Who do you hate the most? a poll with pictures

[XR6_190]

The 2 worst things drivers do, are hugging the right lane and even worse than that is the lack of ability to merge. I spend a lot of my time on Highways in and around Melbourne, especially the Western Ring Road, and OMG, the amount of people you see with absolutely no effin idea how to merge, it's just bloody scary. The amount of fatalities it has caused in the past, yet the government do more about people driving 5 Kms over the limit and don't care that half of the people driving on our roads don't have a clue.

As you might have guessed this subject really gets me going too.

[jason71]

Terrified mergers differentially tops my list, what is so hard about getting up
to speed on a long on ramp?

They then expect the flowing traffic to move over for them!

Arrrgggghhhh it makes it so hard when you are stuck behind the fools.

[pauljh74]

2 examples of what annoys me:
On the Monash freeway approaching Stud Rd eastbound, a 30+ y.o. guy in a Peugot flies up in the middle lane to my right and is itching to get around the cars in front and either side of him who were doing up to 5 over the limit - a fair speed. I kept a small enough distance to the car in front of me to deter a normal person from cutting me off, but coming closer to the exit he simply hit the indicator at the same time as changing lanes and was 2 metres behind the car he was following and 2 metres in front of me. I just put my hand up and shook my head to say "What the hell are you doing?" He saw me and knew exactly where I was but cut me off anyway. I resisted the urge to wind down my passenger window at the lights and explain to him the meaning of "give way" and "safe margin" while commenting that his head and male genitalia look similar.

Now if someone "asks" to lane change in front of me by indicating first and waiting for me to open a gap for them, I will usually oblige 99% of the time. I also use this method for when I want to change lanes in traffic. This allows me to make necessary adjustments to make room for them. More drivers have this attitude of "I want to go there, I will do so regardless of that car in the next lane".

Another example was a Pathfinder who was holding me up (10km below the limit) and sped up 10km/h when I went to go around him on a 3 lane arterial road. I could have squeezed in front before I caught the car directly in front, but played it safe and was stuck following this van with the Pathfinder alongside me. Now the Pathfinder puts his indicator on and remains at the same speed as me and I am exactly alongside him. He has to give way to me and I did not change speed to block him. He just started moving over - I hit the horn, he swerved back and then came at me again and kept coming, despite me being on the horn. Obviously at this stage my 2 options are to get run off the road or brake hard, I chose the latter. Next, having missed the slip lane into Parkmore S/C, he turns left from the wrong side of that traffic island at a speed that would be on the limit for that vehicle. Now at no point in the 1km prior when he knew he was approaching the shops, did he make any effort to manoeuvre himself into the appropriate lane and was willing to run me off the road to ensure he didn't miss that turn, despite another option being 200 metres away.

Before any whingers say I should tolerate this quietly and just let people do this sort of stuff to me (and others) - well I do the right thing and get into the correct lane early, get held up by other cars that are travelling slower than I want to go (but accept) and then these clowns just do what they like, contrary to expected standards by fellow motorists (which are rapidly declining) and road laws.

Another one was on the Moorooduc Hwy in Frankston. Now I took off from the lights quicker than the other 2 lanes next to me, but had a guy tailgating me so close I couldn't see half his bonnet in the rear view. This view is familiar when a car is stopped half a metre behind me at the lights, but this guy was doing it at 60 and accelerating. So I looked at him via the rear view, did a swatting like hand motion to tell him to drop back and lifted off the throttle - but not brake test, that has a good chance of ending in tears - it's something I do to aggressive and dangerous tailgaters. His response was to cut off the guy to his left, race past me, cut me off and brake test me, by pulling up abruptly 20 metres before the line. He finished it off by dropping a burnout on the spot, giving me the finger and took off up the road.

Some people would say I should have done nothing, but then this clown would have continued to tailgate me and the problem would remain, which is not a good outcome. One observation that is becoming more noticeable is that before if someone was doing something stupid and cut you off etc to move through traffic faster, you might get an apology wave or they would do nothing and not make eye contact. Now you get cut off and for the audacity of honking your horn at them, you get abuse because you dare to voice your disapproval of their sub-standard driving.

