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Old 28-05-2007, 08:58 PM   #91
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I'm one of the people who don't. I don't speed, so I don't get fined. I think that other people should think this way as well.
If you want to disobey the posted speed limit, then be prepared to pay the consequences. If you don't want to pay the consequences, then don't speed. Simple as that.
I can see by your fine selection of automobiles why you don't speed! :thebirds:
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Old 28-05-2007, 10:10 PM   #92
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I'm one of the people who don't. I don't speed, so I don't get fined. I think that other people should think this way as well.
If you want to disobey the posted speed limit, then be prepared to pay the consequences. If you don't want to pay the consequences, then don't speed. Simple as that.
Yeah ,i find it hard to believe that you have never been above the speed limit at all. Sad ,very sad life!!
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Old 28-05-2007, 10:13 PM   #93
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Sometimes if I think it an unfair situation (i.e freeway on ramps, speed limit changes etc) but not if they are speeding excessively.
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Old 28-05-2007, 11:45 PM   #94
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I flash my lights if its a revenue raiser - if they are gunning it down a road with a school on it or something like a d*ckhead no way - I hope they get caught!
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Old 29-05-2007, 07:34 AM   #95
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Speed being the sole cause of accidents? Bah - speed limits are arbitrary limits imposed by out of touch RTA political goons.
In defence of NSW RTA political goons, a couple of points;-

* Political parties don't set speed limits. Although speed-limits are the most 'politically sensitive' topic the transport agencies deal with.

* Arbritary speed limits, where these are one of the two primary 'defaults' were been decided on by various state and territory road agency employees based on domestic, and international 'experience' (stop laughing). These are limits defined at law, effectively passed (stamped) by each parliament after ARR Consultation process. (That we had to have two of them, and that the built-up area default shall be uniform).

* Signposted speed limits -sign design (dimensions, spacing and number) and use therof (meaning and applicability), is made in AS1742.4 of 1999, this is turn is generally referenced by state adoptions of same. Example; QLD has this section in its US inspired namesake "The Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices", in NSW we call it the "Speed Zoning Gudelines".

* The states and territories sometimes give different meaning to a speed control sign, example - a speed derestriction sign (//). This is taken by some monkeys to mean 100km/h -110km/h applies, but that is NOT the case under AS1742.4 of 1999 (no speed-limit applies to the road beyond the sign) or the governing UN Ownership of it held in UN Convention (End of all local prohibitions imposed on moving vehicles). One such state prostituting the meaning of the sign was WA, their speed zoning guidelines now remove the (//) in recognition of requirment and legal impact.

* Road authorities will increase use of the R4-12 "End Speed Limit" sign, this falls back to the 'rural default', but a driver can expect the road beyond to have quality issues affecting safety on its length, example; poor camber, hidden driveways or intersections, soft edges, rail crossings etc. It is a form of speed derstriction UP TO the 'rural default' as applied. (Typically 100km/h but maybe 80km/h one day). This sign shall be used on the worse of the worse rural roads basically.

* A recent ATSB study, a year or three old finds that 130km/h could be applied on some national highway lengths without affecting overall network safety. This would be done to improve national productivity levels.

* I do expect my jurisdiction will again use (//) on some high standard remote NSW western highways, but not to roads or tracks leading off the highway, unless another (//) is posted. Old (//) signs are being removed to enable this one day. I expect an improvement in the fatigue and distance relationship coupled with fewer crashes owing the lessening of the bunching-up effect caused by a deemed too slow 100-110km/h speed limit in that environment.

* NSW freeways will not go higher than 110km/h until median barriers are fully placed, and U-Turn bays have a gatelock system in place. Too much risk otherwise on these busy routes. NSW recently increased the fine (and demerit) for doing an illegal U-Turn, it is still too weak in my view, but an improvement.

