Why People Buy Camry's.. - Page 4

BENT_8 · 13-02-2016, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

ill leave these here and we can try and see if the camry looks better
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If you wanted to get that point across better you should have used flattering pictures of the Falcon and the worst you could find for the Camry...

Oh, you did.

On a serious note, the Falcon looks upside down, i said at the time of FG release that simply swapping the position of the vents and icc didnt do anything for the look and that gaping big hole below the climate switches is just unfinished, unlike the camry which has the flip up cover to hide the power socket and USB port.

**Bluehoon** · 13-02-2016, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

Camry has the big bug catcher (fly swat?) at the front.

As does the FG-X.....

Seems to be the "go" atm..

XB GS 351 Coupe · 13-02-2016, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

ill leave these here and we can try and see if the camry looks better
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Looking at the photos without brand preference the Camry has it allover the Falcon in looks and styling, personally the Falcon exterior is ugly IMO, head lights look way too small, and looks to 'American' for my liking.

And it looks like the Camry has cup holders that will actually work

**Giant Cranium** · 13-02-2016, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

Looking at the photos without brand preference the Camry has it allover the Falcon in looks and styling, personally the Falcon exterior is ugly IMO, head lights look way too small, and looks to 'American' for my liking.

And it looks like the Camry has cup holders that will actually work

i prefer the camry just before this update, that new bumper looks shocking to me. camry cup holders do look right to carry two coffees. my ve's were too close and knocked each others lids off

Sabantien · 13-02-2016, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by superyob

Most importantly though, did you wear your cap backwards like a lot of the homie boy Commodore drivers...

BTW, nothing wrong with us bogans...

I may drive a bogan car, but I don't drive an inbred bogan car. No cap backwards. ;)

Sabantien · 13-02-2016, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

i prefer the camry just before this update, that new bumper looks shocking to me. camry cup holders do look right to carry two coffees. my ve's were too close and knocked each others lids off

I second that. Really don't like that grill. I'm guessing they tried to look sporty and... I don't know what happened.

BENT_8 · 13-02-2016, 12:18 PM

XV40 Sportivo post facelift is my favourite, closely followed by the 'widebody' Vienta Touring series.

Inlaws have a 97 Touring series with 240k, the trim is still as new and has retained the new car smell.
I worked for SA's biggest selling Toyota dealer during their run and stepping into the inlaws Tourer is like a step back in time.
I used to destroy Commodores on the lunch run with them.

Having said that, my fave of the time was the MR2.

Now, im off to bowls in my BF3 wagon...no im serious.

Bearman · 13-02-2016, 12:53 PM

It's all very subjective regarding looks and styling.

I test drove a Camry Altise povo pack last year out of sheer boredom one day and thinking about a replacement for my long in the tooth Honda. It was a very disturbing experience. Why? Because it drove a damn sight better than I thought it would!!

In all seriousness if I were looking for a Sedan format daily driver it would be hard to go past for the asking price.

For my daily use I have a 100km per day commute across town to the Airport precinct. Park in the open in a dirty environment with jet fuel vapour sometimes in the air it would be just cruel to do that to an FPV or anything really nice. For this purpose all a car needs to be is just transport and the Camry would fit the bill nicely. Reliable, comfortable, efficient and durable.

I get why people buy them. Please bear in mind these are not for car enthusiasts, they are just transport.

XB GS 351 Coupe · 13-02-2016, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

i prefer the camry just before this update, that new bumper looks shocking to me. camry cup holders do look right to carry two coffees. my ve's were too close and knocked each others lids off

Too right, manufacturers seem to struggle with cup holders, I remember when I bought my EL XR8, had a few days and put a drink in the cup holders and the first corner it ended up in the passenger footwell, sparking a two hour clean up of the light grey interior.

That was the last time I used it.

2015 Nissan patrol work car can only fit one regular maccas coffee cup in the two console cup holders, if you put two they sit on an angle and knock each others lids off

Other work car, 2015 Hilux duel cab has nice cup holders front passenger can have one coffee and driver can have one as well as a water bottle

No cup holders in my XB's, makes it hard sometimes, especially with a toploader, it's the only time I wish I had an auto when I want to have a cup of coffee....

**Giant Cranium** · 13-02-2016, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

Too right, manufacturers seem to struggle with cup holders, I remember when I bought my EL XR8, had a few days and put a drink in the cup holders and the first corner it ended up in the passenger footwell, sparking a two hour clean up of the light grey interior.

