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All the others can sook about fuel prices and other injustices.
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Not just the passengers but the employees as well being targeted
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if passengers need to be vaccinated then obviously staff are not exempt which is pretty logical.
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The same grounds were probably used to sack that footy player that decided to host a party over the weekend. Much like many day care centres will not allow un-vaccinated children to attend. If you don't like it take your business or find work elsewhere. If it were any other time they may be able to legally wrangle out of these exemptions but we are past being tolerant to what suits the individual and cries of 'What about ME and MY rights' will fall on deaf ears.
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Have I logged into Weibo by accident? All I’m reading is “obey the rules”?
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Interesting discussion on workplace. Our global CEO came out yesterday and advised that there will be no mandatory jab policy for the company. We have operations in the UK, EMEA, North America and Asia, and none will be required to have the jab.
Going by the Q&As that was then thrown, it made a lot of people anxious but also some people relieved.
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![]() Tajikistan becomes first country to make COVID-19 vaccines mandatory Quote:
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Filipino president said said jail for anyone who refuses vaccination but I think they don't have enough cells to cater to that ![]()
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT July 6th 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 26 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 2.952%. 7 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 0.943% and active cases 39. The UK had a higher 28,334 cases yesterday and higher 37 deaths. A much higher 13,799 new cases in the USA yesterday and higher 120 deaths sees CMR at 1.796%. Other notable points: Global cases pass 185M, the last 1M in 3 days; Fiji (636); Mozambique (1,458) - the previous high on 19/1/21; Zimbabwe (1,949); Kuwait (1,993); Myanmar (3,602); Cuba (3,591); Tunisia (7,930); Iraq (8,818); Bangladesh (11,525); and Indonesia (31,189) ... all recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. Libya moves above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while Sri Lanka drops below.
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“circumstances worldwide have changed drastically, it is NOW company policy that all are vaccinated” Regardless… What a damn sad world we now live in
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Question, my Wife works in aged care, up until recently the employer has been avoiding mandatory vaccination against Covid, however, there is word that they may backflip and force employees to get it.
What would happen if someone had it to satisfy work requirements only to develop clots and the associated complications. Would workcover be liable to compensate as the jab itself is not compulsory by law but would be by employer. Surely a requirement to have it for work would require any negative outcomes be covered. |
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BLUE OVAL INC.
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I know one of her colleagues declined the flu shot due to prior bad experiences and was forced out the door but i guess the difference is she knew the definite consequences and chose accordingly, no one really knows how they will react to the covid jab and for many that may be the first and last opportunity to find out. Its just an interesting thought as we're not overseas travellers so apart from personal choice to either have it or not, the only other deciding factor to go ahead would be if it were forced in order to maintain employment. I wonder if this is why govco isnt forcing it on industry. |
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We have already lost a couple of staff to covid in the NA region, so its very real to management. I'm a believer that things will eventually get back to normal, might take 2, 3, 4 or 5 years.
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If we get everyone 2 doses (who wants it) by mid next year then hopefully by the end of 2022 there will be no restrictions, and that by the time we hit 80% vaccinated with all high risk at as close to 100% then open the borders. Did hear on the radio some talk of incentives. Sad we have to do that but what ever it takes...jab rebate on the tax return or a free beer..just do it.
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'This is the third time AHPPC has considered this matter. They will continue to look at the issue to ensure there are not unintended consequences as an outcome of this decision' And i see they also suggest Pfizer be the weapon of choice. That makes me think they know its a risky requirement and are doing what they can to mitigate any negative results, but that cant be gauranteed and so personally i believe any fallout from forced vaccination in the workplace should be covered by those making the legislation. I also note employee's with leave entitlements are to use those to cover illness from having the jab, surely an employee shouldnt be forced to use their sick or annual leave to recover from sickness brought about by a government ordered vaccination, where the employee wouldnt otherwise need to use those if not for that compulsory directive. From a personal perspective, im a bus driver, there are already rumours of certain clientelle requiring vaccination of us to continue using our services. I've already lived through a blood clot scare and am prone to clotting, if this is forced on me i would have no choice other than to leave the industry. If thats the case, my family would be forced into financial hardship until i aquired work as my Wife earns slightly over the threshold for me to be eligible for centrelink assistance in the meantime. Its a can of worms. For the record, im not anti vax, im anti copping the fallout for my hand being forced. Last edited by BENT_8; 07-07-2021 at 02:55 PM. |
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A snag and a jab?
Bunnings, Officeworks put their hands up to host vaccine hubs https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-...lout/100274000 |
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Can't be too positive, you'll get labelled insensitive. Can't be too negative, you get accused of being overly critical. We must remain...neutral....
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Apologies in advance, for linking an ABC article.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-...lled/100273956 This is significant because it represents overall a battle between the state government and probably the most anti-authoritarian areas of the city. |
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These vaccines are just as safe as any flu jab. Even if you are prone to clotting, I'm sure you wouldn't be the only one in 3 billion. If you're hesitant to get it, that's fine, it's your choice. Though, I would recommend that if it comes down to a situation where you feel you're forced to take it at the cost of your job, that you talk to your doctor about the potential risks rather than walling yourself into an internet echo chamber. |
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Gold Standard Hazzard going off again.
This time reporters asking about the 160 odd students getting the Pfizer jab at the wealthy St Joeys Hunters Hill. Must be part of his New World Order. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-...-jab/100273368
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