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12-11-2012, 12:23 PM | #1411 | ||
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The reason why it is very low, is that the meter itself has a Wi-Fi antenna that sends signals every 30 minutes to a receiver on a pole. Nothing to be concerned at if you use a mobile phone, cook your dinner in a microwave, or use a Wi-Fi signal for your internet.
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12-11-2012, 12:37 PM | #1412 | ||
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xisled, these smart meters, I've heard of them, but never seen one. A question: Does the wifi connection to the box on the pole mean that the energy retailer no longer has to visit your property to read the meter?
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12-11-2012, 12:46 PM | #1413 | ||
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ah! .....now I've been told that in the future the "meter reader" will simply drive past your property and your reading will be automatically downloaded to an onboard computer
I've also heard water and gas is headed in this direction my current meter reader (who happens to be 67 but cant afford to retire) told me so only yesterday
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Here in Vic by 2013 all houses will have the smart meters and the system should be up and running of remote reads. Funny thing about the remote reads, I can see going by the usage what time they get up and go to sleep. What time they go and come back home. I can even see the days that the heater has been left on overnight. Most customers will have a pattern. |
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12-11-2012, 12:56 PM | #1415 | |||
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12-11-2012, 04:48 PM | #1416 | ||
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11 kilolitres......hmmm!!! .....yeah! ...okay someones not doing their job!.....
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one has to wonder why the powers that be are not embracing this technology with incentives to make it viable. |
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14-11-2012, 04:17 PM | #1418 | ||
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well that truly is a shame......the technology is great.....why the government is so against new ideas and refuses to fund new developments is beyond me...too damn focused on monetary gain
an old cree indian saying went something like this "When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted, when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then will you discover you cannot eat money."
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14-11-2012, 07:23 PM | #1419 | ||
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That's a good saying from the old indians, pity we don't have some wise old indians leading the country :(.
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14-11-2012, 11:27 PM | #1420 | ||
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well i just had my 1st full bill with solar
AND i must say in WA and are in the synergy area DON'T BOTHER WITH SOLAR PANELS!!!! i used 518 units of power, i EXPORTED 544 units of power and i got a total bill of $153.84 the gave me my 544 units at 8.4c so i got a credit of $46.59 so i still had a bill of $107.25 what a joke ...will take 15 years to pay off till synergy go to a 1 to 1 system ...the only fair way
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15-11-2012, 10:38 AM | #1421 | ||
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simply not fair......synergy would have taken that 544 kilowatts and sold it on as "green energy" whilst giving you a very paltry sum indeed.......the energy sector has a very bad odour about it at the moment
but I guess is everything is "privatised" then we can expect more of the same can you afford to go "stand alone" with a battery bank & inverter upgrade to your solar even if you halve your account
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15-11-2012, 12:09 PM | #1422 | |||
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The funny thing is, The call centre for Horizon Power, which is the retailer/distributor for WA outside the metropolitan area is ran in Melbourne, Horizon power is still owned by the WA Gov. Solar will never be 1 for 1, as I said in earlier post, Vic had the scheme and as of 1st Jan 2013, the scheme is now not available. The funny thing is, if you are currently on the SFIT scheme (1 for 1) and you change retailers after the 1st Jan 2013, you automatically drop down to the new SFIT tariff of 8 cents. |
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15-11-2012, 03:45 PM | #1423 | ||
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My Install is coming up next week and I just wanted some input from those of you in the know on what to look out for. Are the installers supposed to run cables through the roof space or on the outside somewhere, things like that. Any input is appreciated.
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15-11-2012, 03:48 PM | #1424 | ||
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My install has the cables running through the ceiling, and then from under the eaves down the side of the house in conduit to the switchboard. There are no visible cables on the roof.
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15-11-2012, 04:08 PM | #1425 | ||
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the only conduit i can see on mine is from the inverter to the on/off switch and isolator. looks like power to the inverter has been run internally.
