April vehicle sales

[Bud Bud]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

How many Sportwagons do Holden sell per month? V8s also account for more than 20% of their sales last I heard. Take them away from the ~3000 units units Holden pushed last month and it starts to look ugly.

Rubbish! Holden maintained the advantage they had with their simple uncomplicated run of the mill V8 and introduced a sportwagon after they could not see any benefit maintaining a regular wagon so they could be in this position now. Considering the fact that the wagon does not come from the long wheel base, they have also done well not to kill this segment off either at least for the time being.

On the other hand Ford did not update their wagon and then killed it of. Same could be said about the V8 option along with a long wheel base anything. It was Ford that engineered the position they are in and nothing to do with Holden. No point chucking rocks at Holden for having a bigger line up for customers to choose from and then calling unfair play.

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

No, the list of sales for the first 3 months, seems to indicate people are still buying cars in near record numbers. But as the Falcon is just one of literally hundreds of cars available to chose from, I dont see why people expect it to sell more than it is. Regardless of how good of a car people think the Falcon is, it suffers from a few disadvantages (main one being volume production= lower possible sale price to recoup investment), that others on the list dont

Pos Model 2011
1 Mazda3 11,159
2 Holden Commodore 10,644
3 Toyota Corolla 9,712
4 Toyota Hilux 9,411
5 Holden Cruze 7,446
6 Hyundai i30 6,705
7 Nissan Navara 6,586
8 Hyundai Getz 5,086
9 Mitsubishi Lancer 4,980
10 Toyota Yaris 4,629
11 Mitsubishi Triton 4,496
12 Mazda2 4,475
13 Ford Falcon 4,448
14 Subaru Impreza 4,421
15 Toyota Camry 4,229
16 Toyota Prado 3,831
17 Ford Fiesta 3,764
18 Subaru Forester 3,353
19 Toyota RAV4 3,345
20 Suzuki Swift 3,296
21 Toyota Kluger 3,182
22 VW Golf 3,157
23 Ford Focus 3,140
24 Holden Barina 2,889
25 Ford Ranger 2,789
26 Holden Colorado 2,652
27 Toyota Land Cruiser 2,587
28 Hyundai ix35 2,573
29 Ford Territory 2,533
30 Nissan X-Trail 2,497
31 Nissan Dualis 2,438
32 Mazda CX-7 2,296
33 Holden Commodore Ute 2,220
34 Toyota Aurion 2,190
35 Mazda BT-50 2,135
36 VW Tiguan 2,053
37 Holden Captiva7 2,022
38 Mitsubishi Outlander 1,987
39 Ford Mondeo 1,961
40 Nissan Micra 1,829
41 Honda Civic 1,794
42 Ford Falcon Ute 1,651
43 Kia Rio 1,643
44 Hyundai i20 1,622
45 Honda Jazz 1,617
46 Toyota Land Cruiser Ute 1,590
47 Mazda6 1,499
48 Honda CR-V 1,422
49 Mitsubishi Pajero 1,420
50 Mitsubishi ASX 1,405
51 Kia Cerato/Koup 1,398
52 Subaru Outback 1,352
53 Subaru Liberty 1,335
54 Mercedes C Class 1,283
55 Isuzu D-Max 1,225
56 BMW 3 Series 1,194
57 VW Polo 1,149
58 Nissan Tiida 1,092
59 Honda Accord Euro 1,088
60 Ford Escape 1,085
61 Hyundai Santa Fe 1,077
62 Suzuki Alto 1,046
63 Nissan Patrol 1,035
64 Great Wall V240 989
65 Hyundai i45 976 0.4%

This is the biggest worry imho, there is no Ford anything in the top ten. Even Hyundai gets a second mention. This needs to be fixed now before it is too late, and I would settle for a Ford anything at this stage.

So it begs the question, are we looking at this the wrong way?, if the Falcon is on the nose to the general buying public in Australia, should Ford now be looking deep into its arsenal of cars to change the fortunes of its woes in Australia, is there anything else in the world of Ford that could make a big impact in here like the Cruze or are people still pinning its hopes on the Falcon?

Bud Bud

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by Bud Bud

Rubbish! Holden maintained the advantage they had with their simple uncomplicated run of the mill V8 and introduced a sportwagon after they could not see any benefit maintaining a regular wagon so they could be in this position now.

