BMW X5 copied Territoty suspension? - Page 5

Steffo · 22-01-2008, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by drew`SEVNT5

shh....your not allowed to express an opinion that a BMW could possibly be better than a Ford....at any time in history

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Sure you can. However in this cast, it isn't.

Ruger · 22-01-2008, 08:45 PM

Lol every person in this thread that has had experience with the x5 agrees its one up on the ford except for you

Steffo · 22-01-2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruger

Lol every person in this thread that has had experience with the x5 agrees its one up on the ford except for you

So if, for example, a whole bunch of people decided that eating faeces and drinking urine was good and I thought it wasn't, would that make me wrong?

Majority isn't necessarily the right way to go.

Ruger · 22-01-2008, 09:27 PM

Indeed but the madman thinks everyone around him is insane and he is normal ;)

i know what your saying either way when ive got a lazy 80k and have a sudden surge to buy a 4wd i couldnt really give a rats who makes the best or worst off roader in the world.

Steffo · 22-01-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruger

Indeed but the madman thinks everyone around him is insane and he is normal ;)

i know what your saying either way when ive got a lazy 80k and have a sudden surge to buy a 4wd i couldnt really give a rats who makes the best or worst off roader in the world.

Touche.

But tell me, you've got 80k to spend... which of these two would you buy, and why...

BMW X5 3.0i or FPV F6 X

Ruger · 22-01-2008, 10:20 PM

I couldnt make the decision based on my current knowledge of the 2 i would have to drive both. Also depends if i have a second toy car.

If i didnt have a toy car i would probably mod an f6x and if i had a toy car to unleash the fun on id buy the x5 to putt around in. Its hard to say but having experience with a late model 5 and 7 series and having oodles of experience with ba/bf falcons i would assume the bmw the more comfortable and nicer car to drive as the 5 and 7 were compared to the ba/bf's.
The insides of the car i like the bmw much much more than the terry. exterior aesthetics is 50/50 i like the aggression of the f6x but the subtelty of the x5 suits the car
It would get put decided at the drive of each car and what i wanted out of each. Resale would be another big consideration.

In all seriousness though with that kind of dosh i would buy and turbocharge an e36 m3. Thats a no brainer for me, i actually LOVE the way the 6 cylinder m3's sound (and the 4cyl and the 8cyl for that matter) :P. Boosted they are absolute weapons

drew`SEVNT5 · 22-01-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

Touche.

But tell me, you've got 80k to spend... which of these two would you buy, and why...

BMW X5 3.0i or FPV F6 X

for me? the F6X.

I love power to much.

for the wifey? the X5 3.0i....christ knows shes lost her licence in her old car(x2) and my car (x1) and drives like a nut enough for me to not want her in a fast car...

but, up the price range, and ill have either the upcoming X5M or X6 XDrive 5.0 with the 300kw twin turbov8......why? Cos V8 with boost is more attractive than straight 6 with boost.

Steffo · 22-01-2008, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruger

I couldnt make the decision based on my current knowledge of the 2 i would have to drive both. Also depends if i have a second toy car.

If i didnt have a toy car i would probably mod an f6x and if i had a toy car to unleash the fun on id buy the x5 to putt around in. Its hard to say but having experience with a late model 5 and 7 series and having oodles of experience with ba/bf falcons i would assume the bmw the more comfortable and nicer car to drive as the 5 and 7 were compared to the ba/bf's.
The insides of the car i like the bmw much much more than the terry. exterior aesthetics is 50/50 i like the aggression of the f6x but the subtelty of the x5 suits the car
It would get put decided at the drive of each car and what i wanted out of each. Resale would be another big consideration.

In all seriousness though with that kind of dosh i would buy and turbocharge an e36 m3. Thats a no brainer for me, i actually LOVE the way the 6 cylinder m3's sound (and the 4cyl and the 8cyl for that matter) :P. Boosted they are absolute weapons

E36 M3 Turbo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsBCzDFWO5E Like this one? That one rocks! :evil3:

My fav sounding Bee Emm Six has always been the 3.0 from the E46 330i/330Ci. If ever I had the $, I'd make one something like this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeE0vqXMRtI... S/C Black w/Cream leather E46 330Ci SMG... mmm...

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Originally Posted by drew`SEVNT5

for me? the F6X.

I love power to much.

for the wifey? the X5 3.0i....christ knows shes lost her licence in her old car(x2) and my car (x1) and drives like a nut enough for me to not want her in a fast car...

but, up the price range, and ill have either the upcoming X5M or X6 XDrive 5.0 with the 300kw twin turbov8......why? Cos V8 with boost is more attractive than straight 6 with boost.

