FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread

[CQB-241]

Originally Posted by Bucket

John Hughes is advertising FG-X's as "In stock"

They had a XR8 and XR6 in the window late on the afternoon of Sat 29th. I had been called by the new car manager to have a look but kids sports sabotaged that one...this week hopefully.

Want to get down to see the XR8 more closely as I have their 1st Manual (March production) locked in and it would be nice getting a hint of what what I am in for. I'm after an old-school musclecar experience when the welly goes in with short daily commutes but frequent weekend treks being the likely use. Reading between the lines after all the media BS about "features", "parts bin special" etc is exactly what I am likely to get which suits me fine.

Bit frustrated if the early tight production is ramped up as I was a (hopefully) lucky early uptake and the thought of some rarity suited me (& suits me) fine...but then she isn't a FPV and being "just a Ford" meant I could deal with that dealership and not the others who had exclusive access to Miami until now. JHF's WA competitors are their best advertisement, 'though have to admit the experience itself so far with them has been pretty good and I didn't get gouged when inking a car in early October. They knew back in early October that they had a "halo car" with XR8 even though I had more info from here than Ford had given them at that time.

[Road_Warrior]

Yeah John Hughes has a white auto XR8. Looks great, colour not my cup of tea tho.

[richo77]

Originally Posted by Mainforcepatrol

Not if it will be an everyday driver and dependant on where you live.If you are in the southern states with the fickle weather you only need to drive it for a day and it attracts dust like a magnet and with a little drizzle your washing again in no time.Having black at the moment i wouldnt go that way again.

I'd say the majority of the guys on here buying black want an excuse to spend the extra quality time on making their cars look good.

[asagaai]

Originally Posted by AUS GRUNT

That would obviously be USD 46k in the states...so here it would probably be upto to double the price

Lets do the maths:

# $46,000 US = $54,792.00 AUS
#shipping/transfers/cleaning say $5,000.00 AUS

Sub Total - rounded $60,000.00

GST- $6,000.00

= $66,000

So, allowing for currency fluctuations and conservative transfer costings, probably not less than $70,000 plus on roads....

[CQB-241]

Originally Posted by richo77

I'd say the majority of the guys on here buying black want an excuse to spend the extra quality time on making their cars look good.

No, we're just stupid making work for ourselves with our daily drivers but at least we will feel good when they are clean and look good.

[bionic2006xr6t]

Originally Posted by asagaai

Lets do the maths:

# $46,000 US = $54,792.00 AUS
#shipping/transfers/cleaning say $5,000.00 AUS

Sub Total - rounded $60,000.00

GST- $6,000.00

= $66,000

So, allowing for currency fluctuations and conservative transfer costings, probably not less than $70,000 plus on roads....

I'm presuming that ford Detroit tooled up to do right hand drive mustangs from the start? Anyone know? My uncle impoted one of the last bumble bee camaro's which he bought over there drove around for a bit and then imported. Conversion cost him $30,000 alone. With that car the was allot of work involved it even involves cutting out some of the firewall and floor and modifying it. Let's hope ford had the right hand drive configeration sortered from the start and save the purchaser $$$$$.

Cheers Ryan

[Bonn]

Japan, Singapore, Sth Africa, UK are all RHD, so would be thinking it's a pretty standard option.
Plenty of cashed customers in above-mentioned countries.....

[fgpsi]

Just seen on farcebook an xr6T auto did 13.6 couldn't beat that time pretty crap if you ask me

The T needed a power boost for the heavier body

[rst2000]

Originally Posted by fgpsi

an xr6T auto did 13.6 couldn't beat that time pretty crap if you ask me

couldn't beat what time exactly?

[fgpsi]

Originally Posted by rst2000

couldn't beat what time exactly?

13.6 pal couldn't better it

[Professor Farnsworth]

How much heavier is it?

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by fgpsi

Just seen on farcebook an xr6T auto did 13.6 couldn't beat that time pretty crap if you ask me

The T needed a power boost for the heavier body

FGX XR6T is 17kg heavier than the FG.

[Road_Warrior]

17kg - find a smaller driver. A pretty insignificant weight in the scheme of things it shouldn't have that much of a bearing on the times.

[fgpsi]

But didn't stock ZF FG turbos have no issues with running 12's ?

[Polyal]

Lifes tough when your not happy with a 13 sec pass out of a stock family sedan.