Just what speed limit do you want? for what road category and why? Indeed why a 'speed-limit' at all??
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Old 29-05-2007, 03:39 PM   #96
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i do if its a nice ford.lol
i dont flash people in rice car cos there just gay.lol
haha thats great

i wont flash for a school zone, residential area or similar...shouldnt be speeding there anyways

i will if its a highway and i can see everycar coming and behind me......NO ONE deserves a PASS GO save $200 fine free ticket from me, i got no points to surrender
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Old 29-05-2007, 04:22 PM   #97
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95% of the time a flash of the lights is to indicate things such as fallen branches not speed cameras around here.
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Old 29-05-2007, 04:28 PM   #98
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95% of the time a flash of the lights is to indicate things such as fallen branches not speed cameras around here.
where's 'around here'?
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Old 29-05-2007, 04:47 PM   #99
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Dandenongs, live and work in the hills and especially on a day like today someone flashing their lights can give you that extra bit of time to stop comfortably if some Works guys are just getting to a tree etc.
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Old 29-05-2007, 04:48 PM   #100
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I won't flash unless you're coming toward an accident, or a hazardous situation.

Speed cameras... meh, won't flash. Don't like it, stiff. That's how I've always been.
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Old 29-05-2007, 08:54 PM   #101
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Just what speed limit do you want? for what road category and why? Indeed why a 'speed-limit' at all??
on interstate highways it should be unlimited. I mean in Germany they can do whatever speed tickles there fancy (obviously on specially made roads), but here we are in a country almost the size of the entire continent of europe, and were stuck at 110? its stupid, and its not like we have huge mountians to go around. its almost all flat, straight lines. But then again, who would see that chinese lady in her 1984 toyota corona doing 180+km/h?
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Old 29-05-2007, 09:16 PM   #102
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those of u tht qoute believe speeding is worng mayb so but i belive your soft everybody speeds
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Old 29-05-2007, 10:34 PM   #103
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Speed camera's, Police with radar guns etc etc are a road hazard, so why not warn other drivers of them. Whether you are speeding or not, its a natural reaction to hit your brakes when seeing a camera/cop, this in turn becomes a hazard for the person following any car.
Add that to the fact the government make enough money from me as a tax payer and you have my answer in whether i flash or not.
REALITY- There will always be people that speed, its human nature
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Old 30-05-2007, 12:19 AM   #104
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i do for speed cameras and stuff but not for boose buses drink drivers deserve to get busted!
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Old 30-05-2007, 11:38 AM   #105
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I got booked for "illegal use of a warning system" a couple of years back. $140 fine but no points. I was young and flashed all the time, but now I'm more selective when I do it. (I certainly make sure there are no cops hiding in front waiting to book!)
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Old 30-05-2007, 01:54 PM   #106
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I can see by your fine selection of automobiles why you don't speed! :thebirds:
Yeah, well believe it or not, they are all capable of going over the speed limit :P

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Yeah ,i find it hard to believe that you have never been above the speed limit at all. Sad ,very sad life!!
I have never said that I have never been over the speed limit. I will speed if the situation warrant it, such as overtaking cars and trucks on a single lane highway. I sure as hell am not going to spend longer than necessary on the wrong side of the road.
If I do get caught, then it is no ones fault but mine for traveling faster than the posted speed limit. I will pay the fine, I might be unhappy about it, but I sure won't be hopping on to a forum venting my frustration at myself for doing the wrong thing and trying to blame "revenue raising camera's" or "over-zealous cops."

I have been driving the EL for 8 years now and I pretty much know exactly what speed it is doing without having to look at the speedo simply from the sounds I can hear, e.g. revs, wind, etc, meaning I can concentrate more on the road than the speedo.
The Peugeot has a built in speed limiter that you can set to what ever speed you wish. I use this regularly when I am driving it and it guarantees that I won't go over the speed limit. Otherwise, I'll use the cruise control on it.
The XE, well that is sitting in a shed on someone else's property, so it can't speed at the moment.

I drive mainly country roads due to where I live. One of these roads is signposted at 90km/h. It would be nice if it was 110km/h, but as it is 90, I'll travel at 90.
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Old 30-05-2007, 02:05 PM   #107
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I always flash, Always wait till you see the white's of their eyes as you may do as my cousin did one fine evening and flashed an on coming cop car who pulled him over for it
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Old 30-05-2007, 06:37 PM   #108
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I will flash a warning but for me it also depends on the circumstances. i.e.

