Dating 2006 - A girls view - Page 5

MaxinBlack · 03-07-2006, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

Ok lack of personal hygiene is beyond excuse for anyone, you should always be on guard.

Oh and girls some guys really struggle to take a hint so you really need to be obvious. Best one I've seen is the bump into hard or even the slight drink spill.

Aha - too much personal hygiene can be overwhelming too... ie. too much aftershave similar to too much perfume, especially cheap stuff...

Oblivion is my problem. Never have a clue someone is interested. It goes both ways guys... my god how on earth have men and women ever managed to populate?

mcflux · 03-07-2006, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueXr8

1. be confident
2. spend the money on looking good ie clothes, aftershave (echo by davadoff is good most ladies love it) who cares if it cost $160 for a shirt thats what it cost these days to look good DONT BE A TIGHT AR$E i recommned going to Chapps, Chaddy, or any Politix store for that matter
3.those balls you got FUC KING USE'EM AND BE A MAN NOT A MOUSE

1) True. The best advice really *is* to be confident.

2) Load of crap. My most expensive shirt I've got is a $30 t-shirt from a car show. I'm not dirt poor either, I just have zero interest in clothes. And yes, I've picked up wearing that shirt

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I recommend that people stop worrying so much about their appearance (hygiene is mandatory however!) and start being themselves. Looking all suave is not going to save you if your opening line is "I uhh, wish to extend... an invitation, for you to go to the, uhh, pants party", which in a sense is repeating point number one above :gren:

3) Depends on the context of the relationship two (or more than two

: ) are seeking.

BlueXr8 · 03-07-2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxinBlack

I am curious as to what the actual definition of a "date" is... cause if it is that where the male invites, books, pays and picks you up then I've never been on one. My ex used to break down the bill to the exact cent... it was like going out with George bloody Kostanza!

Shhit you poor thing i have never been on a date and not paid i belive mans job on a date/in a relationship is to

A. Pay
B. Open the door
c. pull the chair out for them
d. most inportant of all be a gentleman no matter how much your friends/people around you might laugh/make fun etc because all ladies want to be treated like princess/queens

anyhow ill open the door for anyone older than me male or female its just respect

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Originally Posted by Ghia5L

2) Load of crap. My most expensive shirt I've got is a $30 t-shirt from a car show. I'm not dirt poor either, I just have zero interest in clothes. And yes, I've picked up wearing that shirt.

sorry my friend you are totally wrong are you telling me that your going to turn up to Prince dressed like that and pick up im affriad not (prince is a very high regarded club in melbourne for those who dont know) stick to the saying dress to impress

you not going to put a $20,000 motor in a ****ty rusted out flacon NO your gunna put it in a nice shiney flacon dumped in the weeds with some 19 etc on it

hopefully putting it into car terms will help you all understand my friends

vztrt · 03-07-2006, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxinBlack

Aha - too much personal hygiene can be overwhelming too... ie. too much aftershave similar to too much perfume, especially cheap stuff...

I didn't mean bath in the stuff. I meant keep yourself clean, make sure your breath dosn't smell, your cloths are clean and ironed. I was meaning clean and presentable.

MaxinBlack · 03-07-2006, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueXr8

Shhit you poor thing i have never been on a date and not paid i belive mans job on a date/in a relationship is to

A. Pay
B. Open the door
c. pull the chair out for them
d. most inportant of all be a gentleman no matter how much your friends/people around you might laugh/make fun etc because all ladies want to be treated like princess/queens

anyhow ill open the door for anyone older than me male or female its just respect

It's no wonder I am getting cynical in my old age...

MaxinBlack · 03-07-2006, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

I didn't mean bath in the stuff. I meant keep yourself clean, make sure your breath dosn't smell, your cloths are clean and ironed. I was meaning clean and presentable.

Agreed!

**TUF_302** · 03-07-2006, 08:44 PM

Im a nice bloke, thats probably why ive been in a relationship for the last 7 months.

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MaxinBlack · 03-07-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by XRQTOR

Alittle off topic but some advice would be great, one of my closest friends who iv'e know since we were kids thinks she's fat because she put on 9k's since chrismas. She's hot and the furthest thing from it, no matter how much i tell her she still thinks that way although she knows i tell it how i see it. If she was fat i'd tell her, she was way to thin before but still doesn't have an ounce of fat on her.

One of my friends back at school was like this. A lot of it started as attention seeking, got to the point though that she became anorexic. There is no easy answer to this one.