[andrewts]

I don't like tailgaters. They won't overtake, but if I hit the brakes, I'll spear a hole in their radiator with the Hayman Reese. Sometimes I just slow down until they do change lanes, and then sped back up again, but then I feel guilty as I sit and watch them tailgate somebody else...

[ILLaViTaR]

Originally Posted by Dezaman

right lane hogs definetely, but a lot of the others im ashamed to say but i am, i do checkers when i see another car doing it, and mainly i tailgate 100% of the time, i learnt to drive by staying on someones *** cause i can match there speed, but p platers will be p platers

If you were tail gating me I'd slow down until you stop hop out the car and smash you one.

It's extremely annoying, dangerous and puts the person been tailgated in stress.

Seeing as you say you tailgate 100% of the time and cars don't go below the speed limit 100% of the time, that means you're constantly speeding.

I can just picture you as some retarded road menace harassing some poor old driver.

You also do checkers when another car does it. You're obviously a road menace.

Indeed you should be ashamed as you said.

P platers will be P platers? It's because of idiots like you that P platers are given a bad name. We should be the ones driving more carefully because we have less experience.

You should change it to "Idiots will be idiots"; That's far more fitting.

Give up your license idiot.

People like you who endanger the lives of families just to satisfy your impatience or twisted idea of fun shouldn't be on the road.

I've been driving for barely a year and have already had a few close calls with reckless idiots like you. Without people like you the roads would be much safer.

[xbgs351]

Originally Posted by Bad Bird

Are those that are choosing 'right lane huggers' themselves 'tailgaters'?

Both equally annoying, but tailgaters are definitely more rude.

The only time I ever tailgate is when I approach a 'right lane hugger'. For instance, if I'm in the right lane doing 110 km/h and there is a car ahead doing 90 km/h in the right lane, I don't back off until I'm getting reasonably close. Do this and 9 times out of 10 the 'right lane hugger' will move into the left lane. If I only approach to my normal following distance 9 times out of 10 they will continue on their merry way. If I have got reasonably close to a 'right lane hugger' and they haven't moved over, I will back off to my normal following distance and try and avoid the temptation to overtake using the left hand lane.

[ea90gl]

Jeez they all make me sick, people need to wake up these days and learn how to drive.
But there are a few more which i think havnt been mentioned, one is the "sunday driver in peak hour traffic". Its flat chat on the roads and once stopped at the traffic light these people take a few seconds to realise its gone green and further still decide to take off at a very slow pace. They come to a round about and virtually stop. they look left. they look right. they sit there until they know the only car coming their way is at least 1 km down the rd, then they finally proceed. they come to a right turn on an intersection with no arrow, move a bout an inch up and then wait. They only proceed to turn when all oncoming traffic is about 6km down the road. Or when the lights go orange, instead of moving up and quickly turning (which could allow about 2-3 cars following to make the same turn) they virtually wiat until the light goes red and very slowly proceed to turn. So much more but too annoying to remember...
Then you have the bogans that seem to enjoy road rage, the people that have a spastic attack for no reason, if you change lanes in front of them (even at a safe distance) or stop on a main road just to turn into a back street. For instance from this behaviour I almost got into a punch up the other day. I pull up infront of a video store as the guy infront is getting in his car (blue VN with a primer bonnet and missing rear bumper lol). He proceeds to reverse faster than usual and comes within inches of my car. I give a quick beep just as a warning in case he doesnt see me, so what does he do? Gives me the middle finger. Naturally you give it back with some more beeping. He gets out, I have my fiance in the car who isnt too comfortable at this point, we swap swear words and threats but ofcourse why get into a fight over something so stupid. He heads off like the bogan he is leaving us confused and wondering wtf was this guy on? Any way thats enough for now i think some one should come up with a car massage seat maybe that will help deal with the stress sometimes

[noosacuda]

"D"- All of the Above! And fools who turn from the wrong lanes on round-abouts and don't indicate.

[Ozfords]

The one-speed-fits-all-idiots. The ones that do 90 in 100 and then 90 in 80 and forever, because flactuating your speed is such a bloody chore!

