FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread

[Bossxr8]

Not sure what is happening with the auto gearboxes but the ZF HP21 does not have a high enough torque rating for the I6, IIRC it's rated at 350nm.

I have heard rumours that the 6R80 Ford built ZF copy (ala Territory diesel) will be used in some models though. Makes more sense than the HP21.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Not sure what is happening with the auto gearboxes but the ZF HP21 does not have a high enough torque rating for the I6, IIRC it's rated at 350nm.

I have heard rumours that the 6R80 Ford built ZF copy (ala Territory diesel) will be used in some models though. Makes more sense than the HP21.

It was certainly a persistent rumour early on but they'd need ESC recalibration for it.

Plus I had it vehemently ruled out when I made some enquiries but things can change.

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

It was certainly a persistent rumour early on but they'd need ESC recalibration for it.

Plus I had it vehemently ruled out when I made some enquiries but things can change.

interesting, how does transmission tie in with dsc? always thought the bosh abs module and electrnoic throttle control made dsc/traction control work.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by malazn mafia

interesting, how does transmission tie in with dsc? always thought the bosh abs module and electrnoic throttle control made dsc/traction control work.

Well, I'd imagine that any changes to the driveline that would effect how the power and torque is transmitted to the wheels would require the ESC to be recalibrated.

[Taily]

Originally Posted by ford man xf

...As long as its under the luxury car tax range then I will be happy, nothing would annoy me more than having to fork out extra money for a BS tax that Labor introduced because they couldn't keep their ridiculous spending in check.

I agree with most of your post but the Luxury Car Tax was raised, gazetted and enacted by the Liberals under Howard/Costello in 1999/2000. Blame them for your "BS" tax. The LCT had to be re-addressed twice by Labor - once to ramp it up a bit and the second time to plug the glaring loopholes in it that was allowing high earners etc to evade paying the tax at all by claiming the vehicle was "trading stock" and therefore not subject to the tax for up to two years. Maybe that is the Labor involvement in that tax you are remembering?

[ford man xf]

Originally Posted by Taily

I agree with most of your post but the Luxury Car Tax was raised, gazetted and enacted by the Liberals under Howard/Costello in 1999/2000. Blame them for your "BS" tax. The LCT had to be re-addressed twice by Labor - once to ramp it up a bit and the second time to plug the glaring loopholes in it that was allowing high earners etc to evade paying the tax at all by claiming the vehicle was "trading stock" and therefore not subject to the tax for up to two years. Maybe that is the Labor involvement in that tax you are remembering?

This I did not know, thanks. So it was those damn Libs then! I do remember Labor tinkering with it, this is probably where I thought they introduced it.

[Dr Smith]

Oh Spyman please post a new shot, this thread needs some serious "on topic realignment".

[kempy311]

Spyman more pics more pic more pics.

[Rodge]

Originally Posted by jimt3te50

I buy and support local industry, Rodge. The fact is not enough people do. My occupation is as irrelevant as yours- what's an accountant charge an hour? I sell an Australian made product. I wouldn't sell anything else- we build things here that last. We always have done- our cars do and our trucks do. They are not the cheapest to produce, that's the problem. The problem is their parent companies, housed in their International offices, see what the costs are to produce such low volume for such a difficult market segment. It's only a matter of time, it always was.

You just whinge your hole out about the same stuff Rodge, get over it- your contribution to the thread, dogging Ford and their choices is as useless as mine calling you out for it. Go parallel import something and annoy some other forum with tales of how great you've finally realised your GT is.

Don't presume to tell me what to do my friend. If you find my posts so irksome as you assert then use the ignore function readily available in the system Take it to PM if you have anything else to say to me.

[au2000]

in an attempt to put this thread back on track id like to say a big thank you to spyman for yesterday.. i did look wierd talking to a fire hydrant in the middle of a sporting field but it was well worth it.
the few pics he had that i was able to see look promising.. the fh will be an attractive car & although they were not clear / full pics i did get a good idea of whats coming.
i stand by a previous comment though, ford has made it clear if you are expecting a tech upgrade ie vf you will be in for a shock & i dont doubt this at all but i have to say if i had not brought the GT-E, id happily park a fh in the garage.

[Road_Warrior]

Spyman was dressed as a fire hydrant? Well that's innovative.

[spyman03]

Hey,
au2000 you forgot to mention the size of my fire hose that went with the suit

Hehehehehehehe


Thanks for the chat.....


Spyman

[AU1XLS]

Enough!
Post on topic or not at all
I won't hesitate to close thread if off topic posting and personal attacks persist

[b0son]

Originally Posted by au2000

if you are expecting a tech upgrade ie vf you will be in for a shock

then its dead in the water, surely? people don't select cars on the basis of DRLs and projector headlamps. ultimately, its just depressing at how much you have to spend nowadays to achieve so little, no wonder our industry fell over. its like F1, you really do need the bank balance of a big manufacturer behind you to develop anything worth a damn nowadays.

[au2000]

well i doubt the fh is going to be a sales success that will turn the falcons future but if you are looking for a straight forward 4 door rear wheel drive sedan im sure you'll like whats coming.

