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29-08-2012, 08:38 PM | #991 | |||
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Thats my 3rd option poppa. obtain some more quotes and try for a better price. Zen Energy want to put 28 panels up. This is becuase the panels are only 190kw so It will cost more there I suspect. Because they all do different brans, its hard to get 2 quotes for the same gear. You cant just ask for a quote on system "x" because some will have system "y" and others a mix of "x" and "y". So one needs to sift their way through it all. At this stage I think I will be dropping the idea of a battery setup later on. That will reduce the price of the Inverter. Thanks for your reply poppa
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30-08-2012, 10:35 AM | #992 | ||
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all we can do is to obtain separate quotes for similar systems
similar in output and quality there are many places selling solar now
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30-08-2012, 11:18 AM | #993 | |||
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Im comparing energy matters, AGL and origin at this point as they all seem to provide a quality system and should be around the next 25yrs compared to others out there in Sydney NSW
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30-08-2012, 12:59 PM | #994 | ||
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I'm not sure how far you have gone with getting quotes but this is not a bad spot
http://www.solarquotes.com.au this is a spot for a fair bit of knowledge http://forums.whirlpool.net.au simply type in solar installers for your area and start grabbing some quotes trouble is that major companies can fold overnight so I really don't know what the outcome will be as far as the warranty is concerned I've seen some big one's bight the dust since I started looking
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30-08-2012, 05:22 PM | #995 | ||
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If you have three phase, then the import/export meter costs more. I reckon the $650 mark sounds about right from what I was told when I enquired. Luckily I only have single phase so it's going to be the $350 mark for me.
That installation is also charged by ETSA and paid for through your energy provider (E.g. Origin, AGL, etc.) ETSA add that cost on to your next electricity bill after it's installed. It's not an upfront cost to get the solar panels put on the roof.
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30-08-2012, 05:37 PM | #996 | ||
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mine was billed direct through the mail from ETSA
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30-08-2012, 08:58 PM | #997 | ||
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Well, that was what I was told by the installer. I'll find out soon I guess as the meter goes in next week.
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31-08-2012, 09:09 AM | #998 | ||
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OK, has anyone done a second solar install in NSW since June 30 ?
I am trying to find what prices are avail, but most say it is the same as before, and 2-3000 more expensive per KW than the advertised prices. I was expecting that the advertised price for an initial install would be same as for a second install (assuming I do not have extra capacity on my Inverter). |
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31-08-2012, 10:16 AM | #999 | |||
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I will never forget, the arrogant ETSA techy told me, in no uncertain terms that "the bill will be in the mail" and to "make sure you pay it on time" the billing may have changed now but my understanding is that the meter has nothing to do with your retailer, all substations, lines, meters and poles belong to ETSA
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31-08-2012, 10:17 AM | #1000 | |||
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31-08-2012, 11:24 AM | #1001 | |||
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Not sure about origin or energy matter as yet!!!
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31-08-2012, 11:30 AM | #1002 | ||
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I would think you would be safe with either of those companies provided the prices were competitive
if, however, they were to sell off the solar "arm" of their network or perhaps the whole company were to be sold off then would the warranty still be in effect this happens in corporations all the time and can happen overnight....... I think solar has a massive future, but, and it is a massive but, if bluegen becomes a little bit cheaper we may see a mass exodus in solar and thus a mass exodus in solar retail and warranties within these companies however, as i say, I would be more than happy purchasing a system off them if the price is competitive
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31-08-2012, 03:36 PM | #1003 | |||
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31-08-2012, 03:58 PM | #1004 | |||
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in fact if I was to extend my output by installing another 10 kilowatts it would cost me some $10,299 my initial system of 3.5 kilowatt cost $13,500 not counting electrical upgrades this price is with the new prices and without REC's I know because I have spoken to a couple of mobs about this and if it wasn't for the fact of me losing my FIT I would upgrade........taking my input to 13.5 kilowatts I have found that the prices have dropped so far as to disregard the discount of REC'S and if I mentioned that I have already received my REC'S the price stays the same
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02-09-2012, 09:54 AM | #1005 | ||
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ahh first day of spring yesterday nice and sunny here on beautiful yorke peninsular 4kw system 16x 250w panels 5kw inverter 22.10kwh's production daily use average 15kwh's let the good times roll.gotta love it when a plan comes together!!
