FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread - Page 337

V8 6I · 07-10-2014, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FGX335

Ok, so I'm now told that the system has come back up and all but the XR8 are in there. XR should be at the end of this week.

Can anyone tell me that they have ordered and locked in, with a contract that states XR8 (and not FPV GS, etc), an XR8 in their trans and colour choice, for the first allocation? I hear people are 'ordering' them, but I want to confirm properly.

I really want the first allocation, and want to make sure I won't be missing out.

They can temporarily put in the code for the xr6 with the condition they will change it, and when they get the xr8 code they rewrite the purchase order.Hope that helps.

smiddy · 07-10-2014, 02:06 PM

Hi does anyone no if the digital gauges on the centre screen like the gtf will be in the xr8,or maybe not because its a diff system sync 2 cheers?

futura · 07-10-2014, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by smiddy

Hi does anyone no if the digital gauges on the centre screen like the gtf will be in the xr8,or maybe not because its a diff system sync 2 cheers?

So we want a XR8 with a GT 335kw engine with rspec supspension, wider rear rims AND digital gauges for $52,490.00 plus onroad costs

mcnews · 07-10-2014, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluey-GT

Cant say the changes on my ZF auto GT are "slow" - almost instant really. As soon as you tap the lever in manual mode , it changes almost instantly up and down the gears. No ZF tune - standard, but has been serviced at 50,000 klm and will be done again as soon as it reaches 100k

May be yours needs some new oil and a service ? Low battery voltage can also cause trans issues.

Paddles on the new XR8 should have been a no brainer and they should have written the throttle blip on downshift for rev matching into the software as well, would have been a great differentiator in the driving experience between outgoing FG2 and FGX.

Have had multiple ZFs mate in BF F6, FG F6, FG II GT-E and have driven quite a few other recent ZF GT etc. and none of them respond remotely instantly to the shifter. The changes themselves are quick enough, but the response to the lever is slow, as computer works out whether to say no or yes etc. Have had old school manual valve bodied shift kitted autos and that is instant response to shifter, the ZF is not.

mcnews · 07-10-2014, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by futura

So we want a XR8 with a GT 335kw engine with rspec supspension, wider rear rims AND digital gauges for $52,990.00

The digital readouts on the screen cost nothing all it is code already written so no reason not to unless they deliberately want to leave it special only to the GT-F. You can read most of the same things on your phone using an app and the OBD port on any modern car anyway.

FGX335 · 07-10-2014, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mcnews

Have had multiple ZFs mate in BF F6, FG F6, FG II GT-E and have driven quite a few other recent ZF GT etc. and none of them respond remotely instantly to the shifter. The changes themselves are quick enough, but the response to the lever is slow, as computer works out whether to say no or yes etc. Have had old school manual valve bodied shift kitted autos and that is instant response to shifter, the ZF is not.

Hmmm, the ZF in my BF MkII Ghia responds immediately. The old 4 speed on the other hand...

Bossxr8 · 07-10-2014, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mcnews

The digital readouts on the screen cost nothing all it is code already written so no reason not to unless they deliberately want to leave it special only to the GT-F. You can read most of the same things on your phone using an app and the OBD port on any modern car anyway.

The sync2 operating system is totally new so it would require it being re-done.

You can use your own photos as a background for the screen too. Just upload the pics via usb or bluetooth. Some guys would do it as a prank and upload funny photos of the guy who was going to drive it next

DanielXR8 · 07-10-2014, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by futura

So we want a XR8 with a GT 335kw engine with rspec supspension, wider rear rims AND digital gauges for $52,490.00 plus onroad costs

Seemed a simple question to me.

mcnews · 07-10-2014, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FGX335

Hmmm, the ZF in my BF MkII Ghia responds immediately. The old 4 speed on the other hand...

There is your version of immediately, and my version of immediately. Obviously they differ quite a bit.

Whitey-AMG · 07-10-2014, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mcnews

There is your version of immediately, and my version of immediately. Obviously they differ quite a bit.

If you think the ZF is "slow" then driving the manual must be like waiting for good wine to age between changes....

SensationFG8 · 07-10-2014, 04:01 PM

My zf changes in well under a second. Wonder if there is any good way to actually time it

FGX335 · 07-10-2014, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mcnews

There is your version of immediately, and my version of immediately. Obviously they differ quite a bit.

Not sure just how quick you want it to change. I make the change, the car just does it, and unless you are on a track doing lap after lap, I can't see it being worth mentioning.

I'm OCD, and it doesn't bother me - and normally ALL that stuff bothers me.

futura · 07-10-2014, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mcnews

The digital readouts on the screen cost nothing all it is code already written so no reason not to unless they deliberately want to leave it special only to the GT-F. You can read most of the same things on your phone using an app and the OBD port on any modern car anyway.

