FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread

[galaxy xr8]

Originally Posted by Patty

Why does everyone think that beating a car in a straight line means it's a better car?? I reckon the comparo between an SSV redline and the XR8 335 will be quite close. Of course the XR8 will outpace the SS and even base HSV's in a straight line, but what about dynamics, tech, interior, everyday driveability? I can already see what the comparo's will say... XR8 has the grunt but lacks the refinement. I mean the interior is staying nearly EXACTLY the same. It will certainly be interesting to see what the fence sitters will say is the better car. If you were in the market right now for a $50,000 rwd performance car that can fit the fam it's a super tough choice. I personally would love to sit in the Holden's interior all day and it also drive's so well, but the XR8 would def have the fun factor, the noise, the acceleration. It would be a super tough choice for those who aren't particularly tied to a certain brand of car....

Probably because for year’s on end it’s always been that the Falcon has been the all round driving package but lacked the speed in a straight line compared to the Commodore and that is what the magazines have published, the Tickford branded car’s were re-known for their overall package but yet when compared to the opposition the mags preferred the overall straight line drag speed.

Now it has turned full circle and yet we still hear and read how great the Commodore is as an overall package and this in todays standards makes it the winner.....but not back then.

[asagaai]

Originally Posted by galaxy xr8

Probably because for year’s on end it’s always been that the Falcon has been the all round driving package but lacked the speed in a straight line compared to the Commodore and that is what the magazines have published, the Tickford branded car’s were re-known for their overall package but yet when compared to the opposition the mags preferred the overall straight line drag speed.

Now it has turned full circle and yet we still hear and read how great the Commodore is as an overall package and this in todays standards makes it the winner.....but not back then.

You know- who gives a rats **** what some McDonald stuffed pompous conflicted journo thinks.

Way I look at it, when my brother was looking to buy a fast rear drive sedan as a sports car to have some fun with from time to time, and he drove an M3, a Clubsport, an AMG C45, and then a AMG C63, I just said- forget about this spec and this fuel consump, and this and this- simply-what gives you the biggest grin from ear to ear after a 5 minute blast- he immediately went AMG C63 without any further deliberation.

Me- I love the high tech "teutonic" multi valve 4 overhead cam forced blown sound, do not like that muddy woofy veiled holden pushrod 2 valve per cylinder v8 sound-so worrying about what some journo thinks is as relevant to me as tits on a bull- I just want that Miami ferral high tech sound mated to a manual with good brakes and a good suspension and all will be good with my smile....

[Dissgrace]

Originally Posted by Patty

Why does everyone think that beating a car in a straight line means it's a better car?? I reckon the comparo between an SSV redline and the XR8 335 will be quite close. Of course the XR8 will outpace the SS and even base HSV's in a straight line, but what about dynamics, tech, interior, everyday driveability? I can already see what the comparo's will say... XR8 has the grunt but lacks the refinement. I mean the interior is staying nearly EXACTLY the same. It will certainly be interesting to see what the fence sitters will say is the better car. If you were in the market right now for a $50,000 rwd performance car that can fit the fam it's a super tough choice. I personally would love to sit in the Holden's interior all day and it also drive's so well, but the XR8 would def have the fun factor, the noise, the acceleration. It would be a super tough choice for those who aren't particularly tied to a certain brand of car....

I was always a holden man up until the VE/FG at which point I jumped ship to XR8. I almost went back based on the interior of the SSV. Once I got wind of the S/C Miami I stayed put and put my money on the FGX. At the end of the day I wanted grunt and sound over interior, but I think the FG/FGX interior is still a pretty nice place to sit.

[Dave R]

Big changes to the Barra 195 for FGX, it's now a V6 and an I6 at the same time.

[Road_Warrior]

OOPS

Looks like official Ford gear too. Proofing fail.

[Dave R]

FGX brochure.

[Polyal]

And the hits keep on coming...lol...typo duress but come ooooooonnnnnnn.

[furiousgibbon]

Originally Posted by furiousgibbon

anyone keen to upgrade their FG with the new 19" wheels from the XR8, I checked pricing and availability today. They're in the system, the front wheels (19x8) are around $525 each, the rears (19x9) were around $575 each. Availability is... not yet. I was told that once the car is released (apparently first models arriving mid November?) they will be able to update me.

got a call today, wheels are able to be ordered. 2 week delivery time. Now I just need to decide whether to order rears and paint them to match my fronts, or order all 4.... can't wait for 275 street tyres, I got a taste of 275 semi slicks the other night and it was awesome!

[fordfreak]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

Big changes to the Barra 195 for FGX, it's now a V6 and an I6 at the same time.

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disgraceful. Makes u wonder if these guys have any idea!

[MAD]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

Big changes to the Barra 195 for FGX, it's now a V6 and an I6 at the same time.

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No wonder they can't sell them. They don't even know what they have.

