Police hit speed bump to replace Ford Falcon and Holden Commodore highway patrol cars - Page 4

asagaai · 16-03-2016, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

But they are on loan. ie. no cost to the tax payer

Did you read the article?

Yes- on loan to use and no cost to tax payer at present, but on loan for evaluation.... inducement to acquire ....sales....on bulk.....

Given the loose spending of our money by third parties, may as well have the HWP use these at our expense into the future as well....they are big and at least I will know what to look out for in my rear vision mirror

Trump · 16-03-2016, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by asagaai

Yes- on loan to use and no cost to tax payer at present, but on loan for evaluation.... inducement to acquire ....sales....on bulk.....

Given the loose spending of our money by third parties, may as well have the HWP use these at our expense into the future as well....they are big and at least I will know what to look out for in my rear vision mirror

Whilst I do agree with you on the largesse of the bureaucracy and the wholesale rorting of the system, there is buckley's chance that this would ever be considered as a highway patrol option. Even with discounting, this thing would still come to $160k, something the bean counters won't look too kindly on. They buy the SS and XR6T for under $40k driveaway as an FYI.

This is just a clever marketing stunt by M-B.

Trump · 16-03-2016, 01:32 PM

Whereas a C63 could actually happen. At bulk pricing, it would come close to the current price for a UK one (approx $91k at current rates, ex-VAT). Being a govco purchase, I'm not sure how they would go around the LCT and other crap like that though.

**Giant Cranium** · 16-03-2016, 02:07 PM

Mb should do a povo pack c63 for Australia and nz. What a weapon on the 2nd hand market

xxx000 · 16-03-2016, 02:57 PM

I hear the.new Mustang failed NSWP brake testing badly and over heated as well

Trump · 16-03-2016, 03:07 PM

Rumor or factual?

Seasoned One · 16-03-2016, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by malazn mafia

The Police should buy Geelong and Broadmeadows assembly plants, build Police Falcons and Territories using convict labour. Voila, no more high labour costs, union strikes, and prisoners are finally good for something instead of being on paid vacation... Hell, we could even become viable exporters again and beat the Chinese and Thais at their own game with such cheap production. Wasn't Australia itself built by convicts anyway? Worked back then, should work now, political correctness aside..,

good idea, I'm with you

GXL078 · 16-03-2016, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by xxx000

I hear the.new Mustang failed NSWP brake testing badly and over heated as well

I'm not surprised. They need to Shelby them up. Put a set of these babies on.

And you get a bigger radiator if you order the performance pack.

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/ford/20...4474.html#main

ozpacman · 17-03-2016, 08:11 PM

The latest Qld Police Bulletin has an article on an evaluation of Hyundai Sonata sedans as a replacement for general duties sedans. They have placed three of them at stations in the south east corner to determine how they perform.

Obviously they wouldn't be used for highway patrol duties but they may go okay in the generals role - time will tell.

Police work is hard on vehicles though. Several years ago I worked in a smaller sized station in the Far North and one of my areas of responsibility was looking after our three car fleet which was generally two sedans and a divisional van.

No spanner work or anything, my role was just to ensure that fluids and tyre pressures etc were monitored and the service schedule was maintained.

The sedans (BF's) did about 10000 kms per month and would completely chop out the inside edges of a set of front tyres in that time. Brake pads and rotors were also pretty much used up every second month.

My tip is that purchase price will play a big part in what vehicles you'll see as police cars in the near future.

Resale on whatever is selected won't be any worse that what the department was getting for the Commodore/Falcon sedans when they came off the road. Quite simply, no one wants them anymore.

Kable72 · 18-03-2016, 09:12 AM

Snip..

The Monty · 18-03-2016, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ozpacman

The latest Qld Police Bulletin has an article on an evaluation of Hyundai Sonata sedans as a replacement for general duties sedans. They have placed three of them at stations in the south east corner to determine how they perform.