[spyman03]

Originally Posted by b0son

then its dead in the water, surely? people don't select cars on the basis of DRLs and projector headlamps. ultimately, its just depressing at how much you have to spend nowadays to achieve so little, no wonder our industry fell over. its like F1, you really do need the bank balance of a big manufacturer behind you to develop anything worth a damn nowadays.

hey,

I think your missing Fords point, some inside don't want to drop the people I meet and talked to yesterday like a rock,

god the level of work ppl do to their passion blows me away

they just want Falcon to go out peacefully that's all

F1 well arn't they going to a smaller motor to save dollars this year????

Big rear wheel drives are in the $70,000-$100,000+ ranger all over the world now, that Kia/hyundi joint car(k900) if it comes here 60,000+

the trend is small eco cars before we have to go battery based.

spyman

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by spyman03

Hey,
au2000 you forgot to mention the size of my fire hose that went with the suit

Hehehehehehehe


Thanks for the chat.....


Spyman

Wait, you sneak in and dress as a fire hydrant?


That's classic!!!

[FalconXV]

It looks like it'll be the best looking Falcon ever from the front, the closeup spyshot of the rear screams Pulsar/ Altima to me.

[spyman03]

Originally Posted by FalconXV

It looks like it'll be the best looking Falcon ever from the front, the closeup spyshot of the rear screams Pulsar/ Altima to me.

Hey,

Its 2016 XF jag but with the escort len design

right au2000


spyman

[au2000]

Originally Posted by spyman03

Hey,

Its 2016 XF jag but with the escort lens design

right au2000


spyman

yep.. correct spyman, i'd agree with that comment..
it looks to be a good looking car
like i said if i was after a G6E turbo instead of the GT-E id have waitied & gone FH

[spyman03]

Hey,

I think you've got a pretty special car there, its one to hold onto

and it needs no tricking


spyman

[Rodge]

I am certain Russell posted a thread some time back surrounding a press release whereby Ford confirmed the updated Falcon is to receive the ZFHP28 gearbox. Not cutting edge by any means, (design was first released in 2007), but nonetheless a considerably improved version than what we currently have. Quicker shifting, has provision for throttle blipping for rev matching on downshift and about 3% more efficient in my memory serves me correctly from a review of the ZF website spec's. (Great shame we won't ever see the 8 speed ZF in an Aussie built car in my opinion).

[spyman03]

Originally Posted by Rodge

I am certain Russell posted a thread some time back surrounding a press release whereby Ford confirmed the updated Falcon is to receive the ZFHP28 gearbox. Not cutting edge by any means, (design was first released in 2007), but nonetheless a considerably improved version than what we currently have. Quicker shifting, has provision for throttle blipping for rev matching on downshift and about 3% more efficient in my memory serves me correctly from a review of the ZF website spec's. (Great shame we won't ever see the 8 speed ZF in an Aussie built car in my opinion).

Hey,
From all the info I received and the fact I've been standing a metre way from a XR6 on take off its got something new about its auto, it rockets and the change up is smooth

spyman

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by FalconXV

It looks like it'll be the best looking Falcon ever from the front, the closeup spyshot of the rear screams Pulsar/ Altima to me.

Everyone who has had the privilege this far of seeing it has said, for all intents and purposes, that it is a great looking car.

In XR8 form with the 335 engine it will be a killer package. I'll take mine in black with a manual gearbox thanks.

[fgpsi]

What about the leather seats design ? Same as FG ?

[spyman03]

Originally Posted by fgpsi

What about the leather seats design ? Same as FG ?

hey,

was talking to au2000 re his car and said FH xr6 and to me much the same from the one I was in.


spyman

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by spyman03

hey,

was talking to au2000 re his car and said FH xr6 and to me much the same from the one I was in.


spyman

What, the same as his GT-E :

I'd be rather bummed if they didn't even change the trim. By all means use the same seat, but look at the XR50 seats to see how different trim can make a world of difference with feel and appearance.

[spyman03]

Originally Posted by au2000

the few pics he had that i was able to see look promising.. the fh will be an attractive car & although they were not clear / full pics i did get a good idea of whats coming.

Hey,

"Not clear":-) well the two FORD blokes standing at the fusion fell over when I took the below pic, against the red fusion they knew what the new Escort looked like.

spyman

[spyman03]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

What, the same as his GT-E :

I'd be rather bummed if they didn't even change the trim. By all means use the same seat, but look at the XR50 seats to see how different trim can make a world of difference with feel and appearance.

Hey,

we had a long chat yesterday about what I've seen to date, and I wont go into to much here but the Xr8 that I've had a peak at, it was sim in pattern to say his head rest/seat bolster but didn't have the badge stamped into the head rest
just trim/color changes on what I've seen

seen the XR8 shot here "GOOD Work Man"

spyman

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Everyone who has had the privilege this far of seeing it has said, for all intents and purposes, that it is a great looking car.

In XR8 form with the 335 engine it will be a killer package. I'll take mine in black with a manual gearbox thanks.

My head says this, but my heart would be with the XR6T manual. 2015 and the TE50 might be let go I think.