Petrol Price crisis......

[XR Martin]

Fuel was 30c/L cheaper in Albury than Melbourne the other day.
Not sure why the big difference?

[Mechan1k]

Originally Posted by XR Martin

Fuel was 30c/L cheaper in Albury than Melbourne the other day.
Not sure why the big difference?

People heading away for School holidays????

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

My love for single use plastic bags

This week is the first time i've ever had to buy garbage bags. total plastic saved = zero

I've noticed with the current squirming in the middle east that petrol prices had to jump due to 'supply uncertainty'. takes them 2-3 months to go down when prices for crude go down, but a few days when they go up?

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by XR Martin

Fuel was 30c/L cheaper in Albury than Melbourne the other day.
Not sure why the big difference?

Easy answer, people in Melb are getting shafted by greedy operators.

Like some around here. One servo near me has Mobil 98 at $1.67. Yet 3kms away there's Caltex 98 at $1.92.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by GasoLane

Easy answer, people in Melb are getting shafted by greedy operators.

Like some around here. One servo near me has Mobil 98 at $1.67. Yet 3kms away there's Caltex 98 at $1.92.

On my last Adelaide trip I was following a family in a Land Rover from the outskirts of Melbourne to Tailem Bend in SA where we both stopped at the BP to grab fuel.

It was 30c/L more expensive in Melbourne and surrounding areas compared to regional VIC and SA.

[mick taylor]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I'm guessing 98 is going to be 1.90+ soon around here since we get ****ed all the time anyway.

I paid 1.66 last week so made sure to top it up. Apparently Scomo is trying to make a deal to tap US reserves.

Jim Molan has been warning about this **** for a long time. What a ****en dumb country we are.

We once used our crappy thin oil to make Standard Petrol in West QLD.

Then we got into exporting our crap Australian oil on the world market, with the Fraser Gov. I think it was the correct thing to do at the time as our oil was no good for making engine oil or bitumen for roads. and our oil is high sulphur it's called sower thin oil, but there is other oils, sweet oil and thick oil and the best quality oil in the world is in the Arab world mainly and some in the USA and Russia.

I think that Australia went down the track of not refining fuel so as to reduce it's carbon percentage to make them look better and just let Asia make the fuel for us, it makes us look like we are saving the planet but I think Asia it's in the same world some how.

One may look to the share market of oil to see if they are ripping off anyone, I don't think that they are at all in fact, this showed that they were not the problem at all when I looked into it some years ago and what I found was we reduced the money spent on looking for new oil wells and that is stupid because down the track that will only add to increase of the price down the track.

So what to do, well if we got rid of 91 octane and had only 95 E10 and 98 E10 then the price of 95 would come down because more people are using it, it would not be as cheap as 91 but I think such would drive down 95 price some what because that's what happens when it's the majority fuel used.
if Australia only sold 10% of 91 octane I am sure that the price would be much the same as they sold 95 for.

I don't think that Germany has 91 Ron as all the cars imported here say to run on 98 octane. so it would be interesting to look at what there prices do reflect in that regard.

[Franco Cozzo]

The reason we end up with hobbled imports is that retards here insist on filling everything with 91 - also our high sulfur fuel.

We get the crippled Mazda Skyactiv engines for this reason, BMW also stuck with an older engine through the 00s in our market with their I6.

Honda as well we never got the good stuff because of fuel problems.

If you want an easy way to reduce co2 emissions then ban all forms of 91 and with a stroke of a pen change the Australian standards on sulfur content in our fuel.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

The reason we end up with hobbled imports is that retards here insist on filling everything with 91 - also our high sulfur fuel.

We get the crippled Mazda Skyactiv engines for this reason, BMW also stuck with an older engine through the 00s in our market with their I6.

Honda as well we never got the good stuff because of fuel problems.

If you want an easy way to reduce co2 emissions then ban all forms of 91 and with a stroke of a pen change the Australian standards on sulfur content in our fuel.