[Bad Bird]

Originally Posted by xbgs351

The only time I ever tailgate is when I approach a 'right lane hugger'. For instance, if I'm in the right lane doing 110 km/h and there is a car ahead doing 90 km/h in the right lane, I don't back off until I'm getting reasonably close. Do this and 9 times out of 10 the 'right lane hugger' will move into the left lane. If I only approach to my normal following distance 9 times out of 10 they will continue on their merry way. If I have got reasonably close to a 'right lane hugger' and they haven't moved over, I will back off to my normal following distance and try and avoid the temptation to overtake using the left hand lane.

Wait... are you Rohan from Corner-Carvers?

[broken_suave]

Urgh, I really cant beleive the lack of common sense on the roads.


The other night I was driving on the Gateway motorway, I had not long merged onto the motorway, and I found there was a line of cars driving at about 90km/h.

Fine I thought, I dont really care if there are slow drivers, as long as they're in the left hand lane. So I merged into the right hand lane, and sat at maybe about 102km/h. I was passing them fairly quickly, so I cruised along, passing what must have been close to 15 cars.

I've been checking my rear view mirror regularly, and noticing a set of headlights approaching for a while. Looks kind of like a Commodore. Next thing I know, the interior of my car is lit up by this idiots headlights, as he encroaches at a very silly speed, then it all goes dark again... he was so close, I couldnt see his headlights. He backed off about a metre, then back on it again, then backed off enough to flash his highbeams at me.

But I'm already doing nearly 110km/h at this point, and I'm still easily passing cars on the left, yet there is no room for me to merge into the left lane to get out of his way. I slow a bit, not so much to him off, but to return to the speed limit.

Eventually I merge into a clear left lane, not wasting any time getting there mind you. And before I'm in the left lane, the VE Commodore Omega roars past with NSW plates, with a fat old man behind the wheel. However, rather than just speeding off in a fit of his own stupidity, he takes an intentional quick swerve at me.

This was not the pleasant late night cruise with my girlfriend that I had hoped for.

But then, after he gets ahead, he pulls into the right hand lane and slows to 90km/h.

Being the reckless youngster that I am, full of road rage, I delay my deceleration until I'm close behind him (though admittedly, not nearly as close as he was to me). A few flashes of the AU's highbeams and then merged into the right lane with a little foot massage, a third gear selection on the auto, and the all important right indicator, I put him in my rear view mirror, and resumed the posted speed limmit of 100km/h.

I understand my retaliation was really no better than his actions, I even voiced that audibly to my girlfriend in the passenger seat. I'm not deluded enough to think what I did was warranted but I tell you what, I felt better for it.


Seperately, today while picking my girlfriend up from work (as I do every day :P), I was driving along a main arterial road, in the right hand lane, and there was a BA Fairlane ahead of me.

First thing I noticed was that he drifted into the left hand lane through the most mild sweeping corner you'll ever see. Didnt matter, there was no one in the left hand lane.

But after a set of lights a bus came up along side of my car, and the Fairlane infront. The Fairlane then drove under the 70km/h speed limit, and drifted frequently halfway into the left hand lane, infront of this bus. I could see the bus just wanted to drive past, but couldnt.

This continued for several kays, before the Fairlane put his right indicator on to turn off. Great I thought, I can get past, and the bus can drive along without fear of hitting anyone. Nope, he pulled to the right as the lane approached, but was still half in the right hand lane, and half in the turning lane, when he came to a stop.

On a 70km/h road.

At the bottom of a steep decent.

Sitting still, in my lane. So I honked the horn, which startled the oblivious mid 40 year old woman. She turned around and looked around her frantically. She then proceeded to START REVERSING INTO ME. I Honked my horn again, causing her to jam on the brakes suddenly. She then drove forward about the same 3 metres she'd just reversed.
So there we were, just sitting there.

I was unable to merge into the left lane, as there was traffic whizzing past, that had been held up by the bus which was unable to pass.

she eventually decided that she couldnt turn right due to there being too many on comming cars, so she got back into the right hand lane and continued driving slowly, until a set of lights, where she stopped at the red, and then on the green, put on her right indicator and tried to turn right. But there was a turning lane to the right of her. She still passively forced her way in, by just getting in their way.

This gave me enough room to shoot past her. Oh the releif.

Sorry about the garantuan post, but a rant here saves one on the road.

[broken_suave]

Originally Posted by JAB-AIR

...believe it or not, I have also passed an idiot in the righthand lane tossing himself off, I mean can't you wait 'til you get home?