Which Twin Turbo V8 are you talking about? BMW has just shown a 4.4 V8 Twin Turbo at some motorshow with 298kW 610Nm. Which is uh... not too shabby. Forget the X5, they need to put that in a 5-Series.

drew`SEVNT5 · 22-01-2008, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

E36 M3 Turbo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsBCzDFWO5E Like this one? That one rocks! :evil3:

My fav sounding Bee Emm Six has always been the 3.0 from the E46 330i/330Ci. If ever I had the $, I'd make one something like this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeE0vqXMRtI... S/C Black w/Cream leather E46 330Ci SMG... mmm...

Which Twin Turbo V8 are you talking about? BMW has just shown a 4.4 V8 Twin Turbo at some motorshow with 298kW 610Nm. Which is uh... not too shabby. Forget the X5, they need to put that in a 5-Series.

thats the mummyf*cker....

as per the bulletin I read on the X6

X6 xDrive50i = 300kw/600nm 4.4litre twin turbo petrol v8(0-100kph 5.4s, 12.5L/100km)

ea90gl · 22-01-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruger

I couldnt make the decision based on my current knowledge of the 2 i would have to drive both. Also depends if i have a second toy car.

If i didnt have a toy car i would probably mod an f6x and if i had a toy car to unleash the fun on id buy the x5 to putt around in. Its hard to say but having experience with a late model 5 and 7 series and having oodles of experience with ba/bf falcons i would assume the bmw the more comfortable and nicer car to drive as the 5 and 7 were compared to the ba/bf's.
The insides of the car i like the bmw much much more than the terry. exterior aesthetics is 50/50 i like the aggression of the f6x but the subtelty of the x5 suits the car
It would get put decided at the drive of each car and what i wanted out of each. Resale would be another big consideration.

In all seriousness though with that kind of dosh i would buy and turbocharge an e36 m3. Thats a no brainer for me, i actually LOVE the way the 6 cylinder m3's sound (and the 4cyl and the 8cyl for that matter) :P. Boosted they are absolute weapons

thats exactly what i said in my other post, a friend of mine loves his beemers and is constantly looking up turbo beemers on youtube and i never knew what they could do until he showed me all these vids, bloody amazing. they're all over the place in germany and the states

T-BOOST · 23-01-2008, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

The way they look?

I love the E90/2 3-Series, E46, E30, E21, E39 5-Series, E34, E28, the 7-Series before the latest, the E63 6-Series, the Z3 and the Z4 Coupe, the E31 8-Series, the old 6-Series...

The E60 5-Series and the new shape 7-Series are pretty bloody ugly... most people agree on that.

Why are you bringing up looks? I'm talking about build quality and performance. What do looks have to do with that? :togo:

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PS - Where has anyone been knocking their looks? The only things I've noticed are myself saying the R32 & S3 look better then the 1-Series and that I think the F6 Typhoon and Boxster S look better then the E46 M3.

Wow... major knocking of looks there...

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OOOO he gets grumpy when someone says something about his girls car doesn't he!

Read it again young man i said "And you knock the way BMW's look"
If i was to say that you knock the way BMW looks altegether (every model)
i would have said "And you knock the BMW looks"

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Steffo · 23-01-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by T-BOOST

OOOO he gets grumpy when someone says something about his girls car doesn't he!

Read it again young man i said "And you knock the way BMW's look"
If i was to say that you knock the way BMW looks altegether (every model)
i would have said "And you knock the BMW looks"

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As usual, someone else tries to make fun of either me or my car. And then people try to call me stupid/childish/immature. :togo:

Time for an English lesson...

"And you knock the way BMW's look," is in reference to every BMW. If you want to break it down into specifics you would say either "certain BMW's," or actually mention the models.

Also, comparing one car to another saying "this one looks better," is not knocking the other car's looks, rather, its stating preference. Perhaps that's above your head though?

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Bossxr8 · 23-01-2008, 05:04 PM

From Wheels COTY-

To ensure the new X5 achieved the elevated handling standards that BMW wanted, a new front suspension was developed etc.etc.

Interestingly, its a design that MIMICS FORD AUSTRALIA'S front suspension for the 2004 COTY winning Territory.

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Dave_au · 23-01-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

But tell me, you've got 80k to spend... which of these two would you buy, and why...

BMW X5 3.0i or FPV F6 X

Jumping in here, I think the BMW - but only on the basis of resale, which I assume would probably be better than a tubby-turbo-terry in 3 years time.

Phase II · 23-01-2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

As usual, someone else tries to make fun of either me or my car. And then people try to call me stupid/childish/immature. :togo:

Time for an English lesson...

"And you knock the way BMW's look," is in reference to every BMW. If you want to break it down into specifics you would say either "certain BMW's," or actually mention the models.

Also, comparing one car to another saying "this one looks better," is not knocking the other car's looks, rather, its stating preference. Perhaps that's above your head though?