So what's "rubbish"? That was exactly my point. Take them away from the numbers and you start to see where Ford has gone wrong.

[mcnews]

Hilux....
Triton.....
Navara....

Shudder.....

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by mcnews

Hilux....
Triton.....
Navara....

Shudder.....

It is bizzare...seems people want a vehicle that can do it all.

Will be interesting to see if they become repeat buyers.

[mcnews]

Apart from drive or handle like a car made this century should... Have to be fleet sales, as nobody would drive one by choice would they :-)

[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by Brazen

My wife's department are replacing their fleet of Corollas due to this with Cruze, she works in the procurement side of things and knows this well. Its public information so im sure its on the web somewhere.

This is only Commonwealth govt policy. States and other fleets have their own rules, and I think the states would buy a lot more cars as they are more in service delivery.
the policy is positive for Ford as well, as it forces departments to keep to Australian where possible so Falcon and Territory win from it. Again this is commonwealth and not states.

Government (federal and state) only purchased 34,000 passenger vehicles last year (one of the lowest on record). Thats 2833 a month.

The Fed policy is

a. Passenger Vehicles must be made in Australia (refer Table 1);
b. Where there is no operationally suitable Australian-made alternative, passenger vehicles that have been imported by an Australian manufacturer with an engine capacity of less than 2,400 cubic centimetres may be considered (refer Table 2); and
c. Passenger vehicles other than (a) or (b) can be selected where there is a demonstrated operational need.

Table 1 has Ford = Falcon, G series and Territory
Holden = Commodore, Berlina, Calias, Caprice, Statesman, and Cruze
Toyota = Petrol Camry, Hybrid Camry and Aurion

Table 2 has Ford= Fiesta, Focus Petrol, Focus Diesel, Mondeo Wagon Petrol, Mondeo wagon diesel
Holden = Barina, epica, Captiva
Toyota = Yaris, Corolla, Prius.

I would hazard a guess that Government purchases of any of the cars above amount to no more than a couple of hundred of each, each month.

[Bud Bud]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

So what's "rubbish"? That was exactly my point. Take them away from the numbers and you start to see where Ford has gone wrong.

Sorry I thought you meant it was ugly for Holden???

Bud Bud

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by mcnews

Apart from drive or handle like a car made this century should... Have to be fleet sales, as nobody would drive one by choice would they :-)

Yeah because everyone wants an F6 ute and Territory in the shed, how can you question someone choice when buying a new car? They buy to suit their needs, not yours or anyone elses.

[SumoDog68]

Originally Posted by mcnews

Apart from drive or handle like a car made this century should... Have to be fleet sales, as nobody would drive one by choice would they :-)

I ve got d4d single cab tray Hilux and it is great at carrying stuff and lots of it . That is what it was designed for :-)
Drives ok and handles much better than my older utes used to. Done 100k with oil changes and brakes and tyres replaced , no other issues and never babied in use .Good quality product Hilux...

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by Polyal

So DASH, as a numbers man, if the LPi falcon is tier one, offers more space and practicality and costs the same (maybe a smidge less) to run then what car would you choose as a fleet controller?

I hope the LPi ute can get back some of the hilux diesel sales (I assume)...maybe they went diesel because of the running costs, not so much clearance etc.

Honestly, local councils around me seem to have only hilux's now as utes.

Brazen, how did you find that info on the Tiers?

Depends i only have the details on the old FG gas,

But lets compare an FG XR6 Egas to a 2011 Cruze

FG 1 XR6 Egas
CO2 emissions 240
Green House rating 5.5
Air Polution Rating 5.0
3 Stars rating

FG 2 XR6 Egas
Claimed CO2 emmission between 204 - 211...
Rating unknown

Series 2 Cruze 1.8 Auto
CO2 emissions 175
4 Stars Green Rating

Series 2 Cruize 1.4T Diesel Auto
CO2 emissions 164
4 stars Green Rating


We have to remember with all the talk of a carbon tax fleet operators will be looking for cars that emit the least amount of emmissions.

I would say the Cruze will do better then Falcon expecially with the different in CO2. Maybe Ford should have built the focus here, coz I have a feeling Holdens going to go gangbusters with the Cruze thanks to the Government support!