Wasnt a Holden driver was it?

Poor guy was just trying to enjoy his drive, and you're giving him a hard time :P

[TOASTED]

what annoys me is idiots that overtake you or the car infront only to get stuck behind the fifty other cars that are infront of you, pointless overtaking i guess we would call it

[Mechan1k]

Don't get me started on other drivers .... I have to deal with the majoroty of the idiots on Sydney's roads.

Taxi drivers in general are the worst that there is out there (I have comes across the odd rare good one though).

You name it ... i have probably seen it ... nothing is a shock anymore.

Pet Hates:
Right lane hoggers.
People that meander into other's lanes (namely my lane) without realising.
Extremely hesitant drivers ... I go by the old saying ... he/she who hesitates is lost/DEAD.
The champion that has to overtake you at 160km/h to then cut you off and just make the freeway exit by barely missing the armco by centimetres. (While there is a 1 km gap behind me they could have used).
People that sit blankly staring at green lights (waiting for Xmas).
Did I mention taxi drivers????
And oxygen thieves that illegally park in loading zones as well.

Just to name a couple really. Other than that ... you can usually spot a shocking driver from a mile away ... and when i do ... to keep my sanity I steer well clear of them.

[DDXR6T]

Originally Posted by Dezaman

right lane hogs definetely, but a lot of the others im ashamed to say but i am, i do checkers when i see another car doing it, and mainly i tailgate 100% of the time, i learnt to drive by staying on someones *** cause i can match there speed, but p platers will be p platers

You're the moron that causes accidents. Although you may not be a part of it, you are likely to be the underlying cause of it.

I'm sure you'll tailgate the wrong driver one day and cop a smack in the gob for you're actions.

[DDXR6T]

Another that is left off the list is 'the speed-up'. Seems to be a favourite here in adelaide. You'll pull into a very comfortable gap in traffic and begin to get to speed (quite briskly may I add), and some moron in the traffic you're infront of, will try to create the perception that the gap wasn't big enough by speeding up and sitting on your bumper.

Anyone else get this?

[Mechan1k]

Either that ... or a towback through his radiator ... and then probably followed by an iron bar/kife/gun to the head not long after (you just never know what a person has with them in a car).

Best bet ... avoid road rage altogether ... and try not to provoke it ... cos one day ... someone is going to pull a gun on you (it has happened to others before ... so don't say it won't happen).

[T3ts50]

There should be an all of the above option

[DEVL-XR]

I hate it when theres 2 cars in front of me both doing 10 km's under the limit then when the single lane turns into a dual lane they both pick separate lanes so everyone behind them can't overtake them.
I also hate tail gaters, people who don't indicate, people who indicate around 90 degree BENDS in the road, people who overtake me in a short over taking lane just to be held up by the next car in front of me (as someone said above, pointless overtaking!), people who cut me off.....well what can I say I hate people who drive! Why can't they all just stay home and let me drive by myself!!

Oh almost forgot my biggest hatred, bloody cyclists in big groups who ride 2 or 3 abreast all over the lane, "Ooo look I'm a road user too..." is what they say until I mow them down in my Monster Truck!!

[ILLaViTaR]

Originally Posted by BradensEBxr6

I hate it when theres 2 cars in front of me both doing 10 km's under the limit then when the single lane turns into a dual lane they both pick separate lanes so everyone behind them can't overtake them.
I also hate tail gaters, people who don't indicate, people who indicate around 90 degree BENDS in the road, people who overtake me in a short over taking lane just to be held up by the next car in front of me (as someone said above, pointless overtaking!), people who cut me off.....well what can I say I hate people who drive! Why can't they all just stay home and let me drive by myself!!

Oh almost forgot my biggest hatred, bloody cyclists in big groups who ride 2 or 3 abreast all over the lane, "Ooo look I'm a road user too..." is what they say until I mow them down in my Monster Truck!!

Cyclists are annoying. Had one the other day in the left lane just before a 2 lane roundabout. He was on the very left of the left lane . I was in the same lane however to the right. He's going slow as hell and I'm wanting to turn left and he wants to go straight on!!!! It was obvious to me he wasn't going to stop. (If I was on the bike I would have).

