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Old 23-01-2017, 01:16 PM   #121
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How many owners will do a 24 hr enduro is a commo though? They would have been better off putting the money into a better engine imo.
How many FPV owners did a top-speed run?
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Old 23-01-2017, 01:22 PM   #122
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At first when I had the opitunity to drive the new FG-X series in 2014 at You Yangs Fords Proving Grounds I was what a brilliant car but the interior let it down being the same from the BA series seats to the FG dash etc to be honest I was disappointed with what Ford had done to the last Falcon.

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Then you jump in a Holden VF SS Redline and you feel sick like you've done something wrong being a Ford true blue Enthusiat from day dot you drive one and think WOW!!! Sounds amazing drives amazing interior is upto date technology like the European and Japanese cars then you wonder why Holden have just done so well.

All in all honesty the last Holden have produced the best commodore till date.

Ford were just too cheap to spend the money on producing a better upto date car.
I would take the engine and suspension package of an FGX over a blingy interior every day of the week.

And the fact that from outside the commodore looks like a camry.

What power hike does the final commodore get again?
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How many FPV owners did a top-speed run?
Have done and will do more. Racewars Albany 2017
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Old 23-01-2017, 02:38 PM   #125
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tend to agree with this.

i went from BF to SYII Territory and missed the FG styling until I got my FGX last year. I didnt mind it as it was all still "New" to me and a far cry over the BA/BF/SY styling so I was fairly happy

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My brother got himself a current SSV Redline. One ride in it I realised how cheaply Ford had done things with the last of the Falcons - which is a real shame. The SSV Redline is really nice car and I was super impressed. For about the same money it was much better value in my opinion.
Ford did what they could with a 20c budget. I own a redline and wouldn't pay 60k + for a 2008 interior.
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tend to agree with this.

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My brother got himself a current SSV Redline. One ride in it I realised how cheaply Ford had done things with the last of the Falcons - which is a real shame. The SSV Redline is really nice car and I was super impressed. For about the same money it was much better value in my opinion.
Yes- The FGX XR8 was done cheap, all money into Sync2, sheetmetal front and rear end.

Ford simply bought out FPV parts bin, and without further development rolled out the FPV Miami and GT Rspec suspension.

I always knew this, but bought the FGX XR8 for the engine, 6 speed tremec, and raw shell/suspension.

It is a great value package to use as a base to upgrade tyres, suspension, wavetrac diff in rear, and tune up the handbuilt Miami with forged crank and inbuilt engineering to whatever power level floats your boat.

Sure the dash is utility, but the Sync 2 is great and ergonomic, and it all just works and is not a bad place to be. To me is a car with that nasty streak and is not quite "nice".

The Commodore Readline looks to be a "nice" car, better for average day to day use, but I did not want "nice", I wanted something that was a bit nasty with huge undeveloped reservoir of untapped performance waiting to tap into.
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Agree. Redline great daily. But as exiting as a wet fish. Nothing that a blower or turbo wouldn't fix. But I would rather just take the F6 out for a spin.
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How many FPV owners did a top-speed run?
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Old 23-01-2017, 11:28 PM   #129
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And a quick search on youtube shows plenty of Commodore drivers doing track days... so? Oh wait, are you guys surprised that Holden did the testing instead of expecting its customers to play the role of beta testers like us Falcon owners had to?
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Sit in a VF Redline and then sit in a Sprint. Then tell me which one is dated...... Sprint =2008
If you did read the statement i said the exterior of the VF was dated not the interior.