FordFan86 · 03-07-2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueXr8

anyhow ill open the door for anyone older than me male or female its just respect

Just on a side note, I too will open a door and hold it open for anyone, male or female. Generally regardless of age.
I held the door open at a lecture room for 40 odd students in a consulting session as we were moving from room to room. Not one thanks, bar that of my mate whom I was sitting with. It's not like I wasn't noticed either, I'm 6'4" generally wearing a metallica/ ac.dc/ some band shirt and a beanie.
As for the clothing thing, I do have a few decent sets of clothes that I'll wear when the occasion calls for it. I'm not however going to dress up to try and 'score' and then have her find i'm much more at home wearing skate brands/surf brands/beanies/dark (cheap) sunnies etc etc.

BlueXr8 · 03-07-2006, 08:49 PM

damn it man throw one inr, or you could just let her know that you wouldnt sleep with fat chicks however you you would sleep with her sayin ''i wish i had a shot at someone like you'' could end up good for both of you and would be a confidence boost for her

EFFalcon · 03-07-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueXr8

sorry my friend you are totally wrong are you telling me that your going to turn up to Prince dressed like that and pick up im affriad not (prince is a very high regarded club in melbourne for those who dont know) stick to the saying dress to impress

you not going to put a $20,000 motor in a ****ty rusted out flacon NO your gunna put it in a nice shiney flacon dumped in the weeds with some 19 etc on it

hopefully putting it into car terms will help you all understand my friends

OH SORRY MY KNOW IT ALL.
not everyone goes to the same club as you, don't always need to splash out on expensive clothes.
as for the car terms? don't spose you've heard of sleepers?
don't treat those giving advice different to yours with less respect then anyone else, personally i'm starting to think you're a try hard wanna be.

BlueXr8 · 03-07-2006, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FordFan86

Just on a side note, I too will open a door and hold it open for anyone, male or female. Generally regardless of age.
I held the door open at a lecture room for 40 odd students in a consulting session as we were moving from room to room. Not one thanks, bar that of my mate whom I was sitting with. It's not like I wasn't noticed either, I'm 6'4" generally wearing a metallica/ ac.dc/ some band shirt and a beanie.
As for the clothing thing, I do have a few decent sets of clothes that I'll wear when the occasion calls for it. I'm not however going to dress up to try and 'score' and then have her find i'm much more at home wearing skate brands/surf brands/beanies/dark (cheap) sunnies etc etc.

i bet you got noticed just because no one said anything does mean it went un noticed

however i belive be yourself on all occasions BUT if you dont like who you have become CHANGE to WHO YOU WANT TO BE

if your open to what sort of music thing etc your into from the start she wont be shocked because usally these are things you talk about before you bring someone home. Hell my girlfriend is into RnB and im into Fall out boy, The Academy is, Panic! at the disco she knew it from the start and she hate my music doesnt me she doesnt like the rest of me everyone has thier good points and bad Block out the bad ones and focus on the Good ones if there is more bad then good they arnt the person for you

LTDHO · 03-07-2006, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxinBlack

Do you just stop one you see on the train and give her your number?

I travelled on the train for 5 years and never ever got a number. I would have been pretty impressed.

I don't think you should pee in your own pond with the work thing.

It's good to hear some of the younger girls have similar issues. I'm very early 30s, I work in a bar, play several sports and nothing - nope - zero nothing. Girl next door and great mate I always end up being.

I hate going to the pub and being groped even before I have a beverage in my hand. After 8 years I was traded in for a 21 year old... oh joy oh joy...
but I refuse to get prissied up and be mutton dressed as lamb and yet unless you do that you don't seem to get noticed.

I am curious as to what the actual definition of a "date" is... cause if it is that where the male invites, books, pays and picks you up then I've never been on one. My ex used to break down the bill to the exact cent... it was like going out with George bloody Kostanza!

Too the cent??
Serious? That's just discusting! He should buy!

MaxinBlack · 03-07-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

Too the cent??
Serious? That's just discusting! He should buy!

Yup - i am not kidding - how stupid am I as I did this for 8 years. I'm now much more attuned to things ... His other little game was oh I've forgot my wallet but let's not get me going on the soap box with that one LOL.

BlueXr8 · 03-07-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EFFalcon

OH SORRY MY KNOW IT ALL.
not everyone goes to the same club as you, don't always need to splash out on expensive clothes.
as for the car terms? don't spose you've heard of sleepers?
don't treat those giving advice different to yours with less respect then anyone else, personally i'm starting to think you're a try hard wanna be.

you my friend need to read a little better i didnt say they had to go to that club its an expamle yes i have herd of sleepers but i have never in my life seen one that is about to fall apart that was also an example its people like you who should be hiding in the conner im tring to help some people become more conifdent with who they are....

i dont know you and after that comment i dont wanna know you

you dont know me so therefore do not make wild guess at who i am because when you ASSUME u make an A$$ out of your self

Good Day

EFFalcon · 03-07-2006, 09:04 PM

Then try not to disreguard other peoples opinions as "WRONG" because clearly you're not the only person to have had a relationship.

