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T3rminator · 03-02-2021, 01:29 PM

If anyone needs hints and tips on how to deal with harsh lock downs, come to a Victorian, or more specifically, a metro melbournian

. Happy to help.

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So the bigger issue brewing are the legalities of the jab...this one is going to be a doozey.

On a personal level I will wait it out as long as I can, but the time will come when I am sure work will push it or I will want to travel. In that case I will comply.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out for those who "cant" due to other medical issues...

We are lucky in that we can sit it out for a bit longer than other countries.

By the time the vaccine is made available to the general pop, we should have had sufficient data on its safety. I think most of the approvals at the moment are only "emergency use".
Also heard a medical expert say that adverse long term effects usually show up within the first 6 months, so we can see how the UKnians are doing.

I'm more worried about those who are over 65, which includes my folks. Germany is saying no to applying Astrazeneca to over 65s, but most others are saying its ok. In China, the elderly and children are not included in the vaccine roll out plan, this is for both their local vaccine as well as non local vaccine. "trials" have only been given to healthy people so there is insufficient data on the elderly and those already with health complications.

**russellw** · 03-02-2021, 01:33 PM

It's been a little while since we looked at which countries have been struggling this last few weeks.

The numbers below look at cases per 100k of total population over the last 14 days.

North America: USA 689 and Panama 454. Only Mexico and El Salvador peaked during the last 14 days.

Europe: Portugal 1,617; Spain 997; Montenegro 995; Czechia 881; Slovenia 827; UK and Latvia both 568 and Estonia 536. Only Portugal and Spain reached a peak in the last 14 days.

South America: Colombia 345; Brazil 334 and Chile 298. Only Bolivia reached a peak during the last 14 days.

Africa: Tunisia 228; Cabo Verde 182; South Africa 172 and Libya 145. Ghana, Nigeria, Mozambique and the Ivory Coast all reached a peak during the last 14 days.

Itsme · 03-02-2021, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

I know this is not the way you meant it, Officemanager, but there's little value to be gained by comparing the level of lockdown.

Lockdown, irrespective of how much or how long, can be stressful and people's trigger points can be different. Just because someone has anxiety/stress issues during a lockdown that is not as prolonged as someone else's, doesn't make it any less relevant.

Let's all be kind and considerate of those who are going through lockdown, no matter how long they've been subject to it.

I take no offense with your comment as I exactly understand what you saying, my comment was bit tongue and cheek ; I will leave it as that otherwise I might upset some plebs.

Mr_G6ET · 03-02-2021, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wodahs

so you wanted me to be clear on my reply before then didnt like my most then accused me of chasing you to your posts prier to this little spat of yours
just because whilst your whinging about how poorly people are treating covid and i stated you could be doing better as well your self

so you dont want me to reply , dm me , and resort to calling me names
you dont want my input then submit a baiting post by taking one word from my post abd adding you little snipe

so im glad ive answered things

your welcome
glad to help

Suggest you check your post before you send it, maybe we can actually understand what you are saying.
What could I have done more ? I was the one wearing a mask before it was mandated.
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**Burnout** · 03-02-2021, 09:58 PM

In a release tonight Vic Health announced that a Hotel Worker had tested positive to Woo Flu.
Looks like Melbourne may be locked up again, if the Govt there is true to form.

Mr_G6ET · 03-02-2021, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Burnout

In a release tonight Vic Health announced that a Hotel Worker had tested positive to Woo Flu.
Looks like Melbourne may be locked up again, if the Govt there is true to form.

So from WA, isn't it 'poor' that we still fall over on lessons learned from other states. SOS, now the WA govt says now the guards outside the door must wear PPE !

Citroënbender · 03-02-2021, 10:17 PM

I was most surprised they were allowed to have more than one job.

Mr_G6ET · 03-02-2021, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

I was most surprised they were allowed to have more than one job.

Our WA Govt was 'bullish' but clearly has 'some' holes in policy

Work Horse · 03-02-2021, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Burnout

In a release tonight Vic Health announced that a Hotel Worker had tested positive to Woo Flu.
Looks like Melbourne may be locked up again, if the Govt there is true to form.

