Good value second hand cars - COVID times, Falcon/Commodore tax

[fgpsi]

https://www.grays.com/lot/0001-20082...t-(matching-nu

[ford71V8]

If matching numbers as stated I see that as a good buy. 12 months ago it would be a steal.

[Franco Cozzo]

Why the big drop in value though compared to the rest of the market

[fgpsi]

Originally Posted by ford71V8

If matching numbers as stated I see that as a good buy. 12 months ago it would be a steal.

Prices look to be going down. the dreamers on carsales need to edit their asking prices lol

[fgpsi]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Why the big drop in value though compared to the rest of the market

because the dreamers arent selling their cars and probably have no intention to. They're just fishing for rare morons who will overpay

[fgpsi]

Sounds funny but if you're looking to buy aussie cars at a realistic price facebook marketplace is probably the best. sure there are some troll asking prices but most want to actually sell their cars

[DJM83]

People can ask what ever they want for their cars, they dont need anyones permission to list it, at any price.
All this sounds like is some folks missed out on grabbing some cash on a nice car they had.

[Poetic Justice]

I had a customer wanting to trade in a VF LSA Clubsport this week with only 4500kms on it.

As we do in the car trade, we called around to a number of wholesalers to get their thoughts.

The main wholesaler in whom I'd approach for such a car didn't want to know about it, citing a huge amount of money they have burned with HSVs and other performance cars of late.

The peak is past, it seems

[Franco Cozzo]

Could be the economic conditions at the moment having a say as well, the fuel prices didn't put a dent in the performance car market but the toys are going in fire sales with the inflation and interest rate rises which seemed to stop it in it's tracks.

There's a bright pink VN V6 going in Bendigo at the moment and the owner is asking $11.5K.

I'd be half tempted at $3K

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by Poetic Justice

I had a customer wanting to trade in a VF LSA Clubsport this week with only 4500kms on it.

As we do in the car trade, we called around to a number of wholesalers to get their thoughts.

The main wholesaler in whom I'd approach for such a car didn't want to know about it, citing a huge amount of money they have burned with HSVs and other performance cars of late.

The peak is past, it seems

Reminds me of an FG F6 that was purchased and went to WA from Vic.
I had it saved as i was half keen.
They (car yard) purchased it, went over there.
IIRC it sold for near on the same money that it was advertised here, after it was advertised for 10-15k more. I think it was just before the lurgy hit.
I mean if people have been able to make some coin by selling cars thats fine (sometimes thought about it myself, but couldnt) but it was kinda good to see that happen to a car yard

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Could be the economic conditions at the moment having a say as well, the fuel prices didn't put a dent in the performance car market but the toys are going in fire sales with the inflation and interest rate rises which seemed to stop it in it's tracks.

There's a bright pink VN V6 going in Bendigo at the moment and the owner is asking $11.5K.

I'd be half tempted at $3K

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Gee, clutching for good points when you have to have an 5L hubcaps in the description
Might ok if it was actually a 5L in a better colour.

[Giant Cranium]

im currently watching vu, vy, vz SS utes as ill grab one next year. its great watching them be put on at 25k and sitting for months dropping a grand a month. realistically a 12k car

[smoo]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Could be the economic conditions at the moment having a say as well, the fuel prices didn't put a dent in the performance car market but the toys are going in fire sales with the inflation and interest rate rises which seemed to stop it in it's tracks.

My mate has one of his mortgages at $400k coming off fixed in April, going from mid 2% to up around 7.5%. So in preparation he’s trying to offload his low kay VF SS LS3 wagon for $65k. 12 month ago he’d probably have got $80k for it but now realistically a $45-50k car.
Gonna be more of that starting early next year. Be interesting to watch the 70 series market.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Could be the economic conditions at the moment having a say as well, the fuel prices didn't put a dent in the performance car market but the toys are going in fire sales with the inflation and interest rate rises which seemed to stop it in it's tracks.

There's a bright pink VN V6 going in Bendigo at the moment and the owner is asking $11.5K.

I'd be half tempted at $3K

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Nearly 300,000 km. I'd buy it for $500 just so I could set it on fire. It looks ridiculous.

[BENT_8]

My Nephew has been on the hunt for a tidy BA to FG XR6 ute for work and camping.
Found a nice white BF with stripes on marketplace but gave up after 3 weeks of trying to arrange a viewing and being continually held off with BS excuses.
Probably just some dreamer who wants affirmation that its actually worth reasonable coin but too scared to let it go when it comes time.

Very hard to find any decent BA/F/FG of any kind in SA now, reckon id still get $6k for mine.

[fordomatic]

Been watching FG and FGX turbos with over 125,000km come down drastically. Cars that were selling for 30-35k 6 months ago are now advertised for 20-25k. Nice to see the market stabilise.

Unfortunately for me, Mustang prices have continued to go up in the last 6 months, cars that were 60-65k are now 70-80k

[Honest Gaza]

Originally Posted by fordomatic

Cars that were selling for 30-35k 6 months ago are now advertised for 20-25k. Nice to see the market stabilise.

Of the ones that sold, you can't assume they sold for the asking price of $30-35K...that's just the advertised price.

[fordomatic]

Originally Posted by Honest Gaza

Of the ones that sold, you can't assume they sold for the asking price of $30-35K...that's just the advertised price.