Next they'll call it a coupe and market it in the 4wd segment.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by fordfreak

disgraceful. Makes u wonder if these guys have any idea!

Outsource to India ?

Co-op student ?

Marketing fail again still

[Bonn]

Tata's Quality Control is better than that

[superfly]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

Big changes to the Barra 195 for FGX, it's now a V6 and an I6 at the same time.

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I hope you didn't steal this pic from the Support the 2014 Ford Falcon page!!

He posted the same pic a few hours before your post. But he stole my pic so you can steal his regardless.

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by superfly

I hope you didn't steal this pic from the Support the 2014 Ford Falcon page!!

He posted the same pic a few hours before your post. But he stole my pic so you can steal his regardless.

Well you can breathe a sigh of relief, I saw it on Powered By Ford.

[Fab]

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[mik]

I saw an XR50 falcon parked near home today, a blue one, as I was coming towards it at first glance I thought it might be a new Mondeo, then I realized it was a Falcon, the pics don't do it justice, it looks nice .

[Kayos]

Talk about photo bombing.... move your head minion...

[jaybo34]

Well for me an xr8 would be awesome. I love the look of the fgx and the interior looks fine to me. Can't afford one till 2016 though soo I'll be pretty lucky to get one by the sound of things.

Oh and no other brand even registers in my brain. No other brand makes my heart race at the sight . **** hyundi.

[elfinke]

Originally Posted by Kayos

Talk about photo bombing.... move your head minion...

[GSPSI]

Saw this on sunday.
No badges and a nice dent in the boot.

[bigwil]

Originally Posted by Fab

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Which car dealer is that? Still yet to see one.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Dealers should be getting stock anyday now.

[2242100]

Originally Posted by Chopped

The XR8 will destroy it, it will also destroy all of the HSVs bar the GTS (which it will give a fright) in any straight line comparos.

It's hardly a secret that these things are more like 375+kw at the flywheel.

Not sure on corners or lap times though but I think it will be close.

I think you're absolutely right about the 375 kW+ on the XR8, but so far I've only seen one published 335 kW S/C road test where the times (in my view) have reflected a true 375 kW+ performance.
That was the WHEELS test where I believe Jesse Taylor (now editor of EVO AUSTRALIA) got an RSpec down the 400 metre strip in 12.6 seconds with a 0-100 kmh time of 4.5 seconds. Other test times I've seen have been quite a bit slower.

The temporary overboost feature makes the engine very potent in everyday driving, but I think that if it's worked too hard (without cool down runs) before nailing a good launch, then the overboost (or very little of it) will be available to post a good time.
If this happens in the upcoming tests then I'm thinking that we may not see what the XR8 can really achieve and I believe it's similar with the standard Turbo.

In the October 2014 issue of MOTOR Magazine an XR6 Turbo Auto was tested and they made the following comments about it's speed:-

"the XR6T feels like a rocket on wheels"
and
"Holy crap it's fast"

So I'm thinking they must have been extremely impressed by it's straight line performance, but to me the published acceleration data for the car doesn't reflect this level of performance.
I say that because in cool 16 degree air at Heathcote the published data shows the 400 metre end speed to be 172.35 kmh and the time from 70 - 180 kmh (where wheelspin wouldn't be an issue) works out to 11.50 seconds.
By contrast my own standard and untuned FG XR6T Auto managed a considerable 7kmh+ higher 400 metre end speed at WSID in 18-19 degree air. Also the best time from 70 to 180 kmh was 9.81 seconds (with dragstrip timeslips of 12.731 and 12.509 seconds). So I've got no doubt that my car's overboost function was working, but I'm thinking that probably wouldn't have been the case with the MOTOR test car.

I'll be interested to see future test times of both XR8's and Turbo's and hope to see some good numbers, but I'm not expecting too much.

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by Fab

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Jesus that thing looks like a bad photo shop

Such a shame for the most iconic car of my lifetime to go out like that :(

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by Fab

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That interior, just doesn't do the exterior any justice. It looks so dated, something from early 00's.

[Adamz Ghia]

Originally Posted by Wretched

That interior, just doesn't do the exterior any justice. It looks so dated, something from early 00's.

That's an early 00 interior. How does the FGX compare...?

[Bossxr8]

Looks identical. Wait, what?

[Wretched]

So is the B series, and truthfully the pic above of the FG-X interior doesn't reflect a near decade in advancement.

[XR Martin]

Yeah FGX needs more chrome, half a dozen different fabrics and textures, fake stitching and more buttons to make the interior look modern.

[bionic2006xr6t]

The FG I believe had one of the best laid out dashes ever fitted to a falcon. I was somewhat relieved that they retained it in the new falcon. It could have been another AU horror story and gone backwards. I remember sitting in my shiny new BF thinking how good is the interior now when I go from my FG to my BF I'm like OMG this is terrible.....that's just life unfortunately some will like it others will not!

Cheers Ryan