1. only where oncoming traffic lanes are separated by a retainer wall in case I accidentally flash an undercover cop car - so they can't come after me!

2. only if the oncoming car is not speeding ridiculously in which case, they deserve to get caught.

3. only where I think the camera placement is purely revenue raising.

ps. sometimes, I don't flash holdens or rice burners (depending on what mood I'm in :-),
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Old 31-05-2007, 12:01 AM   #109
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il always flash for a camera if there is one, i don't speed deliberately but some times you dont even notice your drifting over and sure enough thats when you'l be done. on the other hand i cant stand seeing people flogging it down roads with total disregard for other peoples safety il give them a flash when there isnt a camera just to see them hit the skids, damn bogan VN's
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Old 31-05-2007, 02:13 PM   #110
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It is illegal to flash your light to tell other drivers
if there is a radar system is operation.

This will cost you 3 points off your license can't remember how much the fine was now if you were to get caught,
i always wait till i pass for about 2 to 3 km out of sight
then i flash and warn them.
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Old 01-06-2007, 03:33 PM   #111
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It is illegal to flash your light to tell other drivers
if there is a radar system is operation.

This will cost you 3 points off your license can't remember how much the fine was now if you were to get caught,
i always wait till i pass for about 2 to 3 km out of sight
then i flash and warn them.
In what state?
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Old 01-06-2007, 09:22 PM   #112
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the radio stations on the sunshine coast got into trouble a few years ago for addvertising the areas where radars had been spotted.

they used the theory that if they told drivers roughly where radars had been spotted then the drivers would slow down on that section of road and so it must be safer then just leaving them to speed on through .

the QLD police had to agree with the theory and allowed them to continue the traffic messages.
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In what state?
In NSW.
As i know someone who flash and get caught i was just behind him,
i ask him why did the cops pull him over he said
that becos he flash his lights to warn other drivers.
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Old 02-06-2007, 10:43 AM   #114
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It is illegal to flash your light to tell other drivers
if there is a radar system is operation.

This will cost you 3 points off your license can't remember how much the fine was now if you were to get caught,
i always wait till i pass for about 2 to 3 km out of sight
then i flash and warn them.
I thought they could only charge you for using high beam in a built up area?? I was told you would be ok if you just turned your lights on then off again.

(not that I realy care, I am allowed to have a detector )
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:00 AM   #115
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Speed cameras dont slow drivers down... People just end up recieving a fine in the mail.. (Is different if the locations are advertised) but where i live they just park the pricks anywhere... If someone flashed me to warn of a camera, id slow down whether i was speeding or not... Now if the police want motorists to slow down, there job is done for them... If they dont like this then what are they really putting speed cameras out there for...?
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Old 04-06-2007, 09:11 PM   #116
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I Always do, its a nice gesture & yes you can get booked for doing so.
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I Always do, its a nice gesture & yes you can get booked for doing so.
Same here, I usually flash my lights when traffic car is pulled over try to pick up his quoter of tickets. And its a damn good idea of radio stations to inform the public when they are too! :evil3:
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I would have thought that the Government would have embraced people who flashed there lights to alert motorists of speed cameras. As the governments logic is that speed causes accidents, now if a motorists flashes you, you presume there is a camera up ahead and so you check your speed and slow down if necessary. Therefore as you have stopped speeding in theory you have averted an accident ;) Now if the government is consistent they should encourage motorists to flash there lights and warn other motorists of speed cameras ;)
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Old 05-06-2007, 12:43 PM   #119
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I will flash 8 out of ten
main reason:

cops whom hide their vehicles to catch others out,should be in plain view 100% of the time and not behind some 30metres retaining wall on a hwy purely hidden from any view of anyone.

other then that i will flash only if theres a accident or hazard on the road
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Bloody oath i flash my lights when i see a camera, i have been saved by other considerate people doing so and its just common courtesy, only wowsers would disagree.i would rather do a coupla ks over and make my own way instead of being caught behind losers who go under the limit it causes roadrage,just overtake them. :
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