What Luxury Sedan to get?? - Page 5

geckoGT · 16-10-2009, 11:12 PM

Brent, I am starting to think we should wait until you take delivery to see what it ends up

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Smoke Pursuit · 16-10-2009, 11:30 PM

Lol dont stress..

Ive been thru this for the last 2 days..

G6ET it is.. what a great car for the money.. I already knew it was good but its hard to sway someone when they want something else, but this car shines thru in nearly every department. Ford just need to add the the option of Xexons and led lights and its pretty much there!

demondan · 16-10-2009, 11:52 PM

The G6E T wins yet another fan. It's seems everyone who drives em buys em.
As the owner of a car that's a similar color to Ego keeps in mind it's nearly as hard to keep clean as Black.
If I remember right wasn't your color preferance in the Bemmer white

Smoke Pursuit · 16-10-2009, 11:55 PM

Yep white would be an option but they dont have any around apparently..

They have one with 19s in Mystic but im not sure about that colour!

As my old man said we would have to spend another 100kay on a car to get one with slimiar performance, e.g C63 AMG...

Scott · 17-10-2009, 12:08 AM

A little while ago I was shopping for my wife - she drove a C200, 320i, IS250 and G6ET. The Merc & BMW were dismissed immediately for being under equipped, over priced, under powered and just plain boring.

The IS250 was the standout pick of the bunch, simply no equal in the price range but if you had to look for what was the closest match, it was the G6ET. Not quite as nice but very nice, not quite as refined but very refined, not quite as blah blah blah.....

Mash the throttle and that's why you pick the G6ET lol.

Anyway, times changed (luckily before signing up) and we went another route - my point is that the G6ET is probably the closest thing you will find to "all things to all men" under $100k.

Good choice, she'll love it ;)

flappist · 17-10-2009, 11:06 AM

But then for a little bit more you could aquire an F6-E. Better brakes, better drive train, more farkles better interior.....

HSE2 · 17-10-2009, 11:22 AM

Nice result Brent.

Smoke Pursuit · 17-10-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by flappist

But then for a little bit more you could aquire an F6-E. Better brakes, better drive train, more farkles better interior.....

30 Kay difference in price!! Can't justify it!

4Vman · 17-10-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

30 Kay difference in price!! Can't justify it!

You got a G6ET for 45K????

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Smoke Pursuit · 17-10-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

You got a G6ET for 45K????

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F6E is over 80 kay once you add luxury car tax, stamp duty, dealer deliver etc..

Bought the car,

Ego G6ET with Shadow Trim, September compliance, will get it late next week!

V3RSAC3 · 17-10-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

F6E is over 80 kay once you add luxury car tax, stamp duty, dealer deliver etc..

Bought the car,

Ego G6ET with Shadow Trim, September compliance, will get it late next week!

Congratulations LOL

gcg2503 · 18-10-2009, 05:22 AM

Great result

Nice choice indeed. Mum didn't option the 19s did she? ;)

Smoke Pursuit · 18-10-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gcg2503

Great result

Nice choice indeed. Mum didn't option the 19s did she? ;)

No 19's no.. Only reason being rougher ride. replacement cost etc etc, i cant really see any benefits of putting them on other then looks!

UNR8D · 18-10-2009, 04:44 PM

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That BMW 4 door 3 series is an awesome looking car! Is that the same body kit as the M3?

no, that is an M3, they have a coupe and sedan versions in aus now, convertable is on the way.

UNR8D · 18-10-2009, 05:08 PM

congreats on the purchace, im going thru exact same price range/desirability with my folks at the moment, but they both have their hearts set on a IS250 sport lux, and that i am happy about apart from the lack of power lol.. but i dont drive it so i dont really care.

Smoke Pursuit · 18-10-2009, 05:50 PM

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congreats on the purchace, im going thru exact same price range/desirability with my folks at the moment, but they both have their hearts set on a IS250 sport lux, and that i am happy about apart from the lack of power lol.. but i dont drive it so i dont really care.