[responsef6]

Did they spool it up. Or just take off.
Mags have been recording low to mid 13s forever with fg f6 and xrt.

[responsef6]

Whilst real world drivers did high 12s.

Part of the holden media marketing machine. Can't have 6cyl turbos thrashing the holden v8s, can we?

[fgpsi]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Lifes tough when your not happy with a 13 sec pass out of a stock family sedan.

Not complaining but if they're all gonna be that slow I would rather buy an FG F6 for 25k and do mid 12s over the fgx turbo

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Tbm1121

Xr8, xr6turbo, g6e turbo, g6e, xr6 with luxury pack, and lux pack in the ute, and titanium in the territory.

Unfortunately not something you can just add to a non nav model either as the hardware is built into the icc, but the maps are now loaded via an sd card in the centre console.

FGII its built into the ICC. Sync models actually have GPS there as its the system that call for help in a crash.

[fordomatic]

Originally Posted by fgpsi

Not complaining but if they're all gonna be that slow I would rather buy an FG F6 for 25k and do mid 12s over the fgx turbo

Where are you shopping? Buy me 3

[fgpsi]

Originally Posted by fordomatic

Where are you shopping? Buy me 3

Probably exaggerating a tad but there's a few for 27-28 on carsale. Surely they wouldn't knock back 25k as nobody is buying big performance cars compared to a few years ago

[Tbm1121]

Originally Posted by vztrt

FGII its built into the ICC. Sync models actually have GPS there as its the system that call for help in a crash.

That's a GPS locator, not nav, the nav system is all pre loaded on the models that get it, but the maps are on an sd card, guarantee if you put the sd card in an xr6 it won't work. I've tried....

[turbo4]

Just a bit above rrp.....

[Eaturbo]

Originally Posted by turbo4

Just a bit above rrp.....

Blokes on drugs, demo, plus on roads.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by turbo4

Just a bit above rrp.....

And a September model as well

[2242100]

Originally Posted by responsef6

Whilst real world drivers did high 12s.

Part of the holden media marketing machine. Can't have 6cyl turbos thrashing the holden v8s, can we?

Accidental double post

[2242100]

Originally Posted by responsef6

Whilst real world drivers did high 12s.

Part of the holden media marketing machine. Can't have 6cyl turbos thrashing the holden v8s, can we?

Perhaps there wasn't enough grip to make a high stall work and as I've found, that can cost nearly half a second. Also if the overboost doesn't work then I believe the combination can cost around a second.
As I've mentioned previously, at WSID I got a mid 12 out of my stock untuned XR6T Auto that I've had since new, and I was careful not to give the car a hard time before the run, as I wanted to make sure that the overboost was working (didn't do a burnout).
Actually my RACELOGIC GPS data has shown me that if the rear brakes don't hold during a high stall, then at least 10-12% rolling pace is lost if I don't give the car a cooldown run before trying again. So it seems that the overboost doesn't work when this happens.
It's normally available in everyday real world driving but I wouldn't expect it to work too well if the car was to run back to back 1/4 mile runs without a cooldown run between.
I think that may be a problem with published tests that we see. If they keep doing practice starts and 1/4 mile runs without cooldown runs, then I suspect there may be no overboost by the time they get the best launch. Then if there isn't enough grip for a high stall launch, a potential mid 12 second car can end up with a mid 13 second time.
I think it's similar with the Supercharged GT V8. We know owners can get well down into the 12's with above mid 180's end speeds in a dragstrip run, but most of the published road tests that I've seen have been quite a bit slower.

[LoudPipes]

Originally Posted by 2242100

I think it's similar with the Supercharged GT V8. We know owners can get well down into the 12's with above mid 180's end speeds in a dragstrip run, but most of the published road tests that I've seen have been quite a bit slower.

That’s because too many drivers forget to pull over and give the car a rest between traffic lights.

[bionic2006xr6t]

Guy other than the top gear magazine road test, write up and shoot out with the redline what other motoring magazines have had write ups on the new XR8's?

Cheers Ryan

[OZQUAD44]

Originally Posted by arronm

So you would trust your instinct more than the posted speed limit and your cars speed that's constantly right in front of your eyes.

Given the speed cameras and the cost of speeding fines. And not even taking into account the safety aspects. Heads up display is without a doubt a feature that in years to come ALL cars will have

He doesn't like the HUD, and that's OK. Just because car manufacturers put new crap on cars doesn't mean they're the be all and end all. HUD can be a little distracting.


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