[Wretched]

Will post more soon. Got to step out for a few min.

[CODE] Ford 2011 2010
Ford Escape 201 98
Ford Falcon 1,457 2,763
Ford Falcon Ute 469 794
Ford Fiesta 946 857
Ford Focus 912 1,025
Ford Mondeo 400 296
Ford Ranger 4X2 309 460
Ford Ranger 4X4 965 634
Ford Territory 599 1,085
Ford Transit 137 129
Ford Transit Bus 39 2
Ford Transit C/C31 49
Ford Total 6,465 8,192

Change -21%


Holden 2011 2010
Holden Astra 0 0
Holden Astra Convertible0 0
Holden Barina 426 914
Holden Barina Spark 376 0
Holden Caprice 147 125
Holden Captiva 5 281 317
Holden Captiva 7 752 778
Holden Colorado 4X2 101 178
Holden Colorado 4X4 626 874
Holden Combo 29 44
Holden Commodore 3,075 3,165
Holden Cruze 2,582 2,514
Holden Epica 68 206
Holden Monaro 0 0
Holden Statesman 0 37
Holden Utility 4X2 650 812
Holden Viva 0 0
Holden Total 9,113 9,964

Change -8.5%

Toyota 2011 2010
Toyota Aurion 627 1,024
Toyota Avensis 0 39
Toyota Camry (4 cyl) 1,577 1,830
Toyota Coaster 31 32
Toyota Corolla 2,458 2,829
Toyota FJ Cruiser 152 0
Toyota Hiace Bus 189 170
Toyota Hiace Van 450 614
Toyota Hilux 4X2 973 1,271
Toyota Hilux 4X4 1,916 2,148
Toyota Kluger 895 898
Toyota Landcruiser PU/CC524 542
Toyota Landcruiser Wagon647 644
Toyota Prado 910 1,488
Toyota Prius 58 179
Toyota RAV4 940 1,020
Toyota Rukus 102 0
Toyota Tarago 69 170
Toyota Yaris 1,165 1,799
Toyota Total 13,683 16,697

Change -18.1%
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[jpd80]

Originally Posted by csv8

As I have said before, the FG2 had better be really good. Or Falcon is sadly doomed..The FG2 needs to look very different to FG1 and have much more kit .Now flame me Road Warrior!!!!

Here's a little clue, if FG II was to be completely different to FG I,
it wouldn't be called "FG" it would be called "FH"

[Road_Warrior]

Or just MY12.

[bobthebilda]

Cruze aint canabalising commodore sales, its just canabalising epica sales
Holden Cruze 2,582 2,514
Holden Epica 68 206

Those combined Broadmeadows numbers Falcon 1457, Ute 469, Territory 599 = 2525, are worrisome, in that they would not be high enough to dent the current stock levels, even with a reduced manufacturing schedule.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

Cruze aint canabalising commodore sales, its just canabalising epica sales
Holden Cruze 2,582 2,514
Holden Epica 68 206

Those combined Broadmeadows numbers Falcon 1457, Ute 469, Territory 599 = 2525, are worrisome, in that they would not be high enough to dent the current stock levels, even with a reduced manufacturing schedule.

Territory should have a good month in June...

Thats if they can get them out to dealers (they should have been selling them by now)

LPi will give them 400 - 500 sales across Falcon sedan and ute...

I predict August will see

Falcon Sedan 2000 units
Falcon Ute 950 units
Territory Wagon 1300 units

which should see them back in the black but really they need 5500 - 6000 sales a month to continue manufacturing.

[vztrt]

http://www.caradvice.com.au/117477/a...ures-analysis/

April 2011 new vehicle sales figures analysis
By Alborz Fallah | May 4th, 2011

April has been a slow month for new vehicle sales with an 8.8 percent decline compared with the same time last year. In total, 72,214 vehicles were sold in April and the minor decline has been attributed to the timing of the ANZAC Day, Easter and school holidays.

Toyota was once again the dominant brand, however its market share fell from more than 20 percent in April 2010 to 18.4 percent. The Corolla also slumped in the small car segment finishing fourth behind Mazda3, Holden Cruze and Hyundai i30.