I really cant see Ford adding Digital readouts for the XR8. I hope it remains a GTF feature.

Phyber · 07-10-2014, 04:05 PM

I know what mcnews is saying, when I physically move the shifter in my BFII, the actual gear change takes effect maybe 0.5 seconds later.

There is actually enough time to cancel out a change. I've had to do this when letting a friend drive it hard. He hit it forwards (gear down) as he was accelerating and high in revs instead of towards the rear of the car (gear up). I slapped it backwards immediately and it stayed in the original gear. Have repeated that many times myself when needing to cancel a change down.

Once the box physically begins to shift it's over very fast though.

futura · 07-10-2014, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DanielXR8

Seemed a simple question to me.

Lets all not be greedy now..

Ford has thrown everything at the New Xr8.

Road Games · 07-10-2014, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mcnews

There is your version of immediately, and my version of immediately. Obviously they differ quite a bit.

Offtopic BUT remember Trev the trans ecu logs points from 0 - 200 to map the immediate driving style..

An hour of ME driving with a ZF and it's characteristics have a much quicker response time to everything i ask of it, than my missus driving it HER way 20% throttle and soooo on for an hour ...

LooLoo18 · 07-10-2014, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

Yeah if I were to do it all over again it would have to be g6et for sure.

I also think the rear will look best on the G6E

FGX-351 · 07-10-2014, 05:09 PM

Really excited just received an email from Ford saying I've been chosen as a Falcon Fanatic in the competition to see the car up close and meet Frosty!

FGX-302 · 07-10-2014, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluey-GT

If you think the ZF is "slow" then driving the manual must be like waiting for good wine to age between changes....

I'll take driving a manual over steering an auto an auto anyday. I remember when if u couldn't drive a manual hard u needed to spend $1000's on your factory auto. U auto drivers are too spoilt these days lol. ZF is very impressive when u look back at the 4 spds it replaced yet theres still nothing quite like having a clutch a stick and your mind to control gear shifts for me.

**DFB FGXR6** · 07-10-2014, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by smiddy

Hi does anyone no if the digital gauges on the centre screen like the gtf will be in the xr8,or maybe not because its a diff system sync 2 cheers?

I would like to know as well because my dealer said the XR8 would have the digital dials. I haven't seen anything mentioned in the release information though.

Smoke Pursuit · 07-10-2014, 05:38 PM

XR8 wont have the digital dials.

FGX-302 · 07-10-2014, 05:43 PM

Brisbane dealers saying pricing won't be released till the 18th.. Can anyone confirm this??

FGX335 · 07-10-2014, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FGX-351

Really excited just received an email from Ford saying I've been chosen as a Falcon Fanatic in the competition to see the car up close and meet Frosty!

How are you getting down there? I'm looking at pricing and the flights are not cheap!

elfinke · 07-10-2014, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FGX S/C V8

Brisbane dealers saying pricing won't be released till the 18th.. Can anyone confirm this??

I can only confirm this insofar as I have read that on this very forum once or twice today, probably in that other thread.

**DFB FGXR6** · 07-10-2014, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

XR8 wont have the digital dials.

Thanks for that, I didn't think so, salesman must have been confused it with Sync

FGX-351 · 07-10-2014, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FGX335

How are you getting down there? I'm looking at pricing and the flights are not cheap!

I'm considering flying down for the day but I'm considering driving too depending on whether or not I replace my clutch in time.

Tbm1121 · 07-10-2014, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluey-GT

If you think the ZF is "slow" then driving the manual must be like waiting for good wine to age between changes....

Different people have different opinions, in my opinion the new vw golf r dsg is the fastest shifting car I have driven, about 5 times faster than the zf in a mk2 xr6t, but it is not slow either, just different, one is a dsg the other is a proper auto. There is pros and cons of both,

byamin · 07-10-2014, 06:37 PM

http://www.caradvice.com.au/312465/2...economy-gains/

mcnews · 07-10-2014, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by XR6menace

Offtopic BUT remember Trev the trans ecu logs points from 0 - 200 to map the immediate driving style..

An hour of ME driving with a ZF and it's characteristics have a much quicker response time to everything i ask of it, than my missus driving it HER way 20% throttle and soooo on for an hour ...

Yep know all this, and it is very clever indeed in the way it adapts. Have done track stuff in previous cars with by the end of the day it left in performance mode and it was down changing hard enough to chirp the rears under maximum braking.

**PepeLePew** · 07-10-2014, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by byamin

http://www.caradvice.com.au/312465/2...economy-gains/

The six cyl N/A versions of both Falcon and Terri are seriously economical for a big torquey engine.