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15-11-2012, 04:52 PM | #1426 | |||
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most cables are hidden within the roof space so are not a problem, you could take a look up to watch for unsecure or dangling cabling the main thing that irks me are the cables that link the panels together, not being secured above the roof and therefore are visible from the ground the other thing is that the rails are adjustable and can be prone to uneven placement giving the panels a "wavy" look keep an eye on the "piercings" through your roof......be sure they are adequately sealed and have the appropriate rubbers and sealant present look for overall neatness in appearance, panels and inverter......scruffy looking system install will annoy the crap out of you forever.....make them do it right the first time
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15-11-2012, 04:57 PM | #1427 | |||
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I have learnt to never say never.....no-one knows what is around the corner nor what will happen in 5 years time....a week is a long time in politics 1-1 is the only fair way to go and I really think it will come in eventually my comment on privatisation is a generality.....I've stated many times I will not comment on individual state policies or how it reflects on solar systems nor will I advise on any particular system for any particular person...they all differ far too much however privatisation has the impact of forcing up prices whether owned by guvco or mr who flung dung....investors must be paid profit is king....greed is good and all that look at what is going on or about to go in the NT......big changes are going to be forced into play
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15-11-2012, 05:06 PM | #1428 | |||
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as for hoirzon it all depends where you live to how much they give you for the power you make.. some is below 1 to 1 and some are over its just a joke that the WA gov say that electric prices need to rise but evey month more and more people get solar and they are making a killing out of everyone who has them fitted as for a 1to1, the only way it will happen is when people start putting pressure on the state gov eg give us 1to1 or we wont vote for you ,,,,then see how fast the do it
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15-11-2012, 05:17 PM | #1429 | ||
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the power price rise is based on complete fiction.....we have been over supplied with power for a number of years now....apparently the term that is thrown around most now is "gold plating" of the grid.....
last count I think we are up to 3 "enquiries" into the price "fixing" with no result with a few ministers "looking into" the price I'd like to think that guvco could use a little nouse and force the power moguls to come to the table with a fair deal for all anyhoo! keep the "stand alone" idea alive and try to work toward it if you can....even if you can knock the bill down a little....better to store a little than give it away I'm thinking about it myself....I just got to get around the minister for finance....our fiscal quarter is a bit depleted after our recent acquisition of the new van.....another "investment" may not be welcomed nor supported just at the moment
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15-11-2012, 06:38 PM | #1430 | |||
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The cables are something I am thinking about as I would like them to put the inverter in my laundry out of the way. Its an outside inverter but I would just rather it inside. Outside the only place I have to put it on the way to the meter box is not really undercover and will get wet when it rains and have full sun after midday. The laundry is on the way to the meter box and they will be able to grab power for the sockets on the wall right next to where the inverter would be installed. Do you think thats a reasonable request? I have also thought about the brackets on the tin roof. I can imagine how many installers are up on roofs with tek screws. I asked the EM rep who took the install booking and she was certain they used only existing holes. I doubt it but I will be keeping a watchful eye.
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15-11-2012, 07:14 PM | #1431 | ||
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I can assure you they dont use existing holes.....there will be up to 3 hefty lads on your roof so keep an eye on the "crush effect" of the iron
try to get the inverter under cover out of the sun......despite reports to the contrary they do not like direct sunlight, it will make the screen unreadable in a short manner of time keep in mind the inverter must be on the same structure as the solar system but that is about it, where you have it placed is entirely up to you.... if you want it in the laundry then have them place it there.....dont let them talk you out of it
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15-11-2012, 07:15 PM | #1432 | |||
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15-11-2012, 07:16 PM | #1433 | ||
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you're probably right .....but hell a feller can dream cant he???
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15-11-2012, 07:24 PM | #1434 | |||
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This cost me no extra, and the installer thought it was wise to do so - most people are concerned with aesthetics, I'm for practicality! I must point out that my verandah was about 1.2 metres from the nearest solar panel though. Distance could make the difference. Cheers!
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16-11-2012, 10:19 AM | #1435 | ||
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on the point of instalation care and what to watch out for.....just be sure the installers get rid of the swarf generated by tek screwing the supports to the roof
either hose it down, including the gutter or sweep it all off swarf can very quickly rust a hole in your iron roof or gutter........be very strict on this or you will be looking for a new roof/guttering within a very short time
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16-11-2012, 12:32 PM | #1436 | ||
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I agree with putting the inverter out of the weather, end of the day it is still an electrical device and weather and electrics do not mix.
Another idea is you could get a meter box for your inverter, either wooden of metal, you could then put it on the outside on the wall and still have it in a safe place. |
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16-11-2012, 01:30 PM | #1437 | ||
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Can someone help me out with clearling up an isolation.
As per attached; it seems the system can be isolated without the need to get on the rooof. Is this correct? But, I also have the little box at the end of each string which i assume is for isolation as well. So, in the event of a fire, and I understand charge will still be held, can I isolate the system via the switch board and inverter or do I still need to get on the roof? Many thanks, |
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16-11-2012, 02:35 PM | #1438 | ||
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no need to get on the roof.......the system can be isolated from the ground.....using the shutdown procedure as described.....also follow the instructions for start up as well or a few isolators could be thrown
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16-11-2012, 03:13 PM | #1439 | ||
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Cheers mate.
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Nice and neat installation by the way!
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