I know multiple of the sellers and know what they actually got. We have a closed group and talk about actual selling prices of our cars regularly.

I know someone who recently paid $37,000 for a 2009 G6ET but it had 50,000km on it. Reason being is I asked if $37500 was unrealistic for mine and he sent me a private message saying what he just paid for his and he was looking for 6 months for an unmodified one with full service history.

[Kingsley]

Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

im currently watching vu, vy, vz SS utes as ill grab one next year. its great watching them be put on at 25k and sitting for months dropping a grand a month. realistically a 12k car

Theres a couple of VY SS utes getting around here in 'Hot House Green'. Both are nice cars and sound good.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Nearly 300,000 km. I'd buy it for $500 just so I could set it on fire. It looks ridiculous.

She's the mighty Buick V6, 300,000km isn't even run in yet

Might be on its 7th T700 though, I'd rock the pink VN weapon

[fordomatic]

Originally Posted by Mesa

Theres a couple of VY SS utes getting around here in 'Hot House Green'. Both are nice cars and sound good.

Hot House Green is an awesome colour, still miss my VY Clubsport, one of the best drivers cars I've ever owned. Worth about 4 times what I sold it for now. (well, not the one I sold, it got totaled by the new owner)

[Sprintey]

Yep the interest rates are beginning to bite.

If you remember the thread, my pick for a covid buy with about 20K was as many XG to XH Panelvans as I could get my hands on. The fundamentals were sound: travel within the country was only option, half of young Australia bought a malibu surfboard... They were going for 7s to 15s for best/dreamers - a quick scan last night saw many rough to honest ones in the 3s and best in the 7s. So I guess I blew up that hedge fund. As for the fundamental certainty: the young all got hocked to buy a $70,000 VW Transporter on ridiculously low interest rates instead, who could have known?

Just noticed BA-BF Fairlanes are back to reasonable pricing, most sub 12K, unicorn examples and low km LTDs still asking 20+. The best BF XR6 turbos asking around 30s now.

The E series scan reveals the odd bargain, great original sub 5K cars; V8 Fairmont wagons ranging between 7s and low/mid teen asks.

Then there's the story of an F6 Typhoon owned by a family workmate about half a decade ago... a bit run down, wanted 15 for it. In Covid the best ones were 60+K asks... these seem still up there in their asks.

So it's beginning, I'll let Mr Churchill end the post:

"The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling expedients, of delays is coming to its close. In its place we are entering a period of consequences."

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

Yep the interest rates are beginning to bite.

If you remember the thread, my pick for a covid buy with about 20K was as many XG to XH Panelvans as I could get my hands on. The fundamentals were sound: travel within the country was only option, half of young Australia bought a malibu surfboard... They were going for 7s to 15s for best/dreamers - a quick scan last night saw many rough to honest ones in the 3s and best in the 7s. So I guess I blew up that hedge fund. As for the fundamental certainty: the young all got hocked to buy a $70,000 VW Transporter on ridiculously low interest rates instead, who could have known?

Just noticed BA-BF Fairlanes are back to reasonable pricing, most sub 12K, unicorn examples and low km LTDs still asking 20+. The best BF XR6 turbos asking around 30s now.

The E series scan reveals the odd bargain, great original sub 5K cars; V8 Fairmont wagons ranging between 7s and low/mid teen asks.

Then there's the story of an F6 Typhoon owned by a family workmate about half a decade ago... a bit run down, wanted 15 for it. In Covid the best ones were 60+K asks... these seem still up there in their asks.

So it's beginning, I'll let Mr Churchill end the post:

"The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling expedients, of delays is coming to its close. In its place we are entering a period of consequences."

Good competitor to a BA/BF XR6T is a JZS161 Toyota Aristo, good ones changing hands for around $20K mark.

Ideally I'd rather the XR6 Turbo because its less complicated under the bonnet, but its not worth a $10K difference.

I'm concerned about EL XR6 values, seen people trying to offload them for the $20K-$30K mark, you've got to be joking.

[bangm001]

I agree with some cooling, but these are some current results posted onto FB by muscle car stables. 105K for a 335 GT (albeit very low KMS). The others i wouldn't call bargains either! Thoughts?

[hackney]

Originally Posted by bangm001

I agree with some cooling, but these are some current results posted onto FB by muscle car stables. 105K for a 335 GT (albeit very low KMS). The others i wouldn't call bargains either! Thoughts?



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My son use to own #338 Cobra.Sold it for $110,000 a few years back, monster of a thing.Put out 728hp on the dyno.

[ford71V8]

Originally Posted by hackney

My son use to own #338 Cobra.Sold it for $110,000 a few years back, monster of a thing.Put out 728hp on the dyno.

Love the rims and stance.

[Sprintey]

Beginning to notice some drops in the covid-tax asks on common garden variety Aussie stuff here in WA - some slight concessions, some are big % drops.

[anobserver]

Six pot Fairlanes seem reasonable value. Although some sellers havent got the memo yet.

[roKWiz]

One for Franco, 1975 Ford Kruza motorhome.
Forget that expensive snap on truck.

250 pre crossy powered.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...tory_type=post

[hackney]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

One for Franco, 1975 Ford Kruza motorhome.
Forget that expensive snap on truck.

250 pre crossy powered.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...tory_type=post

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Walter White eat your heart out!