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Next week Vic should be pretty much back to near normal, with the exception of mass sporting crowds. Done and dusted in 4 weeks. The vic public should make an extra effort to support small businesses in the coming months. e.g. avoid asking for a refund or to suspend gym memberships if you can. |
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Big call on AZ just now. To be given to over 60s only is the new advice. More TTS have been reported. Its curious why the UK didn't seem to have this issue, or was it not reported?
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Id love to know how (if at all) the economic impact of these lockdowns is reported on. BTW I have no allegiance to any particular state and not interested in border relations in the slightest.
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My point is that all outbreaks hurt. The "let it run, roll the dice, and hope it doesn't spread" mentality has not proven to be better than having snap lock downs, it is not supported by the economic data made available. If NSW does turn out to be doing 2 or 3 times better than everyone else, I'm happy to change my mind. Last edited by T3rminator; 17-06-2021 at 04:37 PM. |
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![]() quote about Nth Beachs infections and the un confirmed strain how many times The GSS's through some posts Lockdown compared to wait before you jump and now the economies of each yer right you don't follow much. I'm sure you'll post up about the police investigation once released just for another oh it wasn't me but look at this. Talk about the hairs on your back lifting up re State vs State but oh I don't keep tabs on things lol.....turn it up T3, I'm sure your an ok bloke but damn you carry on like the media at times. Comments from a fellow melbournian today, "There's an exodus from Melbourne going on as we speak. In the past 12 months 9000 families have relocated out of the Melb metro area alone. Occupancy rates in CBD offices are at all time lows, businesses have discovered WFH saves them a fortune in rent, and providing hot desks allows them to down size when people have to come to the office. To be honest the Melb CBD is a ghost town compared to pre covid and it's now quite noticeable the amount of vagrants and undesirables that call it home, on top of the unprecedented number of boarded up shop fronts from businesses that didnt survive... On top of that a Mayor/council obsessed with eliminating cars from the roads, making it incredibly frustrating and difficult to get in there now anyway. I can't see it ever recovering." This is what your Lockdowns is doing plus add in the mental health issues that hardly get reported but people soldier on, wonder when that knock effect surfaces in time. The recent flooding, a friend hasn't had power to date. Oh but our economy is better and prove us wrong ![]() Mate the big diff were living - outdoors and everyone is busy as. Glad we don't have a Gov like your Danism for in the big picture more or less money we're getting on with covid life. Economies, you bring it up for the score card ![]() Sorry forthe countless good Melbournites having to convince themselves their on a good thing.
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OK... let me work this out. So a 3 week lockdown of 1/20th of the GSS capital's suburbia cost $3.4b. So how much did LD1-4 cost in Victoria? $20b? $30b? $50b?
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NSW residents are more gruntled.
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Show me cost and recovery data. Show me current state of play. Show me the economic model if said state opened up when it had 50-100 new cases a day. As I said, outbreaks hurt, based on data to date, one state's strategy has not yet proven to be economically better than the rest.
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Oi! Cheeky sausage...
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How many days has MEL/VIC been in lockdown? 164? 164/7=23.43*1.15=$27b |
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Apparently SA has a 2:1 relationship with VIC when it comes to money in versus out also.
That is, Vics bring 2x more dollars into SA than SA's bring into Vic. So the media was saying some time back. So in an indirect way SA has copped it a good amount from the Vic lockdowns also, as the border has been closed on and off for more than a year now. Its just eased again for regional Victorians going into SA, but not so much for Melburnians. |
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$125m x 14 days = $1.75b, half of the "other" estimate. As I said, the true cost won't be known for another 12-24 months. But for now, ACTUAL data from the CBA suggest one strategy has not significantly outdone the other. Quote:
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The original statement you made was that VIC with its lockdowns faired as well as the GSS without lockdowns. The maths disproved that. Can't help you after that.
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I believe I said that the one state that is rolling the dice has not proven to be significantly better than the others, economically. I'll leave it at that.
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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I find it very hard to believe that the cost of shutting down a whole state such as VIC has done compares anywhere close to favourably to locking down a part of Sydney like NSW has done.
It's bad for all of Australia regardless of which type of lockdown you have. |
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Location: Perth Australia
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I feel very, very lucky to be living in Perth, my life here has not changed noticeably since Covid-19 hit Australia, and I feel sorry for anyone in Sydney or Melbourne whose life has been impacted by the virus, especially small well regarded family businesses and just the average Aussie trying to make a living!
All my information comes via TV, newspapers etc, and its mostly political pointscoring, public denial and unfettered bull****!...lol. But every day I come here to the forum, click onto this thread and read every post! What I get here is neither good or bad or indifferent, its lots of debating and chiacking goes on, all good natured stuff but its real, these are the folk on the ground, not behind a news microphone and camera, what you have here is well thought out opinions, some are bull**** ( usually mine )..lol, hehehe... But what's here on this forum is real, so keep it coming blokes, and Leesa, lol, hahaha... Cheers King Billy ![]() |
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"Queensland’s population is the fastest growing in the country, up by 1.1 per cent, or 58,100, to almost 5.2 million. More than half of that growth was from people moving out of Victoria and NSW." Victoria, usually heavily reliant on international migration, has lost 40,000 to other countries, 13,000 to other states. NSW lost 16,000 to other states, but made up for some of it through international migration. |
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This reminds me of the Old Joke about all the People from Victoria Migrating to to Queensland... It raises the IQ of Both States...... ![]() |
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Where to next??
Join Date: Oct 2006
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I hope more countries will follow. Hopefully this prompts more to get the vaccination.
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DIY Tragic
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Sydney, more than not. I hate it.
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This age-raising for “recommended” use of the AstraZeneca vaccine is IMO close to an effective death-knell. A soft phasing out within Australia; if the recommended age is lifted again it will remove the remaining public confidence in it. My cynicism goes further, expecting that its recipients to date will eventually be told they have to fully re-vaccinate with another product. I’m pleased that the spin-off in better confirming/treating blood clots may have enduring benefits.
Aside from that, it looks like no further local cases of Coronavirus for NSW have been disclosed overnight - assuming they’re running with the current media release model popularised by Victoria of “as they are detected” plus a daily wrap. |
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