Link?

T3rminator · 03-02-2021, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Work Horse

Link?

The Age. I reckon snap lock down like Brissy and Perth. One positive, I was due to go back to office next Monday, hopefully that now gets canned

**Rallye Sport** · 03-02-2021, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

I was most surprised they were allowed to have more than one job.

They've learned nothing from it either, my streets been awash with a certain food delivery service this evening, yet my job has been deemed non essential so I'm sitting on my **** at home.
I'll keep following the directions but I' am feeling a little disillusioned right now.

MITCHAY · 03-02-2021, 10:55 PM

No lockdown. Masks mandatory in public indoor spaces, house limit reduced from 30 to 15, and lifting the return to work cap paused. Effective 11:59pm tonight.

T3rminator · 03-02-2021, 11:05 PM

Got it from Aus Open hotel. Last day of work on the 29th tested negative. Subsequently felt ill and tested positive on 2nd Feb. Attended a CFA function in the mean time. Sutton just mentioned that his test result showed HIGH viral load, so it is likely close contacts will have it

Surprised no snap lockdown.

**PG2** · 03-02-2021, 11:51 PM

PLEASE DON'T IGNORE

Stop pointing your fingers at each other - some of the people doing the finger pointing are just as bad!

Calling other members an idiot or similar will not be tolerated.

If there is any further name calling you will be having a break from AFF to think about your posting style.

THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER WARNINGS. THERE WILL BE NO EXCEPTIONS. IT WILL NOT MATTER IF YOU ARE A 10 YEAR MEMBER WITH AN IMPECCABLE HISTORY ON AFF.

PS - The moderators and admin are human and we will miss the odd post occasionally. If you have a problem with a post report it. There is no need to post it up. If you do, it will be simply deleted and ignored.

Just FYI, yes, I have had enough.

**FairmontGS** · 04-02-2021, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PG2

PLEASE DON'T IGNORE

Stop pointing your fingers at each other - some of the people doing the finger pointing are just as bad!

Calling other members an idiot or similar will not be tolerated.

If there is any further name calling you will be having a break from AFF to think about your posting style.

THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER WARNINGS. THERE WILL BE NO EXCEPTIONS. IT WILL NOT MATTER IF YOU ARE A 10 YEAR MEMBER WITH AN IMPECCABLE HISTORY ON AFF.

PS - The moderators and admin are human and we will miss the odd post occasionally. If you have a problem with a post report it. There is no need to post it up. If you do, it will be simply deleted and ignored.

Just FYI, yes, I have had enough.

I'm 15 year so I'll assume the above warning doesn't apply

Tennis Zeke sure got around with his mates and part-time jobs. It's times like this I realise how boring my life is...

https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/case-loc...21SNg1VqQ0tRB0

davenl5l · 04-02-2021, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Work Horse

No Sir Tom died with Covid-19.

If the UK had dealt with the pandemic; better, earlier Sir Tom may still be with us.

The internet is full of conspiracy theories that the death toll from Covid-19 is over stated and only old people with one foot in the grave die.

This particular burden on society raised 60 million pounds for charity and earned himself a knighthood in his 99th year.

Sir Tom also raised the spirits of many in his country in a time of deep despair.

Not bad for someone who was going to die anyway.

RIP Sir Tom.

With not of

**cs123** · 04-02-2021, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by T3rminator

Surprised no snap lockdown.

I hope they try and manage it rather than a lock down. Let's turn off a city for 5 days is pretty dramatic.

I think they have their processes down now to stay on top.

**FairmontGS** · 04-02-2021, 08:23 AM

'500-600 people': Australian Open events called off after positive test

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Six Australian Open warmup events have been postponed and up to 600 people have been forced to isolate after a hotel quarantine worker tested positive for COVID-19 in Melbourne.

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/australi...aDit6-I6hvT4lP

**Polyal** · 04-02-2021, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FairmontGS

'500-600 people': Australian Open events called off after positive test

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/australi...aDit6-I6hvT4lP

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Am I the only person who chuckled about this?

