FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread

[Road_Warrior]

LMAO. You certainly have a swag of seriously up close shots at your disposal. Have you got one of the development mules at home in your garage or something?

[prydey]

hey spyman,

careful with the pics or you might lose your job.

oh wait......

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by prydey

hey spyman,

careful with the pics or you might lose your job.

oh wait......

Is that really something to joke about?

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by prydey

hey spyman,

careful with the pics or you might lose your job.

oh wait......

Ever thought that maybe it IS his job?

[spyman03]

morning, guys

Thanks if it was my full time job and this is "NOT" a joke I would be in the same line that now includes a lot of Toyota workers

********** globalists and their share holders

Keep strong we can only hope they go bankrupt again because "when you trim the roots off any tree it dies"......or falls over


R.I.P car local car industry


-spyman

[spyman03]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

LMAO. You certainly have a swag of seriously up close shots at your disposal. Have you got one of the development mules at home in your garage or something?

If I did we would be over here having a B.B.Q and a few bundies/beers talking about it and old times at the factory


spman03

[spyman03]

hey,

they got the hose and the black tape from Bunnings as a thank-you for giving up their native title for a Bunnings store

really its used to hold bagging way from car so I/you don't see the outline of said car.....Lamfao

spyman

[spyman03]

hey,

On an off topic note is any of you guys displaying at the

ALL FORD DAY IN GEELONG on the 16 of February


spyman

[I6DOHC]

Certainly interesting shots over the last day or so, it does look like a little bit of extra tech is being plugged into the next model. If they nail the looks, hopefully there's enough in the old girl to bridge the gap and bring some punters back to the fold.

Originally Posted by spyman03

morning, guys

********** globalists and their share holders

-spyman

Add to that the economic idealists and their believers (namely the politicians of the last 40yrs).

I'm still excited by the spyshots you are generous enough to capture and share, but it is tinged with some sadness knowing the end of an era is getting closer by the day.

[spyman03]

hey,

its always been my thinking that when Holden(VE) and ford(FG) started doing" A CAMRY" and that is keeping the look/tech of your car for 6 or more years ppl move on

ive just seen the new TT pics the dash is all dig and the sat nav comes up behind speedo and the fan speed is now in the vents themselves

I remember the good old days when I had the spy shots of the next update car as the refresh was coming out ie VZ when VY was being seen by media and I know it was just a headlight/bumper change but that's what I mean.

spyman

[ford man xf]

from what i understand, the FH will definetly be carrying over the cup holders

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by ford man xf

from what i understand, the FH will definetly be carrying over the cup holders

Cup Holders!!!....Are you serious ?? Thank god for that...much more important than mere driving dynamics...handling and car acceleration and braking performance..........et al.

[ford man xf]

Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

Cup Holders!!!....Are you serious ?? Thank god for that...much more important than mere driving dynamics...handling and car acceleration and braking performance..........et al.

On top of that, windscreen wipers will also be carried over from the FG to the FH, exciting times ahead right!

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by ford man xf

On top of that, windscreen wipers will also be carried over from the FG to the FH, exciting times ahead right!

If you were being ironic, please accept my apologies. A couple of years ago many auto "journalists" were assessing cars largely on the basis of their cup holders....and incredibly, many gullible (stupid) people were judging the quality and value of a car on that basis.

[au2000]

Originally Posted by spyman03

hey,

On an off topic note is any of you guys displaying at the

ALL FORD DAY IN GEELONG on the 16 of February


spyman

Yep I'll be there in the ford forums display... Can't wait..now that would be a great time to show off a fh falcon !!!!

[FalconXV]

Do you think it will get a new steering wheel? Something like Mustang's would be nice ( except the ugly switches).

If someone goes shopping for Calais V/G6E, they see the same interior as FG, just with different speedo font, trim pattern against the VF's complete re-do I think they'll vote with their feet.

[rancidpunx]

The new Falcon wont be able to compete with the VF in terms of the overall package. Ford have already made that clear. To stand any chance against it, it will need to be one hell of a sexy car with a new interior. Thats because its not going to get all the bells and whistles when it comes to toys and tech.
Ford have a habit of doing the bare minimum in the last decade or so when it comes to the Falcon. The FG came out a couple of years after the VE and matched (just matched) it for specs. Its a better looking car with a nicer interior. But it should have come out and upped the game to give Holden something to chase. Ford has always been ahead of the game with its engines and the the ZF is great but neither got people into the cars. As it was the VE2 update required very little to put it ahead again in terms for kit coupled with a new front bar. We had to wait until FG2 for projector headlights for christs sake. In 2012 we should have got keyless entry and start, ICC with hard drive, blind spot mirrors. All things that can be had on a $25k Kia or Hyundai. If Ford was ahead of the game we should have got all of that in the FG in 08 giving something for Holden to really think about with the VE2 update.
Now we are miles behind. The VF is a huge leap forward in terms of the overall package. Then they went and priced it to sell. We just are not going to see that kind of step to catch up again. Unfortunately Ford loyalists are a minority but will make up the majority of the sales. Anyone who is comparing the bones of the cars will be hard pressed to not buy a Holden, unless they are looking for 335 V8. And I bought 2 FG's.

[Polyal]

Sigh...all this is shaping up for a great car and its going to be the last one. Balls.

Thanks for the "updates" Spyman.