The big winner this month was Hyundai which came in third place ahead of Ford and Mazda, thanks to particularly strong performances by Getz, ix35, i45 and i30. Ford managed to keep Mazda in fifth, however sales of its iconic Falcon dropped to just 1,457 units. Compared with April 2010, it’s a significant drop of 1,306 units.

Mercedes-Benz beat BMW while Lexus sales went down marginally. The new Lexus CT 200h found 175 buyers in April, beating the Mini Cooper and Audi A1. Chinese car makers Great Wall (711 units) and new-comer Chery (165) continued to prove that cut-throat pricing is still a great marketing strategy.

Saab also saw 17 vehicles blip on the radar with the brand’s relaunch into Australia now well underway. Despite the premium price tag, Mercedes-Benz managed to sell more medium-sized cars (C-Class models) than almost anyone (excluding Toyota with the Camry).

The Hyundai ix35 performed exceptionally well coming very close to knocking of the ever-popular Subaru Forester from the compact SUV winner’s list.

A few companies did noticeably better this April compared to last, especially Mitsubishi, Hyundai and Volkswagen. As for the losers, Ford’s market share went down from 10.1 to 8.7 April to April, while Toyota suffered a similar drop. Holden was the only one of the big three that improved its market share over this period.

Year to date both Toyota and Holden have lost around one percent market share but Ford has kept about on par. Honda’s sales have once again declined with the company going from four percent market share this time last year to 3.1 year-to-date in 2011.

[Resurrection]

Originally Posted by DASH GT

EcoLPi will be on sale in July, the question is who will buy them?

Stupid question. I will get one.

Originally Posted by csv8

Will EcoLPi sell in June ?? or will people wait until FG2 is released, in October. Seems a strange decision to put a new engine in an"old model car" ,when a new model is coming?????

FG has just been released in 2008. There is no need (nor is there money) to do a radical change so soon. VE Commodore has been the same since 2006 and is not due for a major styling change until late 2013.

[vztrt]

http://www.caradvice.com.au/117454/n...es-april-2011/

April 2011 Australian New Car Industry Sales Figures

1 Toyota 13683
2 Holden 9113
3 Hyundai 6857
4 Ford 6465
5 Mazda 6346
6 Mitsubishi 5281
7 Nissan 4248
8 Volkswagen 3032
9 Subaru 2457
10 Honda 2445
11 Kia 2014
12 Suzuki 1677
13 Mercedes-Benz 1598
14 BMW 1402
15 Audi 1067
16 Great Wall Motors 711
17 Peugeot 454
18 Isuzu Ute 443
19 Land Rover 429
20 Volvo 407
21 Lexus 392
22 Jeep 382
23 Renault 208
24 Chery 165
25 Mini 161
26 Proton 132
27 Dodge 129
28 Skoda 123
29 Citroen 122
30 Alfa Romeo 110
31 Porsche 109
32 Fiat 101
33 Ssangyong 96
34 Jaguar 62
35 Chrysler 48
36 Smart 21
37 Saab 17
38 Ferrari 14
39 Maserati 14
40 Hyundai Trucks 12
41 Aston Martin 11
42 Bentley 3
43 Caterpillar 3
44 Lotus 3
45 Lamborghini 2
46 Rolls Royce 0

Light Car Segment Winners :

* Hyundai Getz
* Mazda2
* Toyota Yaris

Small Car Segment Winners:

* Mazda3
* Holden Cruze
* Hyundai i30

Medium Car Segment Winners:

* Toyota Camry
* Mercedes-Benz C-Class
* Hyundai i45

Large Car Segment Winners:

* Holden Commodore
* Ford Falcon
* Toyota Aurion

Upper Large Car Segment Winners:

* Holden Caprice
* Chrysler 300C
* Mercedes-Benz S-Class

People Mover Segment Winners:

* Kia Carnival
* Hyundai iMAX
* Dodge Journey

Sports Segment Winners:

* Mercedes-Benz E-Class Coupe/Convertible
* BMW 1 Series Coupe/Convertible
* BMW 3 Series Coupe/Convertible

Supercars Segment Winners:

* Porsche 911
* Maserati (tied)
* Ferrari (tied)

SUV Compact Segment Winners:

* Subaru Forester
* Hyundai ix35
* Toyota RAV4

SUV Medium Segment Winners:

* Toyota Prado
* Toyota Kluger
* Holden Captiva

Large SUV Segment Winners:

* Toyota Landcruiser Wagon
* Nissan Patrol Wagon

SUV Luxury Segment Winners:

* Audi Q5
* BMW X5
* BMW X1

[vztrt]

http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-new...504-1e7qp.html

Car wars: sales winners and losers
Jez Spinks
May 4, 2011 - 2:02PM

Falcon woes continued in April but high-end sports car makers such as Ferrari and Porsche were biggest winners in latest sales results.

