FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread - Page 334

AU1XLS · 05-10-2014, 09:25 PM

You guys can't take a hint if the last ever falcon is not going to be discussed than not much point leaving this open

Auslandau · 05-10-2014, 10:26 PM

I think everyone has had their fun???

Please ...... lets not mention Facebook sites, those who run Facebook sites or anything else that isn't related to the Last EVER Falcon Picture & Discussion Thread

After 334 pages I know that things get off track, a bit heated, difference of opinion but for the sake of what the Forums are about ........ lets just chat about the FGX and not mention the 'C' word?

That would be great thanks

Nikked · 05-10-2014, 10:38 PM

That sketch of the coupe looks so nice with the sill skirt, it really helps tie the revised front in. Is a shame that it didn't make the XR8...

boss engine · 05-10-2014, 10:41 PM

Let's discuss how the xr8 will compare to the SSV Redline. Obviously the interior in the new Falcon isn't really up to the standard of the new VF, cause after all it is an interior that was designed and developed in 2008, as opposed to the vf which came out in 2013. However, the engine, is if you ask me incredibly good for a car that isworth under 75k, let alone 52. What is everyone's thoughts? DO we think the new Falcon can compete with the VF?

Nikked · 05-10-2014, 10:43 PM

I think the XR8 blows the SS-v out of the water...

Smoke Pursuit · 05-10-2014, 10:46 PM

The question is will dealers price gouge XR8 like GTF and secondly will VF2 bring 317kw 6.2 standard in the redline

99AUXR · 05-10-2014, 10:50 PM

I don't think they can price gouge, the thing with GTF is dealers got their allocation, whereas with the XR8 people can buy from another dealer if one is being silly with pricing.

commodorenutt · 05-10-2014, 10:53 PM

The XR8 is certainly tempting for open-minded Holden V8 fans like myself. I have been thoroughly impressed with the G6 I've had for the last 3 years, and that's only a 6 (LPi).

Since I first drove a Miami GT-E in November 2010 (I still remember it so well - the day before Melbourne cup day, so FPV were empty apart from a few development guys) I've always said Prodrive/FPV had built a winner.

The one-eyed GMH fans will never consider it, but those with an open mind will. How many SS & SS-V Commodores do they sell per month? How many of those buyers could be swayed? If only ford marketing could get their *** into gear....

boss engine · 05-10-2014, 10:56 PM

From what I've heard, the 6.2 will make its way into the SS some point in the next couple of years, along with paddle shifters. However, the 6.2 still has nothing on the 5.0 boss lol.

Auslandau · 05-10-2014, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

That sketch of the coupe looks so nice with the sill skirt, it really helps tie the revised front in. Is a shame that it didn't make the XR8...

Was an impressive drawing. Both were sale as a pair for $900! Tempting to put up on the bar.

Just to put the pic up again as I had to take a snap of it ...... as I couldn't afford to buy it!

**Silver Ghia** · 05-10-2014, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by boss engine

Let's discuss how the xr8 will compare to the SSV Redline. Obviously the interior in the new Falcon isn't really up to the standard of the new VF, cause after all it is an interior that was designed and developed in 2008, as opposed to the vf which came out in 2013. However, the engine, is if you ask me incredibly good for a car that isworth under 75k, let alone 52. What is everyone's thoughts? DO we think the new Falcon can compete with the VF?

Everyone has different ideas and requirements. Some like the high level of equipment offered in the VF, while others will like the raw appeal of the XR8, made even more attractive by the price. Then there are those who would only buy Holden, and others who only buy Ford.

To me VF SSV's are seen all over the place. The 1200 XR8's will be much rarer beasts in time to come. And who will care about the interior looking like it is 6 years old now, in 5, 10 or 15 years time. Its a performance car with the 335 S/C V8 and Rspec upgraded suspension/wheels and that exhaust note, plus the completely different front and rear, which is the real appeal of the new XR8.

Bobman · 05-10-2014, 11:07 PM

It's a shame those wheels weren't chosen for the XR8 and the old design wheels the FG-X XR8 has go on the XR6/XR6T instead.

Chopped · 05-10-2014, 11:59 PM

Note on the concept drawings that the grill is sunk back more than it is on the finished product. Looks a lot better sunk in more imo.

