2021 Mustang Mach 1

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by kypez

My deposit is down pending confirmation on the handling pack. No handling pack equals no sale for me. It's an overpriced Mustang without it.

Just remember, it comes with 295/305 Sport cup 2 tyres and stiffer sway bars,
special magnetic ride tune and stiffer steering from Performance Pack 2.

The sport pack option is only on 6MT, which is a close ratio box.
Probably know all of that anyway but it pays to check what you get standard,
I recon that will be a cracker as is......

The only reason we missed out on GT Mustang with PP2 was Ford didn't get approval
for wider track and tyres, all of that has been rectified, so no reason why we won't get
that optional performance pack.

(Would be wonderful to dust off Falcon sedan with lots of nice bits from Mustangs)

[GT450]

It will sell well but it really depends on the price point Ford offer it at, I suspect it maybe a little over Bullitt money but under Rspec price so maybe $90-$95k and I think that's too much. Plenty of dealers added to their profit with the Bullitt as it was ltd edition and I can't see this being any different. Cheapest Rspec I have seen is $114k and they were supposed to be just under $100k, sorry but I just can't see the extra over a GT being worth it.
Now that's my opinion , many people have bought them so they disagree and the Mach1 will be no different but with so many variants available ( now the Scotty Mac one to come ) it just devalues the lot of them.
However if I was to spend the extra I would definitely go with the factory version ( Mach 1 ) as I see them as being ultimately more collectible. I wouldn't have minded a Bullitt but at $30K more than my GT I couldn't justify the cost, but again that's my opinion.

[Polyal]

For me its not a >$80k car, others it may be different.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Polyal

For me its not a >$80k car, others it may be different.

Track focused car with 5 year unlimited kms warranty. Worth a few extra dollars.

Don't think they should be bought by people hoping to make a dollar on the in the future though.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Polyal

For me its not a >$80k car, others it may be different.

Well they are limited to 700, and these special editions usually sell like hot cakes.

It's more than just some different suspension and stickers.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Well they are limited to 700, and these special editions usually sell like hot cakes.

It's more than just some different suspension and stickers.

Trans sure if worth a bit.

Diff cooler? Not that expensive.

Intake from Ford Racing.

Magnaride, fine thats good but an option on the GT?

Spoiler pack..yeah OK

Dont get me wrong I love the car, but if its much north of $80k then good luck. The other specials have a S/C which people I would think see the benefit in and "value" to get to the $100k mark.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Trans sure if worth a bit.

Diff cooler? Not that expensive.

Intake from Ford Racing.

Magnaride, fine thats good but an option on the GT?

Spoiler pack..yeah OK

Dont get me wrong I love the car, but if its much north of $80k then good luck. The other specials have a S/C which people I would think see the benefit in and "value" to get to the $100k mark.

Much more than that. Look at the complete spec change and it's pretty comprehensive. Magnaride is retuned to suit the upgraded suspension and tyres.

Doubt it's 100k.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Much more than that. Look at the complete spec change and it's pretty comprehensive. Magnaride is retuned to suit the upgraded suspension and tyres.



Doubt it's 100k.

Which set though? The handling Pack ones or the standard tyres?

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Much more than that. Look at the complete spec change and it's pretty comprehensive. Magnaride is retuned to suit the upgraded suspension and tyres.

Doubt it's 100k.

I tried too and couldnt find much more than that.

[DFB FGXR6]

This article suggests the Mach 1 costs more that the Bullitt in the US.

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/10/14/...er-books-open/

US Bullitt RRP Price - $46,705
US Mach 1 RRP Price - $52,915

In Australia, the Bullitt had a RRP before on roads of $73,688. My guess based on the US base price difference, Mach 1 will be about $80,000 - $85,000 RRP. Of course this will depend on what Ford Australia make standard.

[GO FURTHER]

Mach 1 colours have been released...

[Polyal]

Just make it the same price as the Bullet IMO, generally you wont have both for sale at the same time.

No red or yellow?

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Just make it the same price as the Bullet IMO, generally you wont have both for sale at the same time.

No red or yellow?

$10k more than Bullitt

[Blue_XR]

and the price is in....2021 Ford Mustang Mach 1 to cost from $83,365 plus on-roads, auto and manual

https://www.caradvice.com.au/895099/...to-and-manual/

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Blue_XR

and the price is in....2021 Ford Mustang Mach 1 to cost from $83,365 plus on-roads, auto and manual



https://www.caradvice.com.au/895099/...to-and-manual/

Yep, as mentioned, $10k more than Bullitt money.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Just make it the same price as the Bullet IMO, generally you wont have both for sale at the same time.