Olympics will be in some strife if we cant contain a fraction of the numbers for tennis.

T3rminator · 04-02-2021, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Am I the only person who chuckled about this?

Olympics will be in some strife if we cant contain a fraction of the numbers for tennis.

Well if they can set up a bubble, as Vic has done, then it shouldn't be a problem. Currently there is no impact to the main event. Remember AO had to be pushed back this year to allow the quarantine and bubble to happen.

I did have a chuckle about the "no singing and no chanting" rule announced by the Olympic Committee today.

Citroënbender · 04-02-2021, 10:09 AM

An Aussie crowd would mock that right away.

“Whadda we want?”
- No chanting!

T3rminator · 04-02-2021, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

An Aussie crowd would mock that right away.

“Whadda we want?”
- No chanting!

Lucky for them aussies won't be allowed to leave the country to attend

Curious to know how many other countries are preventing their citizens and residents from leaving the country.

**russellw** · 04-02-2021, 12:33 PM

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT February 3rd, 2021.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

5 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 3.153%.

1 new case and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.083% and active cases 61.

The UK had 19,202 cases yesterday and 1,322 deaths.

Just over 121.5k new cases in the USA yesterday and 3,707 deaths sees CMR up to 1.694%. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
North America passes 31M cases.

Only:

Albania (1,007); and
UAE (3,977)

... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

The global adult CMR sits at 2.17% but that is likely understated given the inaccuracies in mortalities for countries like India and Russia.

Amongst the countries we watch in detail; Brazil (2.437%), the UK (2.824%), Belgium (2.968%), Australia (3.153%), Italy (3.476%) and Peru (3.586%) are all above the average while New Zealand (1.083%), India (1.434%), the USA (1.701%), Switzerland (1.732%) and Russia (1,914%) are all below the average although there are big question marks over the figures for both India and Russia.

It's widely reported that the real Russian figure is understated by about 130k, making the real figure close to 200k deaths rather than the 'official' 74k figure and this would make their adult CMR over 5%.

**FairmontGS** · 04-02-2021, 01:59 PM

People in NSW forced into isolation over Victoria outbreak

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Planes are being held up at Sydney Airport for screening and five people in NSW are being forced into isolation after they stayed at a Victorian hotel where the UK variant has spread between guests.

The five people were staying at Melbourne’s Park Royal Hotel where it is believed the virus jumped from a hotel room to a guest in the opposite room.

https://www.news.com.au/world/corona...808afe4e1f3235

CoupeKing · 04-02-2021, 07:18 PM

Keep wearing the mask.

Was at Woolies today and some Land Wale had a go at a random guy not wearing a mask - he didnt't respond, just kept moving.

Trolley full of processed food and will die from an obesity related ailement.

prydey · 04-02-2021, 07:29 PM

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where it is believed the virus jumped from a hotel room to a guest in the opposite room

Got to love the wording these so called journos use... the virus jumped.. really?

There are a lot of people that carry on like this is what happens. The virus is just going to jump out at them...

Citroënbender · 04-02-2021, 09:21 PM

Jumped? Pfft!

If I’m going to catch it, I expect that virus to dance like Sylvie Guillem, to sell me on the idea of being sick. Or possibly the virus and I will duet like Torvill and Dean.

wodahs · 04-02-2021, 09:33 PM

https://youtu.be/SwYN7mTi6HM
might as well jump

Jack91 · 04-02-2021, 09:38 PM

Lost for words.
Victorian government screws up once again.
Of all the things that got cancelled last year they let in a swarm of idiots from hot zones all over the world to play a stupid game noone cares about.
What is the point of quarantine if the people supposed to be isolated are still having contact with others?
Any normal person with half a brain could seemingly do a better job of running the state than 10,000 government employees can. Jesus christ...

Hope they make them wear masks while hitting the stupid ball back and forth.

b0son · 04-02-2021, 10:18 PM

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Lost for words.

They're doing it for the exposure ... oh the irony.