Luckily for me my old boy likes power, he hated both the euros because they were gutless...

**DJM83** · 18-10-2009, 06:02 PM

Be sure to put some pics up upon arrival Brent

XR6_190 · 18-10-2009, 10:17 PM

Well done, another win for Ford against the overpriced, overrated euros. This car should also be a massive step up from the car it replaces, so well done.

5.4 GT · 18-10-2009, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

Luckily for me my old boy likes power, he hated both the euros because they were gutless...

Haha thats the way! Congrats Brent.

ILLaViTaR · 18-10-2009, 11:39 PM

EL ghia

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Second hand cars are good too.

EDIT: Something more constructive, get the G6E.
Ask her the actual positives of a euro over a G6E? She'll probably just say because it's a euro; she's probably based the decision on peoples high regard for them and the hype she's heard, she probably doesn't have any justified reasons herself and is simply going buy what her friends are telling her.

Just ask: "What positives made you choose the euro over the G6E" and see what answer you'll get. She might just want the euro regardless and simply say the G6E is too big. Then you say well test drive it before prejudging.
As new big cars are a lot easier to drive/park nowadays.

Basically what I'm trying to say is, many assume what they want and actually don't think too much into it themselves, others opinions influence their decisions. Break it down logically to her and see if you can change her mind.

Smoke Pursuit · 18-10-2009, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by XR6_190

Well done, another win for Ford against the overpriced, overrated euros. This car should also be a massive step up from the car it replaces, so well done.

Come on the VE isnt that bad!!!

I wouldnt say its a massive step up, fair enough if we were going from something like a VT Calais then yes it would be but the VE isn't a bad car, its just that we rotate them usually around this time (3 years) and I wasn't even going to look at buying another Holden due to the fact that MY10 V8s have 10 kw less power and visually are the same!!

The FG G6E T I would give 9.3 outta 10, losing .7 due to lack of options, eg. Sunroof, Front Park Assist, Xexons or Leds (people pay big dollars for these options on Mercs / Bemmas, why Ford couldnt do a vision pack with satnav / xexons is beyond me!).

The VE Calais id probably give a 6 / 10.. It performs ok minus the gearbox, looks okay from the outside, but hell the interior kills it.. The FG XT has a nicer interior then the Calais, theres too much cheap plastic and crappy finishes...

gcg2503 · 18-10-2009, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

Come on the VE isnt that bad!!!

I wouldnt say its a massive step up, fair enough if we were going from something like a VT Calais then yes it would be but the VE isn't a bad car, its just that we rotate them usually around this time (3 years) and I wasn't even going to look at buying another Holden due to the fact that MY10 V8s have 10 kw less power and visually are the same!!

The FG G6E T I would give 9.3 outta 10, losing .7 due to lack of options, eg. Sunroof, Front Park Assist, Xexons or Leds (people pay big dollars for these options on Mercs / Bemmas, why Ford couldnt do a vision pack with satnav / xexons is beyond me!).

The VE Calais id probably give a 6 / 10.. It performs ok minus the gearbox, looks okay from the outside, but hell the interior kills it.. The FG XT has a nicer interior then the Calais, theres too much cheap plastic and crappy finishes...

Drove a VE R8 Friday night. Series 1. The finish inside is miles behind the FG

That handbrake is an abomination.......

Edit: However, the sound was something to behold! And given it was wet the LSD was fun too

Smoke Pursuit · 18-10-2009, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ILLaViTaR

EL ghia

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Second hand cars are good too.

We had one of those 12 years ago.. Back then it was good, not so good now..

Smoke Pursuit · 18-10-2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gcg2503

Drove a VE R8 Friday night. Series 1. The finish inside is miles behind the FG

That handbrake is an abomination.......