Why should i be hiding in a corner?
Because i don't agree with everything you have to say?
Last i checked i've had relationships too, and i didnt go and spend big money trying to make myself up to impress.

FordFan86 · 03-07-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueXr8

i bet you got noticed just because no one said anything does mean it went un noticed

Really, I just put it down to stuck up uni kinds.
As for music, there are very few styles/bands that I do not know of or haven't listened to at some stage ;)

BPXR6T · 03-07-2006, 09:07 PM

Women aren't all that hard to understand in my experience. I have a number of female friends so maybe that helps. They tell me in very plain terms if I've been stupid.

My perspective is simply that women want different things, just like guys are after different things. i.e. some women want to feel protected, some want a sensitive guy, a good looking guy, a rich guy, a smart guy, a buff guy, etc etc etc...

Some women want it all, that's called immaturity. You can drive yourself nuts trying to be everything to all women or just be yourself and wait for the right kind of woman to come along. Depends what you want. If you want to get laid be everything to everyone, if you want a real relationship be yourself and wait for one that fits with you.

I find confidence is a big thing. Some guys and girls are over confident and come off as jerks I'm sure. But first impression is a big thing. In my expereince a confident but not arrogant person is much more likely to get somewhere than a meek quiet guy who is unsure of himself.

As for the pub scene, I got sick of that real quick after meeting some real pyschos. I try to get to know them and develop a rapport before I ask them out now. I typically meet women at work, at the shops, at the gym, when I run, and at the beach.

I'm much wiser now and try to get to know them well before it goes too far. Throwing people out of there comfort zone is good for that. Do a date which is weird, challenging, or unusal and see how they react. I kind of like the girls that will leap at something new and not give up on something first go. Flakey bimbo's aren't compatible with my attention span.

As for the question where have the gentlemen gone. If the behaviour of my male mates is anything to go by then you girls are in trouble. I was raised with respect for women so opening doors, being polite, and the like is just in my nature. Even something as cheesey as buying flowers is normal for me. I'll often buy a flower on the way to lunch with one of my regular female friends just to let them know they're special. But maybe that's just me. Keep looking, we're out there. Enough said, well probably too much said. I'm headed to the gym...

brenx · 03-07-2006, 09:07 PM

MaxinBlack : your chosen partner @ the time had pretty poor form.

I went to a wedding recently. The people at the table were discussing what each person brings to their relationship. It was funny to find out I have the role that most women have.

I work night shift, cook, clean, maintain the cars, pay the bills, manage the money and look after my 2 children. It was odd being able to sympathise with the 3 women at the table excluding my wife.

The other guys at my table basically worked, went out and drank all the time. Wished I had half of the leisure time these guys head. These guys have children too!

Bucket · 03-07-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gtfpv

JUST DONT WHISTLE AT ONE you could end up with a slap in the face, a law suit, the sack . or bashed up by the boyfriend . discrimination action taken against you. unless you think she is a goer. perhaps this may answer a lot of questions.

LOL oh hell no...i am not that kind of guy.. i was more along the side of saying hi etc etc, giving them my number or something and walking away...wolf whisteling guys deserve everything that happens to them in rebuke

MaxinBlack · 03-07-2006, 09:09 PM

[QUOTE=brenx]MaxinBlack : your chosen partner @ the time had pretty poor form.

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I wish in hindsight I'd have realised this back then.

mcflux · 03-07-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueXr8

sorry my friend you are totally wrong are you telling me that your going to turn up to Prince dressed like that and pick up im affriad not (prince is a very high regarded club in melbourne for those who dont know) stick to the saying dress to impress

you not going to put a $20,000 motor in a ****ty rusted out flacon NO your gunna put it in a nice shiney flacon dumped in the weeds with some 19 etc on it

hopefully putting it into car terms will help you all understand my friends

No but I'd turn up somewhere dressed as Prince.

And you don't know about my car :P It's paintjob resembles my $30 t-shirt. But the engine is orright

BlueXr8 · 03-07-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EFFalcon

Then try not to disreguard other peoples opinions as "WRONG" because clearly you're not the only person to have had a relationship.

Why should i be hiding in a corner?
Because i don't agree with everything you have to say?
Last i checked i've had relationships too, and i didnt go and spend big money trying to make myself up to impress.

I appoligse what i should of said is ''sorry Sir i dont belive you are correct for the following reasons'' ill make sure i do it next time i really am sorry you get that impression of me however i do belive you are wrong by judging me from a few posts i have made i havnt judged you yet and wont however its your choice if you want to be a keyboard worrior then do so.

why should you be hiding because i have been taught that if you havnt got something nice to say dont say it at all.