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Steffo - How about droping it and moving onto the next thread and we will pretend you are right in this one?

Steffo · 23-01-2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Phase II

Steffo - How about droping it and moving onto the next thread and we will pretend you are right in this one?

Dropping what? Oh wait, so I'm supposed to be quiet when someone tries to insult me? Bait or no bait, not gonna happen.

5.4 GT · 23-01-2008, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

Just out of curiosity, is your mate's 328i an E36 or E46? 1998 was the transition year.

E36 with full M3 bodykit (mirrors, skirts etc), and interior (seats). Quite a nice ride.

Steffo · 23-01-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveO_SP

E36 with full M3 bodykit (mirrors, skirts etc), and interior (seats). Quite a nice ride.

Yep, love the E36 328i. Shame insurance companies want way more then in is sane, or I could very well have bought one at one point.

Phase II · 23-01-2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

Yep, love the E36 328i. Shame insurance companies want way more then in is sane, or I could very well have bought one at one point.

Do you love it more than a Territory?

Steffo · 23-01-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Phase II

Do you love it more than a Territory?

Apples to oranges there...

Phase II · 23-01-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

Apples to oranges there...

Anyone else getting dizzy?

drew`SEVNT5 · 23-01-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Phase II

Anyone else getting dizzy?

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I think its time for this thread to wander off to obscurity

Steffo · 23-01-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Phase II

Anyone else getting dizzy?

If pain persists, see your doctor

drew`SEVNT5 · 23-01-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

If pain persists, see your doctor

this thread is panadene forte spec hahah

zk_dazza · 23-01-2008, 08:45 PM

sorry to be on topic, but if bmw ripped of ford suspension (LOL AS IF)
does this mean the X5's will now flog out the ball joints on lower control arms every 30,000-60,000k's like territories do :P

T-BOOST · 23-01-2008, 10:33 PM

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E36/E34+ BMW's have craptastic build quality. I'm yet to see a good one, and I've seen alot of them

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then

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Originally Posted by Steffo

Yep, love the E36 328i. Shame insurance companies want way more then in is sane, or I could very well have bought one at one point.

You also have said

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Originally Posted by Steffo

I have looked at E36's. And E46's. I was looking at buying an E46 323Ci at the start of 2007. Also looked at some E36 328 M Sport optioned Coupe's. They were crap. If you think those are better built then Falcons you've got another thing coming.

Hmm and how do you expect anyone to belive your dribble when you contradict your self?????

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: and thats not the first time in this thread alone

Do you actualy know what you want? is your name Steffo? tool!

Steffo · 23-01-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by T-BOOST

Hmm and how do you expect anyone to belive your dribble when you contradict your self?????

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: and thats not the first time in this thread alone

Do you actualy know what you want? is your name Steffo? tool!

And crap they were. And buy one I would. You can get an earlier E36 328i for 12-14k. And as a NSW P-Plater (No 8cyl+, No Rotary, No Forced Induction, No 200kW+ 6-cyl N/A Engines)... for that sort of money, you're very hard pressed to find a better performing P-Plate legal car then a 328i (142kW 280Nm 2.8 I6, 1415kg). Will demolish any Falcon Six of the day without much effort, and while you can get a newer base model BA for that sort of cash... they're boats... not the most fun car to drive.

At the time (before buying the ex-demo Fiesta) I could quite easily have ended up with an E36 328i... however 4k+ a year for insurance soon put that idea to rest.

I see you're not letting up on the childish name calling though. :alien2:

T-BOOST · 23-01-2008, 10:52 PM

So you LOVE a car that you also think is CRAP with a CRAP build quality?
That doesn't make sense to me. Nor will it to anyone else.

Or is it you just cant admit that you speak.......

Maybe you should try to remember the statments you've made before you trip yourself up with contradiction.

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Steffo · 23-01-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by T-BOOST

So you LOVE a car that you also think is CRAP with a CRAP build quality?
That doesn't make sense to me. Nor will it to anyone else.

Or is it you just cant admit that you speak.......

Maybe you should try to remember the statments you've made before you trip yourself up with contradiction.

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I'm not being tripped up at all. There are many cars people think are built like crap that they love anyway. I still do and forever will think the E36 is built like crap, however they are, in higher spec form, quite nice cars to drive.

If you've never heard of cars built like crap that people like to drive (which means you've never heard of Lamborghinis of old, Ferraris of old, Maseratis, old Alfas, some old Peugeots etc etc) then, well.....

DirtyHarry · 24-01-2008, 12:27 AM

Geez, some of you fellas carry on like little girls. I don't know why the mods haven't put you over their knees and given you a spanking.

Anyway, to summarise the conclusion of this thread, it seems unlikely that BMW copied the Territory's suspension. Does that pretty much wrap it up?