FPV GTHO · 06-10-2014, 12:34 AM

Its quite common for concept sketches to look far better. Often the real thing cant match the proportions or details for various reasons.

XR Martin · 06-10-2014, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FPV GTHO

Its quite common for concept sketches to look far better. Often the real thing cant match the proportions or details for various reasons.

Like the AU

Chopped · 06-10-2014, 02:16 AM

^ Remember we are talking about the FGX, please

LooLoo18 · 06-10-2014, 07:11 AM

Not sure if this has been discussed but I noticed with the XR8 the engine bay and under the bonnet is grey would this be the same over all models ?

FGX335 · 06-10-2014, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by LooLoo18

Not sure if this has been discussed but I noticed with the XR8 the engine bay and under the bonnet is grey would this be the same over all models ?

Can't say I've seen anything other than the XR8's engine bay, but now that you mention it, the rocker covers are a similar grey to the grey highlights on the body (at least from the pictures I've seen). Nice touch if so.

Bonn · 06-10-2014, 08:22 AM

to save the trouble of looking back for it.
Looks the goods........

FGX335 · 06-10-2014, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonn

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to save the trouble of looking back for it.
Looks the goods........

I was a little concerned that the engine may not have looked as good as it did in the GT, but it does, complete with the BOSS 335 on the top. I was disappointed I didn't end up going for a GT, but this is essentially one in modern clothing. I seriously can't wait, hopefully I hear from the dealer today about the allocation, and I have one confirmed in the first batch.

Already have half of the guys in the office wanting to ride shotgun in it when I get it! And they are Holden and ricer drivers!

stevefreestyle · 06-10-2014, 08:34 AM

It would seem that the rumored Paddle Shifters are a non starter....unfortunately

Bonn · 06-10-2014, 08:39 AM

you get that with the 'sports pack' :-)

nstg8a · 06-10-2014, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

It would seem that the rumored Paddle Shifters are a non starter....unfortunately

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Pretty sure they were kiboshed by ford workers as soon as the rumours came out.

Paddle shifters are a bit of a **** thing in a conventional auto anyway aren't they?

Bonn · 06-10-2014, 08:44 AM

was in the states week before last, and had a hire Camaro RS (Mustangs at Avis didn't have SatNav) and i must say, the paddle-shifters are a novelty, really.
The RS was dog-dick RED too, so a fun (temporary) excursion to the 'dark-side' :-)

mcnews · 06-10-2014, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

Pretty sure they were kiboshed by ford workers as soon as the rumours came out.

Paddle shifters are a bit of a **** thing in a conventional auto anyway aren't they?

Agreed. paddle shifters for a clutchless manual DSG etc. by all means but for normal Autos like ours just absolute toss really

stevefreestyle · 06-10-2014, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonn

was in the states week before last, and had a hire Camaro RS (Mustangs at Avis didn't have SatNav) and i must say, the paddle-shifters are a novelty, really.
The RS was dog-dick RED too, so a fun (temporary) excursion to the 'dark-side' :-)

Depends on the technical advancement and quality of the Auto Box, and the speed & responsiveness of Gear-Changes. Don't forget, Ford use the awesome ultra quick ZF, GM does not.

mcnews · 06-10-2014, 08:59 AM

The ZF is not all that ultra quick at all, definitely not in standard form anyway. It is nothing remotely like a proper DSG box or something worthy of paddle shift

P6LTD351 · 06-10-2014, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

It would seem that the rumored Paddle Shifters are a non starter....unfortunately

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For a car like this? Buy a manual. Problem solved.

4.0i_SiX · 06-10-2014, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chopped

Note on the concept drawings that the grill is sunk back more than it is on the finished product. Looks a lot better sunk in more imo.

Yep I keep banging on about it, but they should have recessed the grill, looks 100% better

stevefreestyle · 06-10-2014, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mcnews

The ZF is not all that ultra quick at all, definitely not in standard form anyway. It is nothing remotely like a proper DSG box or something worthy of paddle shift

Speed of gear changes also depends on the tune of the g-box.

From ZF Website - Changes at under 100 milli seconds - try doing that in a manual !

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The 6HP shifts beneath the level of human perception in fewer than 100 ms – with impressively high tensile force in low speeds alone. The driver can individually determine the dynamics in the shift sequence by means of defined parameter sets.

http://www.zf.com/corporate/en/produ...smission.shtml