The Ford Falcon has fallen out of the top 10 best-selling cars list for the second time this year.

Official industry figures for April revealed another poor month for Ford Australia's large car, which with 1457 sales slumped to nearly half of its volume for the corresponding period in 2010.

It was outsold in April by vehicles it was once well ahead of, including the Toyota Camry, Hyundai Getz and Mitsubishi Lancer.
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The Falcon also finished outside the top 10 sales at the start of the year, though Ford would have been less concerned about that result as January is commonly a slow month for fleet sales.

Holden's Commodore just pipped the Mazda3 to top spot, by 3075 sales to 3044. The Japanese small car retains a slender lead in the overall sales race, however.

The Commodore's total is a relatively low figure for a best-seller and is indicative of a month that was generally disappointing for the industry.

Every passenger-car segment recorded a drop in sales, while only compact SUVs and luxury SUVs achieved growth compared with April last year.

The overall market fell 8.8 per cent (or 7187 vehicles) compared to April 2010 and 3.2 per cent when comparing year to date figures (down 10,550 vehicles to 322,678).

Supercars and sports cars costing more than $200,000 had a bumper month, though.

Ferrari sold 14 models in April - nine more than the same month last year - to boost year-on-year growth to 42 per cent.

The second-generation Cayenne SUV continues to lift Porsche sales - up 105 per cent for April and 24 per cent year on year.

Aston Martin (+38%) and Maserati (+27%) also performed strongly in April.

The new Giulietta hatchback (54 sales) was the biggest contributor to Alfa's 80 per cent surge in April.

Volkswagen's Czech brand, Skoda, continues to make progress with an 89 per cent increase for the month, though with only 529 vehicles sold to date in 2011 it still has much work to do before becoming a significant player in the market.

Mercedes-Benz's city brand, Smart, was April's biggest loser, with a 64 per cent slump - with year to date sales faring little better at minus 60 per cent.

BMW's small-car brand, Mini, is also struggling in 2011 despite the arrival of the new Countryman crossover. April sales were down 34 per cent; for the year, sales have decreased by more than a quarter.

Jaguar's sales for the month fell by a third, affected by the loss of what was its cheapest model - the X-Type.

All three of the Chrysler Group's brands - Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep - recorded negative results for April, down 32, 15 and 22 per cent respectively.

Ford's 21 per cent decline for April put it ninth in the top 10 losers table, just ahead of Honda. Year to date figures are better for the local car maker: it's down just 3.3 per cent.

Toyota was the only brand to reach five figures for April sales (13,683), though the result will be tempered by the fact sales had still dropped 18 per cent - with a year to date loss of 10 per cent.

Top 10 best-sellers: April 2011
Holden Commodore 3075
Mazda3 3044
Toyota HiLux 2889
Holden Cruze 2582
Hyundai i30 2531
Toyota Corolla 2458
Mitsubishi Triton 1840
Hyundai Getz 1717
Toyota Camry 1577
Mitsubishi Lancer 1468

Top 10 April winners
Ferrari +180.0% +42.4
Porsche +105.7% +23.6
Skoda +89.2% +55.6
Alfa Romeo +80.3% +24.0
Great Wall +66.1% +30.2
Ssangyong +43.3% +2.9
Aston Martin +37.5% -8.6
Citroen +32.4% -10.1
Maserati +27.3% +2.2
Land Rover +17.5% +22.1

Top 10 April losers
Smart -64.4% -59.6
Bentley -50.0% level (18 cars)
Lotus -40.0% -26.3
Mini -34.3% -26.4
Jaguar -32.6% -39
Chrysler -32.4% +2.3
Subaru -23.6% -1.8%
Jeep -22.4% +6.1
Ford -21.1% -3.3
Honda -20.2% -25.8