So I got cut off and had to wait for him to take a good while to cross as it was uphill.

Legally, they're doing nothing wrong but seriously the road is for cars; bikes are too vulnerable for the road.

Imo they should only be used on cycling tracks and in residential (50) areas. But that'll never happen. The soft (more like omg I don't wanna discriminate) governments of today have no problem in ****ing of the majority just so we aren't discriminating against cyclists (minority). So they make these ridiculous laws.

Yes I rode a bike for a good while, probably like everyone else.
Never once did I ride with traffic. Most cyclists don't because they know it's stupid and dangerous. But you seem to get the ones who are really into it with those ridiculous helmets and tight suits who don't care and hog the whole road.


I know i'll get flamed for this but it's my opinion, nothing else.

[ovl351]

I hate when you are following someone in your freshly washed and polished ford when some twit in front of you decides its time for a windscreen wash and proceeds to shower your car with their dirty excess spray.

[DoreSlamR]

Originally Posted by ovl351

I hate when you are following someone in your freshly washed and polished ford when some twit in front of you decides its time for a windscreen wash and proceeds to shower your car with their dirty excess spray.

But its a good trick to get a tailgater off your butt

[alecrain]

Originally Posted by DoreSlamR

But its a good trick to get a tailgater off your butt

Yes, I actually read it somewhere on the forums, that if you have a wagon you can adjust the rear window sprayer to squirt away form the car, making tailger's windscreen quite wet :

[Krakey]

pensioners......

[Keepleft]

Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

I believe the RH lane huggers are helped along by the way they mark out the lanes.

The RH lane is continuous, whilst the LH lanes have the vehicles merging in from the freeway entries. Also here in Vic the LH lanes are discontinuous so you need to keep changing lanes for that reason, if you do try to drive in the left lane. So drivers sit in the RH lane as they therefore aren't affected by the merging traffic or lanes that end.

In England, it is the RH lane that is discontinuous and is therefore is an overtaking lane only. The LH lane is continuous coming from the motorway entry, so cars entering dont need to merge into the traffic. So if you keep driving in the RH lane, you end up having to move over to the left as the lane ends (or get flashed at by a rapidly approaching Jaguar or something with its headlights flashing, as some dont muck about with speed limits).
Big no-no driving in anything other than the left lane in England, and you're not allowed to overtake on the left either. But the roads there are designed so you can drive in the left lane.

NSW RTA in relation to the F3 are looking at dropping the right-lane (on 3-laned sections reducing to two) and leaving the left-lane unbroken, but such a program will take years to complete.

Text that relates to this diagram is in the NSW RUH, we are the only state to teach it so.
http://www.fordforums.com.au/attachm...chmentid=28821

[red_hotxr6]

Easy, Holden drivers that think the road belongs to them....

[xquizd]

Have to say right lane huggers p155 me off the most, theres just so many of them just plodding along usually 10 - 15 k's under the limit oblivious to whats going on around them :

Second would have to be tailgaters, 5tup1d m0r0n5 : next person to tailgate me might just get a prezzy :

[colossus]

I hate Right Lane Hoggers the most followed by the scared mergers one.

Merging is an opportunity,.....no a right....for a big WOT roll on, not an opportunity to timidly poke your crapbox into traffic doing double your speed.

[TOASTED]

i hate everyone/thing on the road. cyclists/grannies/people who sit below the speed limit/all of the above/there are just so many dipshits out there who need to resit the friggin L plates. i admit im not perfect but seeing all these other idiots do things that annoy the crap out of me i feel as if i owe it to myself not to do any of these things.

[Keepleft]

Re cyclist. The "United Nations Convention on Road Traffic" (1968) prohibits cyclists, tractors, pedestrians and horse-drawn vehicles from using 'motorway' class roads whatsoever.

Over the years, militant advocacy by cyclist groups and individuals, and with the political correctness of some road agency staff, have seen NSW in particular remove the old prohibition signs from the start-point of motorways, and to even mark a diagram of cycle on what was originally the left emergency shoulder at intervals.

This needs to change. Expressways, motorways, tollroad, freeway emergency shoulders are no place for cycling.

None of this gives has any bearing to the recent news event beyond that of recognition of a problem.