Negitive people sould be seen and not heard

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Originally Posted by Ghia5L

No but I'd turn up somewhere dressed as Prince.

And you don't know about my car :P It's paintjob resembles my $30 t-shirt. But the engine is orright

dressing like Prince i respect that

EFFalcon · 03-07-2006, 09:12 PM

also, if you havnt met Ghia5L, you wouldn't know just how far confidence goes :P
his confidence shines even when his pants are vacuum sealed to his groin :P

EFFalcon · 03-07-2006, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueXr8

I appoligse what i should of said is ''sorry Sir i dont belive you are correct for the following reasons'' ill make sure i do it next time i really am sorry you get that impression of me however i do belive you are wrong by judging me from a few posts i have made i havnt judged you yet and wont however its your choice if you want to be a keyboard worrior then do so.

i can get any kind of opinion of you from the posts you've made, you're no expert on the subject and so you have no real right to simply say someone elses opinion is wrong.
just because you have to spend massive money on clothing doens't mean everyone has to, we all have different tastes and different personalities, for that reason some personalities will not be comfortable spending that money money on clothes and will feel more comfortable in something either more suited to them or more in their price range.

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Originally Posted by BlueXr8

why should you be hiding because i have been taught that if you havnt got something nice to say dont say it at all.

Negitive people sould be seen and not heard

Then perhaps rethink the way you take someones opinion.
I'm not saying your ideas are wrong, simply that there are alternatives (which others have spoken of and you've said were wrong)

mcflux · 03-07-2006, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EFFalcon

also, if you havnt met Ghia5L, you wouldn't know just how far confidence goes :P
his confidence shines even when his pants are vacuum sealed to his groin :P

hmm I didn't know Chris had UV lights at his place!

Ultimate · 03-07-2006, 09:17 PM

Yes well my whole concept of the whole dating thing. Is i normally dress repectable, always like to be well groomed, and hygenic. Well basically it ends up in the your sweet, and more interested in a friend or someone i know. I always have done the whole pay for everything pick a lady up etc. But you know now many of them actually refused for me to pay for things, all of them except one and that because she was a real close friend first and i got up her. She just laughed. But truely i always try to do things to help anyone, it always ends up as your sweet and something with ladies attracted to the "bad boy" person that doesnt even come a looking myway. But yer i really dont know about the whole thing.

brenx · 03-07-2006, 09:20 PM

My wife decided she would persue me after I'd met up with her and her friend. Nice clothes? wtf for? Work clothes (jeans, t-shirt), hadn't shaved in a week or so (had a pretty untidy beard going). Was clean in every other way but I would assume I was miles off being pleasing to the eye. I worked 60hr+ weeks at the time.

BlueXr8 · 03-07-2006, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by EFFalcon

i can get any kind of opinion of you from the posts you've made, you're no expert on the subject and so you have no real right to simply say someone elses opinion is wrong.
just because you have to spend massive money on clothing doens't mean everyone has to, we all have different tastes and different personalities, for that reason some personalities will not be comfortable spending that money money on clothes and will feel more comfortable in something either more suited to them or more in their price range.

Then perhaps rethink the way you take someones opinion.
I'm not saying your ideas are wrong, simply that there are alternatives (which others have spoken of and you've said were wrong)

ok i have clearly stated that i was wrong in saying a fellow members idea was wrong i did appoligie and correct myself so let that go now

not once did i claim i was an expert so stop claiming that i did i mearly informed others of the way that i was brought up/taught to handle going out/picking up for others to try, i never said it was the only way to do it (if you can find a post of mine saying it was the only way to do things then i will retract the above) i only stated that it works for me and if your stuck then give it a go it might work for you it might not SIMPLE

XR8MAD · 03-07-2006, 09:23 PM

I used to be mister nice guy all the time, but all I got was the whole "your such a good friend" blah blah blah.............

Being nice ALL THE TIME shows weakness. Women dont like weakness.

Ive found if U be ALMOST arrogant with a dash of humor, girls will just love it. Show them U can be in control, that U are confident, that U are a leader and women will tend to follow. The whole chivalry thing is dying, and women are the cause.

Now dont get me wrong. I still treat a lady real good, but its a matter of not being walked over. For instance, U buy a girl a drink and U chat to her over it. Make a few jokes and when its time to get the second round say something like "well I bought the first round how about U buy the second." Say it with a smirk and see how well it works. This way your showing your confident, that U wont be walked over but also showing your not a complete jerk.

Just a little something ive picked up. What do the girls here think? Is it a refreshing change, or is it a put off?