[vztrt]

If anyone is interested in the US sales.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/05/03/b...digit-edition/

COMPANIES
GM 232,538
Chrysler Group 117,225
BMW Group 25,247
Ford Mo Co 189,778
Jaguar Land Rover NA 4,231
Nissan NA 71,526
American Honda 124,799
Toyota Mo Co 159,540

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

Cruze aint canabalising commodore sales, its just canabalising epica sales
Holden Cruze 2,582 2,514
Holden Epica 68 206

Those combined Broadmeadows numbers Falcon 1457, Ute 469, Territory 599 = 2525, are worrisome, in that they would not be high enough to dent the current stock levels, even with a reduced manufacturing schedule.

209 vehicles per day x 5 days x 4 weeks = 4180 vehicles.
To do that and reduce current stock levels, sales would have to increase to:
Falcon: 2200
Territory: 1300
Ute 1100

That makes 4600 meaning the backlog could be cleared
at roughly 500/month x 6 month = 3,000 vehicles gone.

[Windsor220]

Is the new Territory out yet?

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Windsor220

Is the new Territory out yet?

May it will be out. There has been a delay with a software glitch so it might be in a week or two.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

Stupid question. I will get one.



FG has just been released in 2008. There is no need (nor is there money) to do a radical change so soon. VE Commodore has been the same since 2006 and is not due for a major styling change until late 2013.

Stupid you say?? Really??

Considering most LPG purchases in the past were Wagon / Utes, Ford no longer builds a wagon, yes theres LPG sedans and Utes, but with the increasing cost of LPG many people are looking at alternatives, e.g. Diesel Mondeo's or Diesel Rangers. I reckon LPG probably equated to 75% of wagon sales, if not more, and we all know wagons = 400 cars a month (well they did towards the end). Thats 300 less gas cars that are no longer going to be ordered. So even though gas will pump sales, theres not going to be an increase to the amount we have seen in decline over the last 12 months.

That added with the fact that lots of Fleet customers have to change to alternative manufacturers due to a lag in Ford releasing the new LPG (yes its nearly been 12 months since they could physically build LPG cars), then this creates another problem. Will these customers come back to Ford? Or are they happy with where they have ended up?

[Wretched]

Some more figures
[CODE] Volkswagen 2011 2010
Volkswagen Amarok 4X2 0 0
Volkswagen Amarok 4X4 81 0
Volkswagen Caddy 121 118
Volkswagen Caddy Life/Camper 26 26
Volkswagen Caravelle 12 4
Volkswagen Crafter 53 34
Volkswagen Eos 67 33
Volkswagen Golf 1,239 1,314
Volkswagen Jetta 102 121
Volkswagen Multivan 77 23
Volkswagen New Beetle 1 21
Volkswagen New Beetle Cabrio 0 8
Volkswagen Passat 373 273
Volkswagen Passat CC 85 69
Volkswagen Polo 465 114
Volkswagen Tiguan 151 455
Volkswagen Touareg 2 63
Volkswagen Transporter 162 157
Volkswagen Transporter C/C 15 13
Volkswagen Total 3,032 2,846

Change 6.5%

Nissan 2,011 2,010
Nissan 350Z 0 0
Nissan 370Z 36 74
Nissan Dualis 542 560
Nissan GT-R 11 7
Nissan Maxima 108 156
Nissan Micra 623 656
Nissan Murano 139 245
Nissan Navara 4X2 128 131
Nissan Navara 4X4 1,299 1,327
Nissan Pathfinder 152 25
Nissan Patrol PU/CC 110 148
Nissan Patrol Wagon 143 243
Nissan Tiida 176 580
Nissan X-Trail 781 508
Nissan Total 4,248 4,660

Change -8.8%

Mitsubishi 2011 2010
Mitsubishi 380 0 0
Mitsubishi ASX 477 0
Mitsubishi Challenger 267 167
Mitsubishi Colt 94 84
Mitsubishi Express 74 66
Mitsubishi Grandis 0 14
Mitsubishi Lancer 1,468 1,912
Mitsubishi Outlander 539 813
Mitsubishi Pajero 522 611
Mitsubishi Triton 4X2 595 449
Mitsubishi Triton 4X4 1,245 689
Mitsubishi Total 5,281 4,805