That was the last time I used it.

2015 Nissan patrol work car can only fit one regular maccas coffee cup in the two console cup holders, if you put two they sit on an angle and knock each others lids off

Other work car, 2015 Hilux duel cab has nice cup holders front passenger can have one coffee and driver can have one as well as a water bottle

No cup holders in my XB's, makes it hard sometimes, especially with a toploader, it's the only time I wish I had an auto when I want to have a cup of coffee....

hilux are the best, I've had two of them and in that position on the dash was out of the way and easy to grab, except the day i fumbled a coke and poured some down the aircon (ill admit to once coz its dopey but it happened a lot). new colorado and max are in the same position also.

castellan · 13-02-2016, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Express

Although I wouldn’t say my cousin is into extreme sports he does surf, rock climbs, has his pilot’s licence, I’ve known of him to skydive and his idea of a holiday is to trek off into no man’s land and he has two Toyotas with one being a white Camry.

During his late teens and early 20’s he had a Panel Van and a couple of other V8’s.

I asked him years ago why he was driving a Camira and he told me he doesn’t have time to care about cars anymore and even though I haven’t asked him I’d bet he’d still same the same today about his Camry.

To him life is more important than cars.

Fool.

Well this is true some people just don't understand.

Talking to some and I say one can set up a car that when you turn into a corner the car will respond willingly and if pushed the car will perform willingly to any response you give it.
But to some they just blink as to what is the point of that.

Ignorance must be bliss.

A good car is a blessing to drive and I can't wait to drive it and a bad car is a curse to drive and I can't wait to get out of it.

I like good things and I hate bad things, some don't know the difference nor careless.
It's like politics others want to feed you what you don't respect and push that you must swallow their filth, no no I have the right and I know it's not good and will not accept ignorance.

Brazen · 13-02-2016, 02:49 PM

Also Ford don't use cheap green lighting in the interior, don't notice it after 80,000 but Ford has better interior sophistication.

superyob · 13-02-2016, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

Also Ford don't use cheap green lighting in the interior, don't notice it after 80,000 but Ford has better interior sophistication.

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That dash gives me a headache. Give me the simplicity of old X or Z series dashes any day...

Brazen · 13-02-2016, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tempted

Although I'm no fan of the fgx whale mouth, the Falcon looks so much better in every regard that it's not funny. The Camry is a dopey looking, droopy, curvy mess. The tail light arrangement looks like it's upside down and the C-pillar treatment is absolutely horrid.
I suppose it will appeal to it's target audience as they wouldn't know what a good looking car was if they were run over by one.

I have the pre facelift version but think the latest one is a lot better looking. Agree on that fake C pillar thing. Here is a good photo that shows it.

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 13-02-2016, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

Also Ford don't use cheap green lighting in the interior, don't notice it after 80,000 but Ford has better interior sophistication.

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You've got to admit that Ford did a much better job at integrating the cc buttons than Toyota have. That cc stalk looks like an afterthought, and is no where near as practical as in the Falcon (speaking from experience after having had the use of our work Aurion for the past week or so).

Brazen · 13-02-2016, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by psychobimbo

You've got to admit that Ford did a much better job at integrating the cc buttons than Toyota have. That cc stalk looks like an afterthought, and is no where near as practical as in the Falcon (speaking from experience after having had the use of our work Aurion for the past week or so).

Both are pretty easy to use, my preference is the Toyota actually as you flick up to go faster or flick down to go slower. With the Ford as increase and decrease are buttons you just need to make sure you pressing the right one - which is stupidly easy still. Both are no trouble and probably come down to preference.

One of the undocumented benefits of the Hybrid Camry is that in cruise control it will brake downhill or slopes - using regen, to maintain set speed. Sounds like a nothing feature but removes about 20% stress in day to day metro driving,

Stefan · 13-02-2016, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

Also Ford don't use cheap green lighting in the interior, don't notice it after 80,000 but Ford has better interior sophistication.

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Spot on my BFs rattling rear view mirror and doors that sound like someone dropped a few marbles in them are real sophisticated.

FG50T · 13-02-2016, 04:43 PM

I think the fact that Ford still offer a brown Falcon with brown leather says it all

1TUFFUTE · 13-02-2016, 04:44 PM

The Falcon uses the big 4.0 to engine brake, calibrated with the gearbox when in cruise or not, going down hills aslong as you stay off the throttle! I find it an 'interesting' little feature at best I spose as I live in a pretty hilly area!

