is the 'paid actor' selling the ranger on TV at the moment.

If she legitimately worked for Ford selling cars, she would have the blokes lined up to take the Ranger for a test drive.

I'd just hand her a blank cheque.

smokin'!

Alan D Segal · 12-09-2014, 10:32 AM

She looks like a teenager. I can understand that you and others might go for that, but she's far too young looking for me. They should have got Catriona Rowntree or someone who looks like her.

FGX335 · 12-09-2014, 10:41 AM

Now they've removed all information on the V8! Ok, I'm going to stop looking now, I'm guessing that the pages aren't meant to be properly live as they are hard to find in the firsy place.

baboon · 12-09-2014, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by usernametaken

If she legitimately worked for Ford selling cars, she would have the blokes lined up to take the Ranger for a test drive.

...what ranger?

Romulus · 12-09-2014, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Uwish

I think those with FG GTs will be a little envious.
XR8 for under 60k with R-spec suspension, staggered wheels, Hot new front end, jag style rear lights and BLACK roof lining!

Once it ( teh xr8 ) comes out I will make up my mind on what colour to buy...
Black, white or some sort of Grey

If the new XR8 used a US type blower and intercooler setup then I would be. But it doesn't, therefore I'm not. Mines still a GT, the other is a XR8.

fordwood · 12-09-2014, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by FGX335

Now they've removed all information on the V8! Ok, I'm going to stop looking now, I'm guessing that the pages aren't meant to be properly live as they are hard to find in the firsy place.

Maybe they have decided it will now come with no engine at all... BYO

baboon · 12-09-2014, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FGX335

Now they've removed all information on the V8! Ok, I'm going to stop looking now, I'm guessing that the pages aren't meant to be properly live as they are hard to find in the firsy place.

Yeah according to the website now the XR8 will have all the features of the XR6 Turbo, i assume the same engine as well?

FGX335 · 12-09-2014, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by baboon

Yeah according to the website now the XR8 will have all the features of the XR6 Turbo, i assume the same engine as well?

They need to stop being lazy and list the specs of each car properly. Stating 'as per XXX plus' is hard to follow, and I like to see my information together. Following the bouncing ball makes it harder to absorb the full list of goodies.

First world problems hey?

rancidpunx · 12-09-2014, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Uwish

I think those with FG GTs will be a little envious.
XR8 for under 60k with R-spec suspension, staggered wheels, Hot new front end, jag style rear lights and BLACK roof lining!

Once it ( teh xr8 ) comes out I will make up my mind on what colour to buy...
Black, white or some sort of Grey

Ford will have emptied the parts bin into the XR8 on purpose. They WANT GT owners to be envious because it may attract them into the showroom for the "upgrade". Ford dont care about loyalty or keeping FG owners happy, they have their money already. They certainly will not be writing off FG FPV owners as potential customers for the new XR8 by not making it attractive with features that their cars do not have. Maybe the reason there are no engine specs listed is because they intend to throw the 351 in there. We assume it will be the 335 but the 351 might be enough to get customers across the $65k+ line or get FG GT owners to trade up. Its not like the engine will cost them any more but they will be able to ask a higher RRP because of it.
FPV owners though do have an exclusive product that is no longer available with a badge that holds a lot of history in the country. At this late stage in the game Ford don't care about history, GT's, customer and fan loyalty or any of that. $$$$ is all they are thinking about now.

SensationFG8 · 12-09-2014, 12:03 PM

I actually don't think Ford would consider a Miami GT owner as a likely customer for the FGXXR8. In fact I doubt they'd even think a Boss 315 GT customer is prospective buyer.

I also would've thought most people on here understand why that's the case too.

The XR is going to be a cracking car, but it will never be a GT.

richo77 · 12-09-2014, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SensationFG8

The XR is going to be a cracking car, but it will never be a GT.

The XR8 isnt pretending to be a GT either.

fordwood · 12-09-2014, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by richo77

The XR8 isnt pretending to be a GT either.

Not sure I could justify a GT as a daily driver, an XR8 on the other hand...

rancidpunx · 12-09-2014, 12:22 PM

Everyone is a potential customer. The job of sales and marketing is convincing you that there is value worth buying into. I think a XR after an FPV is a downgrade but Ford are not going to sell it like that, if you can afford the car then you are a potential client. My partners uncle is getting a dealerships first XR8 in NZ, he is trading a GTE.

G6T · 12-09-2014, 12:24 PM

i will be very surprised if the xr8 hasn't got 351kw because the ecu or software whatever they did for gtf its a bit of a step backwards two the 335 maybe it could be badged 335 with some extra go.

NAK302 · 12-09-2014, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Uwish

I think those with FG GTs will be a little envious.
XR8 for under 60k with R-spec suspension, staggered wheels, Hot new front end, jag style rear lights and BLACK roof lining!

Once it ( teh xr8 ) comes out I will make up my mind on what colour to buy...
Black, white or some sort of Grey

6 months ago i sold my ba gt cause i wanted a Mustang. the year long wait, zero information from my local dealer and no word on a supercharged model turned me away. enter ford's announcement of the xr8 with "apparently" fg gt running gear and wheels and another wait without any serious information from ford.

recently i found a beautifully kept, low kilometer fpv built fg gt. those two letters mean way more to me than feeling envious over the hot new front end. i'll be buying the fg gt and save on depreciation.

suttoo · 12-09-2014, 12:27 PM

The XR8 has 335kw, brembos, leather and has black roof lining, Fact!

SensationFG8 · 12-09-2014, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fordwood

Not sure I could justify a GT as a daily driver, an XR8 on the other hand...

Yeah you can, it's easy

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The job of sales and marketing is convincing you that there is value worth buying into. I think a XR after an FPV is a downgrade but Ford are not going to sell it like that, if you can afford the car then you are a potential client.

I agree, but it's also their job to target the people they are most likely to succeed in selling the car to. I'm not sure they would think they have too much chance with too many SC GT owners.

XBv8mmm! · 12-09-2014, 12:34 PM

Just heard a little whisper, pricing and specs for the XR8 will be released on the 3rd of October. On sale 1st of December.

**peaterj** · 12-09-2014, 12:36 PM

I own a GT and am seriously considering an XR8 depending on price and final specs.

**Polyal** · 12-09-2014, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by G6T

i will be very surprised if the xr8 hasn't got 351kw because the ecu or software whatever they did for gtf its a bit of a step backwards two the 335 maybe it could be badged 335 with some extra go.

Not going to happen out of respect for the GTF guys...and would you really do that to the bloke who dropped $200k on a Falcon?

Its 335...they could get away with 315 and it will still smash the SS but since its all in a tune then it keeps a buffer if Holden pull their finger out.