2015 Ford Everest

[wranger]

Update Colorado interior....Not much to worry about I'd say.



http://www.themotorreport.com.au/602...-for-australia

[Nikked]

Just got the black paint out...

[naddis01]

I see they have kept the retarded round peg in a square hole look.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by wranger

The "New" Colorado had a development budget of $2B compared to the Ranger which was less than half that. You'd hope that with the awful driving dynamics and the rattly tractor motor they could have at least gotten the interior right the first time...

Seeing as GM ruined the ride of the Camaro that had IRS I don't put to much faith in these guys. The only thing GM has that's better then Ford is their MyLink system (the US system).

[chookaradley]

So they've done sweet f.a. The updated Ranger should (continue to) eat it for breakfast. Particularly if it receives some Everest goodies

[Orangejuicepony]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

I had a customer come in with a Jeep Wrangler with extensive modifications a few months back.

We asked him why he went this route, and all he said to us was:

I bought a Jeep Wrangler, and spent $30K on 4x4 mods and I'm still in front compared to people who own a Prado which costs $60K before you do anything to it.

Interesting outlook, I guess if you spend enough money you can make something do what you want it to, it was lifted sky high, fox racing shocks, massive mud tyres, LED light bars all over it, winch etc.

Yes, very handy for about 0.5% of the market so doesn't really have anything to do with this discussion. But interesting little fact.

But what he didn't tell you was how awful it was to live with day to day, yes I have experienced them and lets say, they are average at best.

As for mods, there are several highly modified ($25K mods) Prados for sale on pradopoint that can't get any more money second had stock one, so even if you are correct, its money down the drain unless you keep the car for 20 years. Again, totally irrelevant point, but interesting none the less.

(I know a guy who spend $10k on a GQ patrol and $10K on mods, and can go anywhere in the country, could by three jeeps for that) You get my point...

[Orangejuicepony]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

I like how youve got to spend $70k on a Prado to get this when EF Falcon had this as standard.

I also like how said Prado has the same radio as a $15k Yaris

As long as I get AM what does it matter? If thats the best you can do, then its alright.

[Orangejuicepony]

Originally Posted by Ben73

I drive 2012 Prados all the time and I didn't think it could do these things.

Ill check tomorrow morning, but I know the windows don't work with the engine off, unless it in the 'on' position. (every car I have been in is like this)
Touch sensitive doors only on drivers door.

I also think the touch button starter sucks in every situation except if you just want to get it and start the engine instantly. I know that's what most people do most of the time but still annoying in other situations.
If you are parked with it in 'accessories' listening to the radio, then you want to put the window down, you have to cycle through 'on' 'off' 'acc' Which is slow to do and turns the radio off for 10+ seconds and turns the interior lights on. So much easier to just turn a key twice.

Plus Prados handle like boats on the road, steering is too light and the power is far form amazing.

All fixed in MY14

Windows work with remote
Windows work with car off for a while
Press starter button off before shifting to P and the radio stays on, if off press starter once for radio (I don't do this though)
Handling is fine, but thats relative depends on what you care it to but it flies and feels great compared to the Patrol, but compared to everest and ranger? Don't know but I bet they about the same. 4WD is a 4WD.

[Orangejuicepony]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

My dad had a Prado, bucket of sheet. They drive likes boats and the engine is rubbish. Laggy, rattly piece of junk. He traded it on a Ranger and it drives so much better even with the leaf spring rear. 3.2 kills the 3.0 in the Prado.

And the V6 Prado kills the Ranger, but again irrelevant, they both work bloody well to do the job at hand. I felt the ranger was sluggish for what it was, but the 200 series twin turbo V8 is much the same, grunty but sluggish.

[Orangejuicepony]

Originally Posted by csv8

17..Flux Capacitor!!!
It should be priced similar to Colorado/MUX..to be competitive....

Would have to drop down to their standards though, I'd look at the upcoming Fortuner for that bracket, size would be comparable too, and they would all be ute based too like the ranger. in fact that is what the Everest competes with, ute based 4WDs not dedicated wagon 4WD platforms.

[Orangejuicepony]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Where else are you going to put the key? In your handbag?

Where ever the ****** you want, like I do, it bloody handy!

[Orangejuicepony]

Originally Posted by timeout

When I'm due for an upgrade the Everest is on the list. As long as it can tow a caravan , keep the wife and kids quiet happy as.

Agreed, along with Amarak (if a bigger engine comes out), a 200Series (or update) or if the Prado gets a bigger donk on the 180 series or whatever its called. Keep my eye on the Fords, but still worry about the reliability.

[Orangejuicepony]

Originally Posted by timeout

More than enough for the van. Looking like better value for money than the prado.

And when you realise that tow ratings are mostly marketing, the GCM (both car and trailer) with the downball weight considered usually fcks up most peoples plans of towing the full amount capable if they want to take a passenger and some luggage.

When the Ranger gained the 150kg tow increase, it lost 100KG payload because the GCM only went up 50kg. Sneaky marketing there folks.

The full sized 4WDs like the 200 or Disco 4 onwards are one of the few who can have nearly full GVM and GCM together, in fact the D4 is the only one who can max out both. It has a 900kg payload in a wagon! Impressive stuff, and it tows that load like there nothing there, both handling and pulling power.

[Orangejuicepony]

Originally Posted by Ben73

People are complaining about how the Everest looks. But I would like to point most in this thread are comparing it to this 'thing'


image

Everest looks pretty good to me. Especially that front end, quite tough looking

Most of them actually look like this, unless they are just used to go to Coles. Then they are as ugly as the dope who bought it.

