Malaysian Airways Flight 370 - Page 4

zilo · 13-03-2014, 12:48 PM

My completely unsubstantiated theory?

It could have been spying in the wrong air space and blown out of the sky.
(Similar to the commercial jet that the chinese shot down a few years ago?)

As I recall it was denied for ages then the yanks came clean about it in the end.

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 13-03-2014, 01:08 PM

It doesn't make sense to me that the aircraft broke up in flight, either from a catastrophic structural failure or an explosion of some type.

For a start, if there was an explosion that tore the aircraft apart, then it would make sense that this would have been the cause of the loss of all communication with and from the aircraft. And therefore, the last known location of the aircraft should be a good indicator of where debris would be found.

If the aircraft broke up in flight, the debris field would be quite large, especially given the aircraft was cruising at 30,000+ feet at the time. And whilst the exact location is not known, it shouldn't be too difficult to find a large debris field.

Therefore, I believe that the aircraft was still somewhat in a flyable (but not necessarily controllable) condition when it impacted. If you have a look at the Air France A330, Flight 447 incident from a few years ago, I think the similarities are obvious, excluding the ACARS messaging. Therefore my summation of the Malaysian Airlines incident is that the aircraft hit the water at either a severe nose down attitude (and therefore a lack of debris) or at a high rate of descent (ie as experienced in a stall situation).

Now, the interesting question is what were the series of events that lead to that scenario in the first place? Terrorist activities, disgruntled pilots (as per Silkair Flight 185), loss of situation awareness after a complete power failure, etc?

Interesting one to watch the development of.

Craig H

Yellow_Festiva · 13-03-2014, 04:06 PM

I'm wondering something.

The largest part they have found is 24x27m. What part of a plane would be that big? Or have they just placed a box around the irregular shape (such as body and wing stumps) and given it those dimensions?...

Perhaps the explosion caused the fuselage to open flat, much like a can exploding???

We will know soon enough. Hope they have found it and not just some rubbish tossed from a passing cargo ship.

Road_Warrior · 13-03-2014, 04:12 PM

Now they're saying a search plane can't find any trace of the items referred to in the Chinese satellite photo.

Yellow_Festiva · 13-03-2014, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Now they're saying a search plane can't find any trace of the items referred to in the Chinese satellite photo.

You're not serious.....

TheSneakiness · 13-03-2014, 04:26 PM

Malaysia is doing a real good cover up job here, they have the information, why are they not open to releasing it to help their cause?

At the moment they are doing a massive disservice to themselves and the industry.

XWGT · 13-03-2014, 04:29 PM

To be fair the photo is a few days old now, the wreckage has most probably sunk?

BHDOGS · 13-03-2014, 04:34 PM

Malaysia doing a good cover up job id believe there just useless and cant find it rather then there expert secret keepers so many conspiracy theory's ill say its aliens they abducted them from there secret moon base and are breeding a hybrid alien army to invade earth.

CoupeKing · 13-03-2014, 04:51 PM

The satellite pic is around 4 days old, and thats when they discovered it. As someone mentioned, its probably sunk. But if its still afloat, and only drifted 1 km/h, then its already at least 100 clicks from the original picture. Well at least thats how the theory goes.

A Malaysian Fisherman has probably got it in toe behind his trawler, bound for the Islands of Ebay.

Road_Warrior · 13-03-2014, 05:08 PM

This is starting to get ridiculous now.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...LEFTTopStories

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U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU -2.04% Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.

Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. BA -0.99% 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.

More at the link. 5 hours of flight time after the transponder went dark could put it anywhere - if the above is true.

XBROO · 13-03-2014, 05:40 PM

Well if anything it's making us realize just how big this world is, even though sometimes it feels small. I mean out of all the technology and people in the world and we still can't find them.

05_ENFORCER · 13-03-2014, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by XBROO

Well if anything it's making us realize just how big this world is, even though sometimes it feels small. I mean out of all the technology and people in the world and we still can't find them.

I, and many more are starting to think that the main players are playing games, whether that be political, logistical tactical or pure incompetence, it will all come out in the wash......................

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MITCHAY · 13-03-2014, 06:14 PM

It's bad enough that the plane is missing and that in all likelihood those on board are dead but what has played out the last few days is embarrassing at best.

XBROO · 13-03-2014, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 05_ENFORCER

I, and many more are starting to think that the main players are playing games, whether that be political, logistical tactical or pure incompetence, it will all come out in the wash......................