I too find the Camry styling to be horrid. Reminds me of a whole bunch of after thought design cues and lines all squashed in to make everyone in the diff departments happy! Much like the VF GTS.

But yes it's all personnel preference. I still maintain the FG tail lights are the nicest looking on any mainstream car!

SumoDog68 · 13-02-2016, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tempted

Best cup holders IMO were in the WK Statesman I used to have.
They work a treat, are out of the way and fold into the dash when not in use.
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Those cup holders were taken from SAAB (during GM - SAAB marriage ) - Swedish masters of ergonomics and simple design . Pity they could not survive in today's market .

duaned · 13-02-2016, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sox

I'd rather saw my arm off than own a Camry.

But they're ok if you're into that sort of thing.

I would like you to prove this!

CyberWasp · 13-02-2016, 09:01 PM

I'm more worried about why a Camry thread has gone this many pages on a Ford Forum.

XRtowcar · 13-02-2016, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberWasp

I'm more worried about why a Camry thread has gone this many pages on a Ford Forum.

We will have to have something to talk about once Falcon is gone.

4vxc · 13-02-2016, 10:34 PM

my thought, the Falcon has the ICC above the vents which seems pretty logical as you dont lower your eyes away from the road to see it. Also the screen in the Toyota looks like a cheap aftermarket install,as do the Corollas. I like the ZF shifter and hate those stupid gated shifters the Japs seems to think is sporty.
I wasnt a fan of the FGX nose when I first saw it on the screen but now I thinks it looks pretty decent,unlike the Camry
Just wish Ford could do simple things like illuminate the buttons on the steering wheel,auto up ect
At the end of the day I'd rather a base rwd Falcon than a Camry/Aurion

mik · 14-02-2016, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tempted

Best cup holders IMO were in the WK Statesman I used to have.
They work a treat, are out of the way and fold into the dash when not in use.
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they look like the same type in my brothers soarer, 91 model i think ? except there was only one

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Sox · 14-02-2016, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by duaned

I would like you to prove this!

No probs, I'm well passed half way to being dead and I haven't owned any kind of Toyota.
I also own a 5hp table saw, a band saw, 2 chain saws, various circular saws, a jigsaw, a guillotine, and many hand saws.

Toyotas aren't happening in this household...

Blue Roo · 14-02-2016, 07:41 PM

Why People Buy Camry's ? Because the Hulk has one. Just ask him.

Ben73 · 14-02-2016, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

ill leave these here and we can try and see if the camry looks better

Colours and angles can make a big differance. Last time I was at my local Ford dealership there was a black FGX Faclon XR8 on the showroom floor. I can tell you now it looked better than any Toyota I have ever seen.

Looks are subjective though

Xauterus · 14-02-2016, 09:32 PM

Why the Camry hate? Surely sales figures that ford would die for. As for boring. Look at all the boring brands put there, Kia Hyundai Proton Mazda etc. Everyone makes white goods. Average consumer wants a car that gives them no trouble and gets them where they want to go.

Smoke Pursuit · 14-02-2016, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Snout

Owned 2 Camry's.

1988 version did 354,000 before retiring it.

Only thing that went wrong from memory was replacing a set of leads.

2003 version, currently the to work and back 2nd car.

It's got 306,000 on it and only thing gone wrong is the dash clock stopped working about a year ago.

I chose Camry's cause I need a 2nd car I don't need to think about. I don't have my self esteem caught up in what I drive and I certainly don't need to buy my self worth. And after driving 600,000+kms in them I clearly don't seem to give a toss about opinion.

I'm on $100K and the wife $120K, we certainly have options when it comes to what we could drive but neither of us are driven by what others may think. Not how you get ahead in life.

If you want involved driving pick something else for sure.

If you want something you can do anything to and it next to never argues back, pick Camry.

Lol great!!! And what are you going to do with all these millions you have saved by driving a pos car? Get the undertaker to bury you with all the cash?? Yeh sure!

Driving a Camry is one thing but acting like a hero because you drive a 12 year old car that's worth less then the average weekly pay cheque is something else...

Camry only has solid sales thanks to government fleet and rental buyers. They are the cheapest of the 3 locals.