[fgpsi]

Originally Posted by rancidpunx

The new Falcon wont be able to compete with the VF in terms of the overall package. Ford have already made that clear. To stand any chance against it, it will need to be one hell of a sexy car with a new interior. Thats because its not going to get all the bells and whistles when it comes to toys and tech.
Ford have a habit of doing the bare minimum in the last decade or so when it comes to the Falcon. The FG came out a couple of years after the VE and matched (just matched) it for specs. Its a better looking car with a nicer interior. But it should have come out and upped the game to give Holden something to chase. Ford has always been ahead of the game with its engines and the the ZF is great but neither got people into the cars. As it was the VE2 update required very little to put it ahead again in terms for kit coupled with a new front bar. We had to wait until FG2 for projector headlights for christs sake. In 2012 we should have got keyless entry and start, ICC with hard drive, blind spot mirrors. All things that can be had on a $25k Kia or Hyundai. If Ford was ahead of the game we should have got all of that in the FG in 08 giving something for Holden to really think about with the VE2 update.
Now we are miles behind. The VF is a huge leap forward in terms of the overall package. Then they went and priced it to sell. We just are not going to see that kind of step to catch up again. Unfortunately Ford loyalists are a minority but will make up the majority of the sales. Anyone who is comparing the bones of the cars will be hard pressed to not buy a Holden, unless they are looking for 335 V8. And I bought 2 FG's.

If it looks anything like the Ford Fusion it will be a way better looking car than the VF. The VF IMO looks average and dull unless it's a hsv.

I'm confident that the G6ET/XR6T/XR8 will look far better than the VF

[spyman03]

Originally Posted by au2000

Yep I'll be there in the ford forums display... Can't wait..now that would be a great time to show off a fh falcon !!!!

Cool,

was going to go and take a few snaps of the product floating around the field

spyman

[csv8]

No excuse for not upspeccing the Falcon, enough parts in the World One Car parts bin. That wouldn't need much engineering for the Falcon or Tezza. eg : Kuga. kick open tailgate.
auto side steps from Expedition, auto drivers seat that goes back when door opens and goes back to drivers selected position. HUD, folding wing mirrors, etc etc. its not rocket science..we have the engineers..just do it!!

[Smoke Pursuit]

But CSV8 why bother?

Its only a short term project. If they were building another platform to last 6 - 7 years then yes you would expect that, but sadly they aren't.

I really wish they had just ended with FGII because no doubt everyone is going to whinge about the FH because its not as good as the VF.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by csv8

No excuse for not upspeccing the Falcon, enough parts in the World One Car parts bin. That wouldn't need much engineering for the Falcon or Tezza. eg : Kuga. kick open tailgate.
auto side steps from Expedition, auto drivers seat that goes back when door opens and goes back to drivers selected position. HUD, folding wing mirrors, etc etc. its not rocket science..we have the engineers..just do it!!

i get the feeling you don't really understand how many R & D hours have to go in to even the smallest of changes, even if they are already on other models.

[spyman03]

Originally Posted by FalconXV

Do you think it will get a new steering wheel? Something like Mustang's would be nice ( except the ugly switches).

If someone goes shopping for Calais V/G6E, they see the same interior as FG, just with different speedo font, trim pattern against the VF's complete re-do I think they'll vote with their feet.

GRRRRRRR,

I've finally given in,

was shot late last year so don't quote me if its not final spec was an FH
G6E spec car

the only change I could see was the door trim leather has 3 panel stitching

and the other cars are basically just trim changes

I'm not up to speed on the dial's so if they are diff you guys would know.

And by the finger prints Ive been told the control center has new goodies.

spyman....

pls note "the white lines are opt extra's"

[prydey]

to be fair, much of the cosmetic changes could probably be left until fairly late in the piece. early mules would be testing the systems etc, and would probably leave much of the existing dash in place to keep as much as possible under wraps.

[csv8]

is that wood trim I see ?? nice !! better than satin spears..just my opinion

[Road_Warrior]

I hope that is just an attribute/system testing mule in an FG body.

[xr6tjet]

Originally Posted by spyman03

GRRRRRRR,

I've finally given in,

was shot late last year so don't quote me if its not final spec was an FH
G6E spec car

the only change I could see was the door trim leather has 3 panel stitching

and the other cars are basically just trim changes

I'm not up to speed on the dial's so if they are diff you guys would know.

And by the finger prints Ive been told the control center has new goodies.

spyman....

pls note "the white lines are opt extra's"

Awesome photos man. Dunno how you get em but they definitely put the FH into perspective. I still think the mules have a lot of stuff hidden that will show in the final piece!

[Rodp]

I'm holding out to see how the XR8 looks. Unfortunately my new house has quite a small garage and there's perhaps 30cm clearance to the back wall once I squeeze my F6 in there.

Ultimately, it'll probably come down to how they price it and how it looks. All the extra gadgets I really don't give a futz about. My 2009 F6 is equipped enough for me. Bluetooth, reverse sensors and an iPod jack. Perfect.

I would assume the new Golf R will be out either close to the XR8 or slightly before. If they're around the same price, my dream of owning a supercharged V8 as a young boy probably won't come to fruition. A decision between a quick car that leaves my garage bulging at the seams compared to as quick a car that gives me ~1m of extra space and half the fuel usage..

I'm trying to buy one more Falcon, Ford. Please go out with a bang and you'll have a sale here.

[spyman03]

Originally Posted by csv8

is that wood trim I see ?? nice !! better than satin spears..just my opinion

hey,

if you call coated plastic, wood trim......lol


spyman


"note to all I've had to delete some of the earlier pics in this forum to continual posting pics sorry guys"