Obviously they wouldn't be used for highway patrol duties but they may go okay in the generals role - time will tell.

Police work is hard on vehicles though. Several years ago I worked in a smaller sized station in the Far North and one of my areas of responsibility was looking after our three car fleet which was generally two sedans and a divisional van.

No spanner work or anything, my role was just to ensure that fluids and tyre pressures etc were monitored and the service schedule was maintained.

The sedans (BF's) did about 10000 kms per month and would completely chop out the inside edges of a set of front tyres in that time. Brake pads and rotors were also pretty much used up every second month.

My tip is that purchase price will play a big part in what vehicles you'll see as police cars in the near future.

Resale on whatever is selected won't be any worse that what the department was getting for the Commodore/Falcon sedans when they came off the road. Quite simply, no one wants them anymore.

Id hate to see how quickly our Aurions go through tyres and balljoints....

Sprintey · 19-03-2016, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by malazn mafia

The Police should buy Geelong and Broadmeadows assembly plants, build Police Falcons and Territories using convict labour. Voila, no more high labour costs, union strikes, and prisoners are finally good for something instead of being on paid vacation... Hell, we could even become viable exporters again and beat the Chinese and Thais at their own game with such cheap production. Wasn't Australia itself built by convicts anyway? Worked back then, should work now, political correctness aside..,

I'm with you, as long as they name the outfit "Main Force Patrol".

nstg8a · 19-03-2016, 07:51 PM

If you did a police check I wouldn't be surprised if there's already convicts building them....

**Rallye Sport** · 20-03-2016, 06:11 PM

I'm not sure it matters what the rozzers are driving, after you've waited half an hour to get through it'll take about the same for them to arrive, if at all...
The current crop of Ford Ranger paddy wagons make me smile, we use them at work, they couldn't pull the skin off of custard let alone with a 'box' on the back, have a turning circle of a city block and chew front tyres every twenty thousand k's.
I ask myself why they use unmarked WRX's if they're not meant to persue, entrapment maybe? seen that one before...
It's the motorbikes people should be worried about, quiet, stealthy and fast, no getting away from them in a 'persuit' situation, alledgedly that is...

malazn mafia · 20-03-2016, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rallye Sport

It's the motorbikes people should be worried about, quiet, stealthy and fast, no getting away from them in a 'persuit' situation, alledgedly that is...

Bikes would be an occupational hazard. Handbrake on and officer over roof, or oil slick and officer down.

GTP-814 · 21-03-2016, 08:22 AM

The mustang passed the brake test but the auto failed after 2 laps and went into limp mode.

**sierra63** · 21-03-2016, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GTP-814

The mustang passed the brake test but the auto failed after 2 laps and went into limp mode.

Wel, they need to run the manual option then... Hmm wonder how many officers are qualified on manual. May also cause issues with simultaneous use of radio, computer, mobile phone, changing gears, unless they have the correct training of course.....

GXL078 · 21-03-2016, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sierra63

Wel, they need to run the manual option then... Hmm wonder how many officers are qualified on manual. May also cause issues with simultaneous use of radio, computer, mobile phone, changing gears, unless they have the correct training of course.....

All NSW Police vehicles are automatic due to OH&S, so they can drive and work the radio etc.

**Rallye Sport** · 21-03-2016, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Bikes would be an occupational hazard. Handbrake on and officer over roof, or oil slick and officer down.

Agreed, bikes are just a hazard on the roads full stop. I tend to think of them as speed bumps...

roddy1960 · 24-03-2016, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprintey

I'm with you, as long as they name the outfit "Main Force Patrol".

G'day , What a great idea ...Why not hunt up all the old barn find XA's XB's XC's...chuck in a few HQ's , HJ's HX's ..etc.. And have Main Force Patrol..Get the superchargers, turbochargers out as well..NOW THAT'S A PLOD FORCE to look out for...Cheers Rod..