Change 9.9%

Mazda 2011 2010
Mazda BT-50 4X2 441 362
Mazda BT-50 4X4 343 423
Mazda CX-7 586 720
Mazda CX-9 232 321
Mazda MX5 25 26
Mazda RX8 5 23
Mazda2 1,293 1,115
Mazda3 3,044 3,079
Mazda6 377 736
Mazda Total 6,346 6,805

Change -6.7%

Hyundai 2011 2010
Hyundai Accent 0 0
Hyundai Elantra 40 147
Hyundai Getz 1,717 2,192
Hyundai Grandeur 0 2
Hyundai i20 348 0
Hyundai i30 2,531 2,483
Hyundai I45 405 0
Hyundai iLOAD 407 447
Hyundai iMAX 143 277
Hyundai ix35 973 580
Hyundai Santa Fe 293 521
Hyundai Sonata 0 49
Hyundai Tiburon 0 1
Hyundai Tucson 0 26
Hyundai Total 6,857 6,725

Change 2%

Honda 2011 2010
Honda Accord 224 274
Honda Accord Euro 357 358
Honda City 191 161
Honda Civic 611 765
Honda CR-V 420 667
Honda Insight 45 0
Honda Jazz 525 685
Honda Legend 1 3
Honda Odyssey 71 150
Honda Total 2,445 3,063

Change -20.2%
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[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by jpd80

209 vehicles per day x 5 days x 4 weeks = 4180 vehicles.
To do that and reduce current stock levels, sales would have to increase to:
Falcon: 2200
Territory: 1300
Ute 1100
That makes 4600 meaning the backlog could be cleared
at roughly 500/month x 6 month = 3,000 vehicles gone.

I'll give you 2000 Falcons. 1300 territories, but cant go any higher than 600 Utes.The commodore and Falcon Utes are slowly being eaten up by their crew cab 4x2 opponents. Thats 3900 in a good month, and those good months (if they happen) are still a few months into the future.

From memory of reading one of the newspaper articles, it indicated Ford had amassed 120 days of local supply. I assumed at the time, they were meaning 4 months of 3000 = 12000 cars. The worrisome part comes in, because somehow they need to feed these 12000 through the system, at the same time of trying to sell the new territory and Falcon to try and maintain a 4000 sales month.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

I'll give you 2000 Falcons. 1300 territories, but cant go any higher than 600 Utes.The commodore and Falcon Utes are slowly being eaten up by their crew cab 4x2 opponents. Thats 3900 in a good month, and those good months (if they happen) are still a few months into the future.

You gotta give me 1100 utes Bob, the EcoLPI is a big hit with them being cheaper to run
than diesel Utes and now that Station wagon is gone, they are the main tool of trade...

From memory of reading one of the newspaper articles, it indicated Ford had amassed 120 days of local supply. I assumed at the time, they were meaning 4 months of 3000 = 12000 cars. The worrisome part comes in, because somehow they need to feed these 12000 through the system, at the same time of trying to sell the new territory and Falcon to try and maintain a 4000 sales month.

The factory has been on three day weeks since before Christmas,
they would hardly be going back to 5 day week, rebalanced to 209/day
if stock was still spilling out of every orifice at Broadmeadows....

[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by jpd80

The factory has been on three day weeks since before Christmas,
they would hardly be going back to 5 day week, rebalanced to 209/day
if stock was still spilling out of every orifice at Broadmeadows....

From an article written just under 3 weeks ago

http://www.smh.com.au/business/more-...414-1dfwx.html

Ford has been implementing production stoppages to take up the slack, but it has not been enough: Ford's inventory of unsold vehicles is believed to have blown out this year to about 120 days

[FalconXR6]

Originally Posted by DASH GT

EcoLPi will be on sale in July, the question is who will buy them?

if lpi fg xr6 was available at $36k driveaway i probably would have bought one over my fg xr6t at the time....maybe...

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

From an article written just under 3 weeks ago

http://www.smh.com.au/business/more-...414-1dfwx.html

We'll see Bob, if the discounted XR6, new Territory and EcoLPI releases don't significantly lift Falcon sales
then I think Ford will be moving swiftly back to three day weeks and lots of down days..

It won't take that long to tell whether Ford is improving its position or not...