Edit: However, the sound was something to behold! And given it was wet the LSD was fun too

Yep the handbrake / overall finish of the plastics is crap.. but at the time we bought ours it was a brand new car and we were comparing it to a BFII Ghia..

Kaan · 18-10-2009, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

We are currently looking at upgrading my mums car, that she doesnt drive very much mind you, both me and the old boy drive it most of the time so its gotta have power!!

Currently she has a VE Calais V8 which has only done 23,000 kays in 3 years, we have been looking at Mercedes (C280 which is now the C300) and BMW 325i / 335i..

Whats everyones take on luxury cars.. Ofcourse my first choice would be the G6ET over all the euro trash but she wants a EURO car, no if buts or maybes.. regardless of how much I cry, reason with her about the cost etc, its a big no no!

Can anyone add any value to the decision making process, as at the end of the day im making it, providing the car is a euro and has some sort of power.. Budget at this point seems to be negliable up to 100 kay, but even then with all the option packs on these cars i can see the cost exceeding 100 quiet easily...

Any help much appreciated, and don't go G6ET because its never going to happen!

For sure Merc. You can't compare german cars with ford or holden or any asian cars. they are all rubbish against germans. Drive one and you will never want to drive another ford or holden.

Smoke Pursuit · 18-10-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaan

For sure Merc. You can't compare german cars with ford or holden or any asian cars. they are all rubbish against germans. Drive one and you will never want to drive another ford or holden.

Read the Thread...

Ended up with a G6ET..

As far as we are concerned.. The Germans are the ones that are falling behind, especially when it comes to ease of use / driver ergonomics.. I havent seen a car that is so poorly designed as far as the dashboard goes, and if I wanted a foot handbrake id buy a Toyota Aurion!

ILLaViTaR · 19-10-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

We had one of those 12 years ago.. Back then it was good, not so good now..

EDIT: Nvm lol I only read the first post of the thread.

kircher · 19-10-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

if I wanted a foot handbrake id buy a Toyota Aurion!

Off-topic, but I've heard a lot of people complain about foot park-brakes, including journalists, even going as far as listing it as a con in the pros and con list at the end of an article. Why is it such a bad thing? Cars in the US have been using them for a long time, and if it's on the floor, it's out of the way and it leaves more room for stowage and other things in the centre console. Unless you're a rally driver I don't see why it's a bad idea.

Kaan · 19-10-2009, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

Read the Thread...

Ended up with a G6ET..

As far as we are concerned.. The Germans are the ones that are falling behind, especially when it comes to ease of use / driver ergonomics.. I havent seen a car that is so poorly designed as far as the dashboard goes, and if I wanted a foot handbrake id buy a Toyota Aurion!

Sorry I didn't read the last pages. You reckon germans are falling behind. You are comparing germans basic car (c300) with the g6et which is one of the luxury, top class ford. apples and oranges story actually. If you want to compare you try g6et against e series cars. here is some an example of poor interior mercedes

Smoke Pursuit · 19-10-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaan

Sorry I didn't read the last pages. You reckon germans are falling behind. You are comparing germans basic car (c300) with the g6et which is one of the luxury, top class ford. apples and oranges story actually. If you want to compare you try g6et against e series cars. here is some an example of poor interior mercedes

If i was to compare apples with apples as far as price goes id be better of buying a Ford Focus Ghia then a C200 Classic.. A C300 Avantgarde isnt a base model Mercedes, its just a smaller less powerful version of an E Class..

Your ideas are good in theory, but not so good in pratice, remembering I drove these cars on Friday.

Mercedes certainly have a build quality second to none, but their technology and ways of making things work really dont add up.. Like the indicator stalk thats used to control the wippers as well as indicator, or the dicky cruise control stalk on the same side... Do they even think about this ?? Then theres the seat settings plastered all over the door that look cheap... Do i need to go on?

Then you go onto things like Performance and Economy.. Yay lets build a V6 thats produces 142 kw over 280 nm of torque.. :S