Sprintey · 24-03-2016, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by roddy1960

G'day , What a great idea ...Why not hunt up all the old barn find XA's XB's XC's...chuck in a few HQ's , HJ's HX's ..etc.. And have Main Force Patrol..Get the superchargers, turbochargers out as well..NOW THAT'S A PLOD FORCE to look out for...Cheers Rod..

"Kick 'er in the guts, Barry."

BradEL · 25-03-2016, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Motorbreath310

I reckon NZ police will end up going with Skoda wagons. Not sure if they have anything up for evaluation, as the current VE/VF fleet will probably see them through the next 5-10 years. Still quite a few VZ's getting around too.

Last week I saw a traffic patrol Aurion, first time I can remember seeing a non Holden sedan, seen a few non-commodore Holden's around but that was the first Toyota.

**Giant Cranium** · 25-03-2016, 07:44 AM

Damn. Not even a lambo would be game to take that on

Carrion · 25-03-2016, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BradEL

Last week I saw a traffic patrol Aurion, first time I can remember seeing a non Holden sedan, seen a few non-commodore Holden's around but that was the first Toyota.

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Its funny that you found it in a Maccas car park.

The Stylist · 25-03-2016, 09:50 AM

Wonder if they've considered using the Subaru Legacy 3.6R? Decent performance, size and handling abilities with AWD etc..

roddy1960 · 25-03-2016, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sprintey

"Kick 'er in the guts, Barry."

Yep, Kick 'er in the guts is right...I'd love to kick one of them in the guts..two things would happen...I'd go fast and have a broken toe too. I wonder what they're worried about..in about 20 years all the coppers will need is either a ray gun to immobilise a villian's car or something..Slightly off topic but do you realise that with all the hype on the Mustang , not that I'd knock one back or anything BUT AMERICANS LOVE OUR FALCONS.I'm blown away by how many comment on how desirable our Falcons are.. Right at the top of the tree as resto's and such are XB 's and XC's. Some great YT's of Aussie Falcons in the U.S....Cheers Rod

Veetwin · 25-03-2016, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by xxx000

I hear the.new Mustang failed NSWP brake testing badly and over heated as well

Not the brake test, only the auto problem. I see there is a track pack for these cars in the US. That is what they should have tried.

I also read this car was not Ford supplied. they just bought one from a dealer, and also Ford is not interested in a Police special.

What would have happened if they had of been happy with it?
Would they have expected to jump the que of the 6000 orders or whatever the actual figure is.

I for one am very happy they will not be Police vehicles or Taxis.

They go like 40 bastards, for a 5.0 non supercharged engine. I was very impressed. With the new supercharger becoming available they will have over 500kw. Several youtube tests show the standard spec car we are getting do 0-100 in 4.4sec. (most tests 4.8) My brother has a Porsche and when he drove it, said this thing is quicker than my Porsche.

Don't know about the auto thing. I see there are people saying their falcons do the same thing at Qld raceway.

It will get sorted. My wifes car will not be here for a long time yet!

Veetwin · 25-03-2016, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by malazn mafia

The Police should buy Geelong and Broadmeadows assembly plants, build Police Falcons and Territories using convict labour. Voila, no more high labour costs, union strikes, and prisoners are finally good for something instead of being on paid vacation... Hell, we could even become viable exporters again and beat the Chinese and Thais at their own game with such cheap production. Wasn't Australia itself built by convicts anyway? Worked back then, should work now, political correctness aside..,

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Originally Posted by Seasoned One

good idea, I'm with you

What a great idea! I like it

ozpacman · 09-06-2016, 03:46 PM

Looks like the Hyundai Sonata will be the marked and unmarked sedan of choice for the Qld Police.

**Giant Cranium** · 09-06-2016, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ozpacman

Looks like the Hyundai Sonata will be the marked and unmarked sedan of choice for the Qld Police.

That should put fear into the bikies