I thought the process of doing doing away 91 will happen eventually in the future but in the meantime there is still a lot vehicles that are quite happy guzzling the 91 juice.
Cheers.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Officemanager

I thought the process of doing doing away 91 will happen eventually in the future but in the meantime there is still a lot vehicles that are quite happy guzzling the 91 juice.
Cheers.

Eventually in the future? It's been a drama for the past 25 years, it's just getting worse and worse causing limited choice for Australian consumers.

[BradEL]

I saw it on the weekend over here for $2.33 per liter. Which converted to Australian Dollar is $2.16 AUD per litre. thats for 91..

[data_mine]

Originally Posted by Officemanager

still a lot vehicles that are quite happy guzzling the 91 juice.
Cheers.

Which will all quite happily drink 95 or 98.

Going up in quality won't hurt anything.

[Falcon SXR8]

Originally Posted by data_mine

Which will all quite happily drink 95 or 98.

Going up in quality won't hurt anything.

Except your wallet when you have to pay for a more expensive fuel your car doesnt need.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Falcon SXR8

Except your wallet when you have to pay for a more expensive fuel your car doesnt need.

Even peoples cars that need 95 minimum people keep filling them with 91 because they don't want to spend the extra $10 a tank for 98.

So we keep getting detuned cars in our market because of this exact reason.

I still remember 9 years ago working at a Honda dealership the new Accord Euros with K24 engines having dramas with our fuel, even on ones filled with 95 and 98, we're talking cars sub 100,000km coming back for warranty work.

With the prevalence of Euros on Melbourne roads now I bet they're still copping 91 because the salesman told them they can still use 91 in it because the engine computer will adjust for it or some crapola like that to sell 6 figure cars to people who complain about $10 extra on fuel per fill.

You can see it at my local servo the pump records how many litres its sold of all the fuels and 91 is always an order of magnitude higher than 95/98, 98 will be barely 6 figures and 91 will be well into 7 figures.

Easiest and cheapest score to improve c02 emissions nationally - ban 91 and high sulfur fuel first before we go chasing unicorns elsewhere.

[mick taylor]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Even peoples cars that need 95 minimum people keep filling them with 91 because they don't want to spend the extra $10 a tank for 98.

So we keep getting detuned cars in our market because of this exact reason.

I still remember 9 years ago working at a Honda dealership the new Accord Euros with K24 engines having dramas with our fuel, even on ones filled with 95 and 98, we're talking cars sub 100,000km coming back for warranty work.

With the prevalence of Euros on Melbourne roads now I bet they're still copping 91 because the salesman told them they can still use 91 in it because the engine computer will adjust for it or some crapola like that to sell 6 figure cars to people who complain about $10 extra on fuel per fill.

You can see it at my local servo the pump records how many litres its sold of all the fuels and 91 is always an order of magnitude higher than 95/98, 98 will be barely 6 figures and 91 will be well into 7 figures.

Easiest and cheapest score to improve c02 emissions nationally - ban 91 and high sulfur fuel first before we go chasing unicorns elsewhere.

Yep ! and our E10 is 91 and 94 octane now in SE QLD.
E10 94 is real good in my wife's 2011 Aurion they say they have 200kw but on 95 they say 235kw even the wife only runs E10 now, she will not use the 91 because she says it performs better and she knows bugger all about cars but she likes quick cars.

I went and looked into Germany on google earth at the fuel stations, they have Shell and I seen that they have 95 and 98 diesel and diesel V power.
There Euro was .15 more from 95 to 98 octane and with the std diesel to a V power diesel in this as well was .14 euros more.
So at the time of the google camera took the area the price was as so.
Diesel 1.32
and next was something that I could not understand was 1.42
95 1.42 called super
98 1.57 called V power
V power diesel 1.46 euro

So there you have it and a V power diesel fuel for all them new diesel cars that must need it I would think.

Looking else where in the world only third world nations had 91 octane, Norway, Poland, Russia, South Africa, Spain, USA, UK all have the lowest octane of 95 RON.

Ukraine had 92 and 95.