[Bossxr8]

9 posts defending the Prado. Well played.

[RANGEREST]

Originally Posted by Orangejuicepony

Agreed, along with Amarak (if a bigger engine comes out), a 200Series (or update) or if the Prado gets a bigger donk on the 180 series or whatever its called. Keep my eye on the Fords, but still worry about the reliability.

Comparing it to non existent vehicles and a 200 which is in another price bracket all together. ($97, 096.21 for a Diesel GXL)

[apolloxbgt]

Originally Posted by Orangejuicepony

Most of them actually look like this, unless they are just used to go to Coles. Then they are as ugly as the dope who bought it.

image

Still ugly.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Orangejuicepony

Yes, very handy for about 0.5% of the market so doesn't really have anything to do with this discussion. But interesting little fact.

But what he didn't tell you was how awful it was to live with day to day, yes I have experienced them and lets say, they are average at best.

As for mods, there are several highly modified ($25K mods) Prados for sale on pradopoint that can't get any more money second had stock one, so even if you are correct, its money down the drain unless you keep the car for 20 years. Again, totally irrelevant point, but interesting none the less.

(I know a guy who spend $10k on a GQ patrol and $10K on mods, and can go anywhere in the country, could by three jeeps for that) You get my point...

No real point to it but i found it to be an interesting perspective.

[Vesper Martini]

My bet is Toyota will need to sharpen the pencil on their price as the 150 series will be around for a few more years yet.

[wranger]

Originally Posted by Orangejuicepony

Most of them actually look like this, unless they are just used to go to Coles. Then they are as ugly as the dope who bought it.

image

Looks like a praying mantis.

Judging by all the defensive posts mate I'm guessing you own a Prado?

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Orangejuicepony

And the V6 Prado kills the Ranger, but again irrelevant, they both work bloody well to do the job at hand. I felt the ranger was sluggish for what it was, but the 200 series twin turbo V8 is much the same, grunty but sluggish.

V6 Petrol would need the 150L tank because of how much fuel it uses over the diesel.

If you think the Ranger and LC a sluggish, then I guess the diesel Prado feels the same?

Originally Posted by Orangejuicepony

6. Be able to change a flat tire while bogged up to the chassis without having to dig out the spare

I haven't done much 4x4ing yet, but is this something that happens regularly?
Prados at work have had hinge problems on the back door after only a few years old.
My Brothers older model Seirra has also had rear hinge problems, but after a much longer time.
Seams like having the spare on the door is not good for the hinges.

Most 100 and 200 series owners who do a lot of offroad either carry a spare on the rear door or roof I have noticed. I guess something similar will be made for the Everest for hardcore offroaders.

Originally Posted by Orangejuicepony

Most of them actually look like this, unless they are just used to go to Coles. Then they are as ugly as the dope who bought it.

image

Isn't the shopping run where most Prados end up anyway.

[Vesper Martini]

FYI Prado runs duel tanks total 180L capacity, I would say that's main reason for the wheel on the back so the second tank sits at the rear.
note aside UK Prado sold simply as Land cruiser has the spare underneath so I assume has a single Tank...
Whilst I think the spare looks good on the back of a 4WD it would be impossible for my wife to get down, hard enough for me, so underneath would be more practical for day to day use.

Saying that spares never get used, so I wouldn't let it affect my Purchase

[Ben73]

180L in the older models (2003ish- 2009ish)
150L in newer ones.
But like you said spares rarely get used, unless you are into pretty hardcore offroading. Most those guys carry 2 spare anyway especially when doing long distance.
I wouldn't base a purchase on where the spare is kept.

[Matty4]

Originally Posted by Ben73

180L in the older models (2003ish- 2009ish)
150L in newer ones.
But like you said spares rarely get used, unless you are into pretty hardcore offroading. Most those guys carry 2 spare anyway especially when doing long distance.
I wouldn't base a purchase on where the spare is kept.

Here's an image of the new updated Prado.
Now with an 87lt fuel capacity, thanks to the spare now being under the floor.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by Matty4

Here's an image of the new updated Prado.
Now with an 87lt fuel capacity, thanks to the spare now being under the floor.
image

That's the UK variant note land cruiser badging

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

That's the UK variant note land cruiser badging

Toyota Australia have released it here recently as a Limited Edition to gauge customer demand for such a layout.

[boss351290]

Hate to say it, But I think its just a Extended Ranger like the Colarado 7. With ute handling and Dynamics at a crazy price. Don't expect it to be anywhere near as good as a Territory.

[simon varley]

Originally Posted by boss351290

Hate to say it, But I think its just a Extended Ranger like the Colarado 7. With ute handling and Dynamics at a crazy price. Don't expect it to be anywhere near as good as a Territory.

granted it is still body on frame, but it does have coil rear springs and a shorter wheelbase. the same You Yangs team that developed the Territory ride and handling also developed the Everest if that gives you confidence

[boss351290]

I hope so Simon. Or it will ended up selling as well as the Colorado 7 and Isuzu MDX. Holden started discounting the 7 only a few months on the market. Its been out for about a year now I have only every seen 4 of them.
If Ford think the Territory is a slow seller I think they better watch out with the Everest..... Time will tell.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by boss351290

Hate to say it, But I think its just a Extended Ranger like the Colarado 7. With ute handling and Dynamics at a crazy price. Don't expect it to be anywhere near as good as a Territory.

Well yeah it's a ranger with a fixed canopy.

It won't ride like a territory but it's not meant to, it's built to do a bit more off-roading. There will be some other car to fill the suv gap.