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02-09-2012, 10:46 AM | #1006 | ||
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yep! $4.80 ahead after heavy heater use from the night before......
ah! spring, when an old mans thoughts turn to .....ummmmm!!! solar output!!!! what have we become??????
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03-09-2012, 09:20 AM | #1007 | ||
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panels going on as i type. unfortunately, the reality of the situation is a little different to the theory. the sales guy just looks up google maps and nearmaps and measures your available roof space, and then determines how many panels will fit, and where.
i was told 20 panels would all fit on the north face, but the bad news is, they wont. well they would, but there would be bad shadowing for most of the day from my a/c unit, so the installer has recommended 9 of them go on the west face. even though its not as efficient, it is still more efficient than a shaded north face. |
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03-09-2012, 01:58 PM | #1008 | ||
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i would be on the phone demanding discount for their failure to properly access the site you are now paying for a system that wont deliver what they promised
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03-09-2012, 02:16 PM | #1009 | |||
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the panels are connected in a 'string' and they are only as good as the worst performing panel, so if 1 panel gets shaded, it drags down the whole string. its all good to me. after all up and running it was pumping out up to 3.4kw (3.8system) so even with 9 on the west face, it still ok. the installers turned it off until the smart meter is installed. apparently they used to just leave them on but there were some complaints about odd meter readings from some customers so now they are told to turn them off. (the installer did whisper that i could turn it back on once he goes). i also learned that inverters work best when they are maxed out, so not sure why True Value Solar do these 'upgradeable' systems. i was unaware of that until today and was told that even though that is the case, its not a massive difference. time will tell i guess. anyways, for those playing along at home i have used True Value Solar. 5kw Growatt inverter 20x190watt sunowe panels. 5yr warranty on inverter 25yr warranty on panels, performing at 90% for 12yrs and 80% after 25. total cost $6494. yes, there is some negative feedback about this mob but i have zero complaints so far. will keep you updated. |
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03-09-2012, 03:11 PM | #1010 | ||
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you did the right thing.....they will mount them as per instructions but it is far better to get the max out of the panel by avoiding shading
just be careful about firing up the system on a standard meter......I've heard stories of the input being calculated as a "use" and thereby obtaining larger bill some meters will run backwards.......observation would be the key
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03-09-2012, 03:41 PM | #1011 | |||
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i took note of the reading anyway just to make sure it doesn't do silly buggers on me. |
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03-09-2012, 04:11 PM | #1012 | ||
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yep......24 hours should be enough to tell if it has turned back
you would be aware of how much your average use has been up to now so, with a comparison, you could easily tell good luck with the system.......keep us up to date
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03-09-2012, 05:34 PM | #1013 | |||
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Bumgar - nobody in the same place as me then
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03-09-2012, 08:48 PM | #1014 | ||
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Just got an email from EM to let me know that my panels are being upgraded as compensation for the delay of installation. Pretty good going as I wont be looking for the installation until probably Christmas time anyway, so dont mind waiting.
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04-09-2012, 09:08 AM | #1015 | |||
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04-09-2012, 09:17 AM | #1016 | ||
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So in vic its not worth making any more power than you use. 6 cents is the back to the grid price here now. That wont even cover the cost of the ~$1 a day fixed service cost of electricity if you have a big system in summer!
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04-09-2012, 09:40 AM | #1017 | |||
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all these industries are based on supply v demand, and with rebates being reduced and feed in tariff's reduced or disappearing, the demand will take a sharp turn south. |
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04-09-2012, 10:09 AM | #1018 | |||
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the other way to do it is to go "off grid"......a battery system with generator backup had a quote for mine.......roughly $12,000......these mongrels keep upping the price and I'll tell them where to shove their lines greed is not good
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04-09-2012, 10:13 AM | #1019 | ||
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i believe thats only available to rural areas isn't it?
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04-09-2012, 10:24 AM | #1020 | |||
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he's a good bloke and knows his stuff......but as I say.....only thinking about it at this stage my wish is for bluegen but they are too damn dear as yet
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