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That's for sure it's just not adding up, it's the old blame game. Who is, who isn't and who's covering it up.

BENT_8 · 13-03-2014, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

This is starting to get ridiculous now.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...LEFTTopStories

More at the link. 5 hours of flight time after the transponder went dark could put it anywhere - if the above is true.

The way I read it they are talking 5 hours total flying time from KLIA.

From the last known contact they are saying 4hrs of flight or 2200nm.

Interestingly they have mentioned the Pakistan Border.

I wonder if they know how the engines were extinguished at the end of the 5 hr flight, shut down or brought down...

Road_Warrior · 13-03-2014, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

The way I read it they are talking 5 hours total flying time from KLIA.

From the last known contact they are saying 4hrs of flight or 2200nm.

Interestingly they have mentioned the Pakistan Border.

I wonder if they know how the engines were extinguished at the end of the 5 hr flight, shut down or brought down...

Its amazing what information you can dig up purely from an internet search.

Apparently Malaysia Airlines got defensive and ****** when they were accused of under-fueling MH370 causing it to crash - they've responded and said the aircraft had enough fuel on board to support 8 hours of flight.

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 13-03-2014, 07:27 PM

None of this latest "theory" makes sense. Ok, so the aircraft flew on for another few hours after it left Malaysian radar control, but never showed up on any other radar coverage, irrespective of which direction it went....????

Craig H

blueoval · 13-03-2014, 07:33 PM

sorry if this has been reposted
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...-1226854092765

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 13-03-2014, 08:12 PM

For those who are interested, I see that 7 are running a special tonight starting at 2030.

Craig H

Yellow_Festiva · 13-03-2014, 08:13 PM

Double post.

Yellow_Festiva · 13-03-2014, 08:13 PM

Well, we will all benefit from the industry shakeup that will ensue when this fiasco is over.

I'm sure they are already drafting new procedures and methods of operation that will reduce the confusion next time round.

burnz · 13-03-2014, 09:52 PM

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Meanwhile, 20 passengers on the missing plane are world-class electronic geeks for a major Defence contracting company that specializing in such things as weapons that disappear planes and ships for the battlefield.

sounds sus

nstg8a · 13-03-2014, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MercurySilver

how on earth were phones ringing out under the friggin sea then???

i wouldnt believe a word they say tbh

yeah
fuselage cracked...lol

Phones ringing out, and passengers being shown as being online in various chat rooms....
There's no way this thing just fell out of the sky.

Geez Louise · 13-03-2014, 10:14 PM

This has more twists and turns than any other news story I can ever remember.

It is now reported the Chinese satellite photos are not what they claimed it to be, a passenger belonged to the same group that killed all those people at a Chinese train statiion, now authorities are saying they are still looking into the ringing phones because some are still ringing (seriously...after 6days surely not! Batteries don't last that long). Updated news article.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...-1226854092765

nstg8a · 13-03-2014, 10:17 PM

I reckon they've been hijacked and flown to a secret location where. Those fore mentioned geeks are being milked for all their worth.
Or Kim Jung onion finally has a plane big enough to stick one of his archaic nukes in.

Road_Warrior · 13-03-2014, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

Phones ringing out, and passengers being shown as being online in various chat rooms....
There's no way this thing just fell out of the sky.

Source plz

nstg8a · 13-03-2014, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Source plz

Was just usual news sources, I follow most of the usual news sources on book face, and that's where I would have read it.

Il see if I can track it down.

Road_Warrior · 13-03-2014, 11:05 PM

Now 'Malaysian Authorities' are dissing the WSJ report that the plane ran for 4 hours after contact loss; that the Chinese satellite images were "wrong" and showed no wreckage; and that Malaysian Police have not searched the pilot's house.

Hrrm.

**MercurySilver** · 13-03-2014, 11:18 PM

Sources for the phone calls are out there.
One is theepochtimes.com
There's few about.

Its still not Adding up tho.

BENT_8 · 13-03-2014, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Its amazing what information you can dig up purely from an internet search.

Apparently Malaysia Airlines got defensive and ****** when they were accused of under-fueling MH370 causing it to crash - they've responded and said the aircraft had enough fuel on board to support 8 hours of flight.

When the possible destinations, based on fuel load, were first bandied about there was reference to reaching the Korean Peninsula.
If you take a look at the region on Google Earth, it would appear that a plane capable of doing KL to north Korea could reach the Iranian border.
They are now saying it flew long enough to have reached Pakistan, what neighbours Pakistan....Where did the stolen passport travellers come from...