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25-03-2021, 07:47 PM | #9871 | |||
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25-03-2021, 08:09 PM | #9872 | ||||
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I have seen Pfizer is about $20/dose and AZ about $4/dose USD. I'm not sure how much the local licence bumps it up but you have to also consider the storage and logistic costs of Pfizer as well as the fact we have to import it too. Quote:
As for Brexit, it really depends on how much the EU export ban slows the UK roll out. I would have thought the majority of the doses would be within the UK. The logic for the ban is that Pfizer is supposedly meeting their commitments but AZ isn't. So certainly it could happen to Pfizer too but I think most will go for other vaccines simply because of the cost and logistics. Things may change when it is becomes apparent whether boosters are needed or not. It could get cheaper, who knows really |
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25-03-2021, 09:30 PM | #9873 | |||
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25-03-2021, 10:20 PM | #9874 | |||
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Then you still have the logistics and storage costs that don't go away just because it is made here. The AZ is a good option for the larger population. I think people are quite frankly getting hung up on the difference in efficacy and want the top though for the foreseeable future you won't have a choice anyway. Both are highly effective against symptomatic disease and 100% in preventing severe disease so far. It's worth remembering far more people have been vaccinated now than any trial. Last edited by MITCHAY; 25-03-2021 at 10:27 PM. |
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26-03-2021, 05:05 AM | #9875 | |||
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26-03-2021, 08:26 AM | #9876 | ||
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Here is a good video showing why the vaccines efficacy is a lot closer than the headline announcements would have you believe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3odScka55A
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26-03-2021, 11:42 AM | #9877 | |||
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Brisbane Zeke on the loose for 1 week
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26-03-2021, 12:08 PM | #9878 | ||
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT March 26th, 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 10 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 3.110%. 6 new cases and 0 deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.050% and active cases 71. The UK had a higher 6,220 cases yesterday and 63 deaths. Just over 69k new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,564 deaths sees CMR at 1.819%. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences. Other notable points: Global cases pass 126M, the last 1M in 1 day; Asia sets a new daily case high of 154,851; South America sets a new daily case high of 130,600; Europe moves above the 90th percentile for 10 day case average; Bermuda (41); Mongolia (285); Togo (359); Ivory Coast (767);Bosnia (1,965) - the previous high on 31/10/20 Bulgaria (4,851); Iraq (6,513); Philippines (8,773); Ukraine (16,669) - the previous high on 28/11/20; Poland (34,151); and Brazil (97,586) ... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. Armenia moves above the 90th percentile for their 10 day average while none drop below.
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26-03-2021, 02:05 PM | #9879 | |||
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26-03-2021, 03:18 PM | #9880 | ||
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Never ceases to amaze me how the Australian govt is blindly supportive of anything British.
The Russians had the Sputnik vaccine w-a-a-a-a-y before the AZ or Pfizer. All they did was poo hoo and comdemn them, after all how could the Russians possibly be smarter than the Poms or yanks? They have now almost admitted that it was always ....superior. Well how about that... https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55900622 |
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26-03-2021, 03:53 PM | #9881 | |||
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Not saying the Sputnik vaccine is inferior but peoples perceptions are another matter. |
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26-03-2021, 03:59 PM | #9882 | |||
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Certain countries are now talking about opening up borders only if particular vaccines has been taken. This is causing anxiety and fear for some poorer countries, and they are being forced to wait for vaccines that may never come instead of taking what is available, and probably just as effective. |
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26-03-2021, 04:03 PM | #9883 | |||
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"The vaccine was initially met with some controversy after being rolled out before the final trial data had been released." I can imagine your whinging if they'd bought a vaccine that hadn't passed all the trials.
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26-03-2021, 04:29 PM | #9884 | |||
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26-03-2021, 04:44 PM | #9885 | ||||
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Exactly and this would be most of the public perception of any product manufactured in Russia which they were renown to cut corners at times. |
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26-03-2021, 06:24 PM | #9886 | ||
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If the TGA gave approval I wouldn't see any issue but I somehow doubt how that could happen because obviously they need some data to inform that decision.
Russia or China deny publicly what is bleeding obvious all the time so trust is an issue you could say especially with state sponsored media For example Putin supposedly only just got it and off the record in contrast to other world leaders. That wouldn't inspire any confidence here |
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26-03-2021, 07:14 PM | #9887 | |||
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26-03-2021, 07:34 PM | #9888 | |||
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AZ was just as rushed but we will ignore that little detail cause a moderator might hit a button.. |
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26-03-2021, 07:43 PM | #9890 | |||
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The undeniable fact is that they had a vaccine way before any other country and it has proven to be perhaps the best. In the event of a biochemical war who would have the best outcome... Betcha Leesa would have it instead of AZ |
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26-03-2021, 07:56 PM | #9891 | ||
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26-03-2021, 07:59 PM | #9893 | ||
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26-03-2021, 08:03 PM | #9894 | ||
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Not a vaccine please check facts before replying
I will help you.....immofon https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...Yq4vSUTYcQZQ6u . Last edited by zilo; 26-03-2021 at 08:18 PM. Reason: Helping a mate |
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26-03-2021, 08:19 PM | #9895 | |||
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No, no, you mistake what I’m saying. I’m just stating that our generation were all inbred with a natural distrust of the Soviets and Russia. I’ve traveled from the far east to Moscow and St Petersburgh and you wouldn’t find a nicer bunch of people. |
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26-03-2021, 08:24 PM | #9896 | |||
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26-03-2021, 08:30 PM | #9897 | |||
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This article is over 2 months old but has so pretty good information. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55212787
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26-03-2021, 08:34 PM | #9898 | |||
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Please explain how AZ was 'rushed' into public release. Again, you're imagining words that aren't there, FairmontGS never mentioned any Vaccine, just that Russia couldn't be trusted. If you insist on arguing please argue about what was actually written and not like the popular quote..................."Don't answer the question that is asked. Answer the question that you wish had been asked"
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27-03-2021, 12:11 PM | #9899 | ||
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT March 27th, 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 10 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 3.109%. 3 new cases and 0 deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.049% and active cases 74. The UK had a lower 6,187 cases yesterday and 70 deaths. Just under 68k new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,273 deaths sees CMR at 1.819%. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences. Other notable points: Asia sets a new daily case high of 156,218; South America sets a new daily case high of 134,762; The World moves above the 90th percentile for 10 day case average; Timor-Leste (58); Mongolia (437); Curaçao (409); PNG (560) - 200 more than the previous high; North Macedonia (1,419) - the previous high on 18/11/20; Kenya (2,008); Ethiopia (2,097); Bulgaria (4,851); Philippines (9,838); Hungary (11,265); Ukraine (18,132); and Poland (35,143); ... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. Austria and Argentina move above the 90th percentile for their 10 day average while none drop below.
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27-03-2021, 01:18 PM | #9900 | |||
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Australian vaccination rollout risks falling behind rest of world
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