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I've just bought a brand new FG GT and relegated the (at the time new) 2011 MC Mondeo Titanium to second vehicle status.
Before buying the GT, it was a toss up between the redline (possibly R8) and the GT. The holden's had the technology, but not the driveline - but coming from the Mondeo the only feature that I would have considered enough to override the driveline would have been the active cruise control. Having travelled ~70K a year in the Mondeo, the active cruise made life so much easier - people can say what they like about drivers being lazy, not knowing how to drive etc but the basic fact is it allowed me to ignore the over road users who would not / could not use their cruise control on the freeway & instead decide whether I was happy to cruise along without changing lanes or +/-my own cruise or overtake when safe. Now that I travel what's more average (20-25K / annum) the other tech in the Mondeo that I found really convenient & found in the VF I think of as a nice to have. I think that I am the exception to the rule, and in today's world gadget's override drivetrain (when pricing is equivalent) so unless Ford decides to heavily discount I think that they will struggle unless they spec it up. I don't think that Ford will tech the next Falcon up, or discount to be honest (my personal opinion being that the bean counters have done the sums and worked out what the most economical way to close the Australian manufacturing operation and that's to reduce overall production build by pricing it at an appropriate point (they will likely lose $ on each car regardless of pricing)). |
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EA guards didn't have the cut out for the indicator, and IIRC the reinforcement that ran on the inside of the guard is different.
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![]() Surely a European manufacturer selling you a vehicle through official distribution channels at a grossly over inflated price wouldn't play such dirty tricks...oh wait, they do ![]() Obviously as a new vehicle truck salesman you have a vested interest in having a protected vehicle industry...commissions arn't as high on more fairly priced vehicles are they....the thought of people buying grey imports and cutting hard working salesmen like you out of the loop altogether...we couldn't allow that could we. Last edited by Rodge; 16-02-2014 at 05:08 PM. |
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If the Bookies were taking odds, surely cessation of Falcon production sometime in 2015 would be the shortest priced bet of all time. |
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Your posts are usually quite insightful and well put, but I can't understand the judgemental generalising tone of the above comment. I have a Territory for day to day driving but there was never a choice of a manual transmission. I went auto in the R-Spec because, to me, it was the better choice. With regard to other tech "safety" systems, I had a test drive of a 300 SRT8 back in 2012 and I found the blind spot assist a great feature, particularly when a car changed lanes quickly behind me; the alert in the mirror drew my attention and made me aware another vehicle was at my rear three-quarter, even when I wasn't even going to change lanes. We recently also bought a Focus Titanium hatch as my wife's car; it's loaded with tech and the features she likes the most are: 1) Keyless Entry, 2) Push Button start, 3) Folding Mirrors, 4) Front Parking Sensors, 5) The guide lines on the screen when reverse parking. It would be great if Falcon could have these features (it probably already has the last one in the list.). The comments others have made about not looking where you're going if you're using the reverse camera are also laughable; they're great if low objects are behind you and also let you judge it just right to the car spot rear line, particularly in bad light.
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In no way is the Mondeo a replacement for the Falcon. Is it a large car? No, its medium Is it RWD? No. Is it a sedan? No. Only a Hatch and Wagon is available from Ford Australia.
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Any actual real new news to report about the falcon instead of this crap.
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If there isn't going to be huge tech upgrades, lets just hope they sort out the bushes, diff bush in particular, and the ZF heat exchanger issue.
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also, apart from the commercial type vehicles, how many rwd cars are there at the top of the sales charts? ford are interested in what sells. i would never buy a mondeo over a falcon, but if the falcon wasn't available, then mondeo would be top of the list. new mondeo/fusion should be a great choice for family car. Quote:
this forum has never been short of falcon detractors, so its no surprise that the speculation regarding content has gone on the downward spiral. |
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Anyone keen to speculate on pricing?, especially for the XR8, I am seriously considering buying one if I like the styling of the FH, so far it is looking good. I just hope they have a base model XR8, if they can just option things like Brembo brakes I will be happy as I don't wan't to spend extra $$$ on extras, as silly as it sounds because brakes are important but if they can lower the cost of the car it's only going to be a bonus when they are selling them.
One thing I would love Ford to do (they have done it in the past with the original XC Cobra and the BF ones) is as production is winding up and the last few hundred Falcons are coming is release a final GT version which would be an XR8 badged as a GT, GT stripes, different rims, everything standard, lower diff ratio for a slightly quicker launch time, different seats, they would be able to sell them fairly quickly.
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![]() I have nothing against auto transmissions or people that have them (had one myself).
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Its a quite acceptable replacement.
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It sure is annoying having to dig through all these OT posts to see pictures. Someone needs to start a separate thread with all the spyshots/renderings/teasers, and maybe another one for the discussion.
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How much more expensive would the current xr6t cost with the Miami (and any other changes required for the Miami) slotted in instead of the 6? Xr6t can be had for $39k driveaway without negotiating, so how much dearer is the v8? 2k? 5k? 10k? I can't see how it can cost an extra $11000 to get it to $50000.
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It might be more then just a XR V8...
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As long as its under the luxury car tax range then I will be happy, nothing would annoy me more than having to fork out extra money for a BS tax that Labor introduced because they couldn't keep their ridiculous spending in check.
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Does anyone get the feeling that Ford stepped on their own toes by announcing that the Mustang will be coming to Australia in right hand drive, will some people hold off buying a FH and wait for the Mustang?
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I hope it's not too far away at least that way we will all know.. I would not expect many expensive changes, after all ford have said alreay it won't match the vf tech wise..
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I drive a fairlane as a dailt and my xr8 lives in the garage. But I dont need four doors. So when fh comes out I'll of course cross shop it with others. Would have to be stupid to ignore the mustang if you dont need a 4 door |
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Good question, but maybe people who do trade in's when a new model comes out who are looking for a total performance package. A few people on here always trade in when a new model comes out, maybe the Mustang could be their next trade in.
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I really hope the last Falcon is a beauty but as I have the R-Spec I'm not looking to get one. I'm waiting for Mustang; there's a group from Sinclair Ford going on a USA road trip in April and they'll visit a lot of favourite Mustang venues. The feedback should be interesting!
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Back to the new falcon, we know the auto box is upgrade to the gen2 version of the ZF 6speed, hopefully the xr models will get blip shift. It would be cool if the GT-P seats became an option on the xr6t and xr8.
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Why do I keep coming to this thread looking for more news about FH, it's dribble after dribble now?
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OK, enough from me I'll stop polluting the thread! Looking forwards to more pics. |
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You just whinge your hole out about the same stuff Rodge, get over it- your contribution to the thread, dogging Ford and their choices is as useless as mine calling you out for it. Go parallel import something and annoy some other forum with tales of how great you've finally realised your GT is.
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