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06-10-2014, 07:37 PM | #10051 | ||
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Went to the local Ford dealer today and they pretty much confirmed the total of 1200 cars and most of the first allocation was sold and they would be lucky to get 1 car a month after that until they are all gone by late 2015,so anyone hanging out better get in quick.
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06-10-2014, 08:50 PM | #10052 | |||
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Im not sure adrenaline. Definately the engine alone doesnt give it an edge. The R spec suspension and Brembos all round just might I think. Reviewers always love the new kid on the block. Theres almost nothing btw the Redline and the HSV range (minus the GTS). XR8 might just slip in the middle |
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06-10-2014, 09:27 PM | #10053 | |||
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06-10-2014, 10:11 PM | #10054 | |||
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My dealer mentioned the 2000 max figure also.............not sure how this figure will be accommodated if demand is there? Maybe there's a manual only sticker pack in the pipeline later next year? Cheers Mick |
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06-10-2014, 10:17 PM | #10055 | ||
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Id say the number is a combination of how many can be built over a set time, and avaiablity of engines. My guess is that things like short assemblies and superchargers etc have a limited number.
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06-10-2014, 10:27 PM | #10056 | ||
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GTS has the LSA, not LS7... completely different motors! XR8 with R-Spec suspension will be quicker than any Holden, barring the GTS. Hence why, the 7.0 litre LS7, if it were hypothetically fitted to a VF SS, wouldn't be quicker than the new XR8.
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06-10-2014, 10:32 PM | #10057 | |||
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Conversely the BMW M3 comprehensively out handles the AMG C63 and nobody seems to care. The C63 has accelleration and noise on its side and people including the press, love it. Because provided the thing handles well and predictably and doesn't provide old school tank slappers 99% of people will never get anywhere near the handling limits. Back in the real world, with mere mortal machines at a 1/3 of the price the same will apply.
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06-10-2014, 10:34 PM | #10058 | ||
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I think people will be comparing the turbo against the xr8 more than the Holden to the ford.....
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06-10-2014, 10:38 PM | #10059 | ||
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Not only on what stock pile of trans, parts etc they have, it will come down to how many they can physically build.
Minimal staff with a large company winding down over the next 24 months ...... It is not a case of 24 months flat knackered, then on the Friday, turn the lights off and walk away! A hell of a lot of planning to being able to lock the doors after so long, with 2 huge sites that need to be wound down over a period of time. While the FGX will be sold for near exactly 24 months, the actual manufacture will wind down before this. Possibly full production of the FGX will be only around 18 months. They will and have budgeted for a certain amount and based on how many Falcons have been sold prior, this budget isn't huge by any stretch. Of course there will be an influx for the first 6 months or so ........ but no doubt there will be the inevitable drop off which would also be accounted for. 1200 autos for the XR8, I think the ratio to manuals will be higher anyway as shown by the GT-F. The ratio surprised Ford and the amount of manuals was higher than all other GT;s prior. Long story short. Want an XR8? Get in early. If the entire range sells only reasonably well, the delays will be quite significant .... and that goes for all models as well. Capacity is not large as it once was as everyone knows
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06-10-2014, 11:01 PM | #10060 | ||
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I am not so sure as the Turbo has stagnated whereas the XR8 has increased in power, or at least got the best motor. XR6 270 v XR8 335 minimum. XR6 is also 270 at the fly with tuners getting 230/50 atw before tune but the 335 was at the wheels as seen recently in other threads.
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07-10-2014, 01:56 AM | #10061 | |||||
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07-10-2014, 06:49 AM | #10062 | ||
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Can anyone tell me what the maximum torque rating is for these transmissions?
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07-10-2014, 06:52 AM | #10063 | |||
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XR8 Auto $49,718
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07-10-2014, 07:42 AM | #10064 | ||||
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07-10-2014, 07:57 AM | #10065 | ||
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I don't know where you got that figure from, the RRP - not including ORC is:
Falcon XR8 5.0L (manual) $52,490* Falcon XR8 5.0L (auto) $54,690* The Drive away price in NSW with the ZF Auto is $59,422 (including ORC) http://www.caradvice.com.au/311627/f...mw1KKu9Hz6I.99 http://www.ford.com.au/research/buil...112464215/path Last edited by stevefreestyle; 07-10-2014 at 08:21 AM. |
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07-10-2014, 08:23 AM | #10066 | |||
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07-10-2014, 10:05 AM | #10068 | ||
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Having owned a FG GT, and now a HSV R8SV Tourer (take it easy, I wanted a wagon (but the FG interior is old!)), for me that the ZF in the FG is fantastic - compared to the auto in the VF. I really miss that ZF.
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07-10-2014, 10:10 AM | #10069 | ||
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Sooo much attention on the rumble of the XR8, with such a performance/luxury bargain in that damn fine looking G6ET. Arguably, IMHO, the best looking variation in the camp Given the opportunity it'll be eating many of the remaining auto trans on it's own. Lower it a tad, not much else, it'll look brilliant on the road. And while many sneeze at numbers, the 270 is still a rapid form of transport, especially with a little tickle.
Maybe I'm just getting old
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07-10-2014, 10:23 AM | #10070 | ||
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Ok, off to the dealership this morn. As a dealer myself im going to speak to the sales manager and try to get to get some answers on price and how many will be made. hope for their sake they don't try to bump up the price!
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07-10-2014, 10:28 AM | #10071 | |||
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07-10-2014, 10:32 AM | #10072 | ||
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Yeah if I were to do it all over again it would have to be g6et for sure.
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07-10-2014, 11:03 AM | #10073 | ||
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Next time I want a manual so for me it would be XR8 for sure, plus I could never put up with the non slippery diff in G6ET and the lesser brakes so would need to do some work on the G6ET straight away in order to be happy with it. Actually if the auto went bang in my GT-E out of warranty I could just put a manual in that and be done with it!
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07-10-2014, 11:22 AM | #10074 | ||
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Interesting - wonder what that would co$t??
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07-10-2014, 11:31 AM | #10075 | ||
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Trev just so you know I am pretty sure you can get a pin to put onto the auto pedal box so you dont need to change that out...mal wood
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07-10-2014, 11:32 AM | #10076 | |||
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Having said that, I'm making a stop in at the local dealer to ask about auto XR8/Emperor/Auto pricing... |
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07-10-2014, 01:09 PM | #10077 | ||
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Does anybody know if there is any weight reduction/increase for the FG X range over their respective predecessors? Perhaps use the R-Spec as the XR8 equivalent.
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07-10-2014, 01:12 PM | #10078 | ||
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I recall seeing that the RSPEC was 1840, but I think the XR is 1861. All of the extra goodies I assume? Wouldn't have thought it would add that much.
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07-10-2014, 01:15 PM | #10079 | ||
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Ok, so I'm now told that the system has come back up and all but the XR8 are in there. XR should be at the end of this week.
Can anyone tell me that they have ordered and locked in, with a contract that states XR8 (and not FPV GS, etc), an XR8 in their trans and colour choice, for the first allocation? I hear people are 'ordering' them, but I want to confirm properly. I really want the first allocation, and want to make sure I won't be missing out.
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FG X XR8 in Smoke. Smokin the tyres, that is! XR8 logo pic taken at Avalon Airport, Falcon Fanatic filming 17th October 2014 |
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07-10-2014, 01:57 PM | #10080 | |||
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May be yours needs some new oil and a service ? Low battery voltage can also cause trans issues. Paddles on the new XR8 should have been a no brainer and they should have written the throttle blip on downshift for rev matching into the software as well, would have been a great differentiator in the driving experience between outgoing FG2 and FGX. |
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