I didnt buy my Sprint to admire the inside.
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I don't thing so

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Ah photoshop.....
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What I meant was. This is the winner. Might be photoshop
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Damn speed limiters...
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What I meant was. This is the winner. Might be photoshop
John Bowe was the winner.
Balls of steel too.
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No. This guy is the winner

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I saw a white Motorsport Edition Commodore on the weekend

People complained about the look of the Sprints as the final send off for Falcon but look what Holden is offering - it looks like a kid with a box of crayons chose the colour schemes.
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People complained about the look of the Sprints as the final send off for Falcon but look what Holden is offering - it looks like a kid with a box of crayons chose the colour schemes.
Just my opinion

But isn't that their target market???
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I doubt too many buy the Motorsport edition for the stickers though - it (and the Sprint) aren't just sticker packs.
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You guys need to chill out. Ive seen my fair share of VF2's running around and its a much better package than the FGX was.

It got more coin spent on things that sell cars, this was always Fords downfall. Ford would engineer things that people were simply not aware enough to notice, or, it appealed to a small market.

Holden may not always give the most technically advanced car but they add the bits that help sell them, they marketed the heck out of it and ultimately got the last laugh as they sold more.

Id love a FGX turbo, but id happily have a VF2 SS aswell
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I would take the engine and suspension package of an FGX over a blingy interior every day of the week.

And the fact that from outside the commodore looks like a camry.

What power hike does the final commodore get again?

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The very last chance to make a ltd ed V8 Commodore and it doesn't get a single KW or NM over the standard SS!
Are we excluding the W1 with 474kw and 800+Nm??
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You guys need to chill out. Ive seen my fair share of VF2's running around and its a much better package than the FGX was.

It got more coin spent on things that sell cars, this was always Fords downfall. Ford would engineer things that people were simply not aware enough to notice, or, it appealed to a small market.

Holden may not always give the most technically advanced car but they add the bits that help sell them, they marketed the heck out of it and ultimately got the last laugh as they sold more.

Id love a FGX turbo, but id happily have a VF2 SS aswell
Just buy them both.... Both great cars. Ones just ugly.
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You guys need to chill out. Ive seen my fair share of VF2's running around and its a much better package than the FGX was.

It got more coin spent on things that sell cars, this was always Fords downfall. Ford would engineer things that people were simply not aware enough to notice, or, it appealed to a small market.

Holden may not always give the most technically advanced car but they add the bits that help sell them, they marketed the heck out of it and ultimately got the last laugh as they sold more.

Id love a FGX turbo, but id happily have a VF2 SS aswell
I agree, engine aside the VF2 is a better car than the FGX, it's just that one of them looks like it belongs in the circus.
The spitfire green Motorsport has black rims with red pin line stripes - I mean come on....

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Are we excluding the W1 with 474kw and 800+Nm??
I was discussing Commodore vs Falcon, so yes I was excluding HSV.
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just dont ask who I work for.....
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I was discussing Commodore vs Falcon, so yes I was excluding HSV.
While this is technically correct, like it or not, the W1 will still go down in history as the final performance 'Commodore' and a reasonable send off in my opinion.

When discussing the best performance Commodores through history, no one is going to exclude HSV/Walkinshaw/HDT/Brocky models due to a technicality. Just as when discussing performance Fords, FPV Tickford models aren't excluded.
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I had no problems getting mine, ordered in February picked up in April.
Dealers had to have all orders in to Holden by End of April. Up until then you could order what you wanted.. apart from that dealers where told how many they could order and they (I assume) ordered a mix of what would sell in their area and if you want/ed to buy one you where limited to what was coming...

For example I decided I wanted one and went and saw the dealer last week. I wanted SSV Redline Sedan, Manual, Optional 20's and the standard lip spoiler in either Spitfire Green, Son of a Gun Grey or Slipstream Blue... 2 dealers closest to me had nothing like that coming so I made some calls and managed to find one available... I was lucky in the fact that I managed to score a redline in Grey, manual with the 20's, but its getting down to luck of the draw these days...Manuals are especially hard to come buy as well...
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holden Elizabeth sent me pictures of my ute going down the line, my wife was frustrated as to why we had to wait... in hind sight I should have shown her the picture aswell..
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Ive been told i'll get access to the photo's of mine going down the line as well, fingers crossed its True...

God I cant wait to pick the Damn thing up!!!
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