No red or yellow?

The issue is that it’s USD$6k more, so that’s $8.5k here plus 30% LCT

[sr71]

How much deposit would be required for one of these?

[kypez]

Originally Posted by sr71

How much deposit would be required for one of these?

Depends on your dealer. $1000 would be enough. Some ask $3000

[anobserver]

It lists a limited slip diff as standard. Im surprised the regular grade mustang doesnt have one.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by anobserver

It lists a limited slip diff as standard. Im surprised the regular grade mustang doesnt have one.

I think it does but the Mach 1 gets a torsen diff which is awesome!

[M&Ms]

Ford's confirmed no handling pack for Oz... pity

[adz193]

Originally Posted by M&Ms

Ford's confirmed no handling pack for Oz... pity

Ah damn... where has it been mentioned?

[M&Ms]

Originally Posted by adz193

Ah damn... where has it been mentioned?

Ford have on their Facebook page. Many claim to have cancelled their orders as a result in the comments section.

Ford
Great question Simon! The Handling Pack won’t be available on Australian Mach 1 models.
However, our limited-edition 2021 Mustang Mach 1 becomes the most track-capable 5.0-litre Mustang ever; track-focused upgrades include specially calibrated V8 engine, more precise steering, improved ride and handling. Kind Regards, Gulten @ Ford Australia

https://www.facebook.com/FordAustralia

[ivorya]

https://www.motor1.com/news/449932/2...e-gt500-track/

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by M&Ms

Ford have on their Facebook page. Many claim to have cancelled their orders as a result in the comments section.

Ford
Great question Simon! The Handling Pack won’t be available on Australian Mach 1 models.
However, our limited-edition 2021 Mustang Mach 1 becomes the most track-capable 5.0-litre Mustang ever; track-focused upgrades include specially calibrated V8 engine, more precise steering, improved ride and handling. Kind Regards, Gulten @ Ford Australia

https://www.facebook.com/FordAustralia

Does that claim by Ford still apply when Mach 1 is fitted with the optional handling pack?
Without it, the car will get dusted by Camaro 1LE like the regular GT350 did.

Not sure what Ford was thinking here, people paying +$83k for a HP Mustang rightly
have an expectation to option up to a more hard core model, FoA obviously knows better.

[jpd80]

Just heard that strong US demand for the handling pack now means
that Ford will offer it on the Automatic cars as well,
let's hope this drives a change of heart locally.....

[Bossxr8]

If BMW and the like can offer competition series M cars, it’s odd that Ford can’t follow suit selling more cars. But i guess with an allocation of just 700 cars they would probably have no idea how many people of those 700 would want the handling pack.

I guess with the M cars being on going models, and not a set allocation, it makes it easier for them to order whatever the customer asks for.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

If BMW and the like can offer competition series M cars, it’s odd that Ford can’t follow suit selling more cars. But i guess with an allocation of just 700 cars they would probably have no idea how many people of those 700 would want the handling pack.

I guess with the M cars being on going models, and not a set allocation, it makes it easier for them to order whatever the customer asks for.

Given the US response, obviously Ford has a "blind spot" to customers wanting handling packs on automatics which also happened with regular GT + PP2.

Lessons learned about market research that may not reflect the desires of niche buyers?

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

If BMW and the like can offer competition series M cars, it’s odd that Ford can’t follow suit selling more cars. But i guess with an allocation of just 700 cars they would probably have no idea how many people of those 700 would want the handling pack.

I guess with the M cars being on going models, and not a set allocation, it makes it easier for them to order whatever the customer asks for.

Yep. And its this stupid thinking that has me cancelling my order. I wanted the Handling pack. The others can all make it work but somehow, Ford can't. I can't see them selling out of the Mach 1 in Australia. I think Ford fail to understand how important the Handling Pack is for most customers.

Given production hasn't started, I don't get what the issue would be just to ask people what they want and get it done. If it means a slight delay in getting them out to customers, I don't think anyone will mind if it has the options we want.

[Nu66et]

Do the customers even get what they order on cars like these, or do the dealers make the order first and worry about selling them later?