And from info I looked into of Germany it was E10 95 RON and E5 98 RON.

[arronm]

1.89 for E85.

[fordomatic]

Crazy times, I filled up with 98 in Sydney on Friday for $1.42 and now in Canberra 98 is pushing $1.86, such a rort but zero we can do about it now so just go with it.

[Mechan1k]

My usual servo I go to has 98 for $1.55 at the moment .... while it is about $1.90 everywhere else.

E10 is still $1.36 there as well ... where it is $1.71 all over the place.

[five 7]

Kiwi land is average $2.30 $2.40 you guys have it good..

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Falcon SXR8

Except your wallet when you have to pay for a more expensive fuel your car doesnt need.

95 supposedly only costs about 2-3 cents extra per litre to make. The fuel companies just tack extra on to generate higher profits.

The switch to 95 could be made easily if the government mandated that they had to stick to the actual cost, and not as an excuse to fleece motorists dry.

[Adamz Ghia]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

95 supposedly only costs about 2-3 cents extra per litre to make. The fuel companies just tack extra on to generate higher profits.

The switch to 95 could be made easily if the government mandated that they had to stick to the actual cost, and not as an excuse to fleece motorists dry.

In 2004 when I got my P’s, 98 was 10 cents a litre more than 91, now its 20 to 25 cents more depending where you go.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by arronm

1.89 for E85.

Makes you wonder as the 85% part is produced locally in Australia, only the 15% part should be effected by Middle Eastern shenanigans - how does it compare with 98 at the same servo?

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Makes you wonder as the 85% part is produced locally in Australia, only the 15% part should be effected by Middle Eastern shenanigans

Qld drought and Sugar farmers doing it tough?

[arronm]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Makes you wonder as the 85% part is produced locally in Australia, only the 15% part should be effected by Middle Eastern shenanigans - how does it compare with 98 at the same servo?

About 1.60. BUT I live in WA

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

In 2004 when I got my P’s, 98 was 10 cents a litre more than 91, now its 20 to 25 cents more depending where you go.

35c at an independent servo near me that's always cheaper than anywhere else in the vicinity - though, not cheaper for 98. :( Fool me once..

Just stepped out of my FGX XR8 that was in the 15's to a 1.8 that's reading 8.5 at the moment, not bad timing by the looks of it. At least I didn't get the spiel from the dealer saying 'nobody buys V8's anymore' on my trade.

[arronm]

When I got my licence fuel was 18cpl for super...

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by arronm

When I got my licence fuel was 18cpl for super...

Get paid $50 a week, fill your car 3 times, smoke a carton and sink **** at the pub and still have change left over

The only thing $50 buys you these days is a lap dance with no change

Its $75 in Adelaide!!!

[GASWAGON]

I'm pretty close to cruzing up by myself or with 'a crew' to the big white house in CanBerra and totally just walking in and grabbing Scott Morrison by his Big Fat expensive tie and twisting it so hard around his neck he fcuking chokes to death!!!!!

Then we all just go to SummerNats and Party LOL!!!

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by QUIK6WGN

I'm pretty close to cruzing up by myself or with 'a crew' to the big white house in CanBerra and totally just walking in and grabbing Scott Morrison by his Big Fat expensive tie and twisting it so hard around his neck he fcuking chokes to death!!!!!

Then we all just go to SummerNats and Party LOL!!!

That would be like a smoker of today blaming the high price of cigarettes solely on Morrison.

I'd love to see what the outcome would be if every smoker in Australia stopped right now and literally saved all the money they would have spent on smokes for the next 5 years.

You think petrol and alcohol are pricey now...lol.

Forgive me in advance, my grasp on finance/economics is primal.

[GASWAGON]

Why the ****ing hell has 98 gone up $1.90 in Melbourne over the last few days now just as get my 6T registered?????

What an absolute ****ing joke!!!!!!!!!!

[Lunch]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

I'd love to see what the outcome would be if every smoker in Australia stopped right now and literally saved all the money they would have spent on smokes for the next 5 years.

More speed cameras?