Top Gear OZ ep 2 - Page 5

FPV8U · 07-10-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

Having 1,000,000 viewers on SBS is like a stock F6 cracking 12s....

Probably possible but I would never bet on it happening a lot.

The funniest thing on last night was when the falcon was described condescendingly as "and is has double overhead cams" while the holden has "a true aussie V8".

Is aussie a city in USA where LSx V8s are made because the only AUSTRALIAN engine there was in the blue car.

Nice to see someone else picked that up, the whole F6 V R8 review was a joke.

prydey · 07-10-2008, 03:48 PM

why were the 'aussie' cars not put round their test track so that we could compare the times to the exotic euro's.

i'm tipping its the same reason there was no real verdict as they don't want to polarize the audience.

If you ask me, it won't work and it never will as long as the uk version remains. It will always be compared back to clarkson, hammond and may and that is just something you can't compete with.

Uk version would seem to have a much bigger budget and the presenters (esp. clarkson) don't give 2 hoots whether or not they might upset someone.

Nikked · 07-10-2008, 04:36 PM

HSV v's FPV was BS, that F6 left the line like a granny, after the clubby...

Rodp · 07-10-2008, 05:28 PM

I'm 20 minutes into the episode. I liked the GT40 or should that be GT43 review, well done. The Clubby vs the F6 review. They gave their positives and negatives and if I was a Ford exec, I'd be extatic that they spend half of the segment solely in the Ford.

It was a fair conclusion to come to, unlike last week they listed what they liked and disliked and showed their bias - bias is interesting. The LS3 in the Ford would be the perfect car, apparently. Fair enough. Yes, was annoying that an LS3 is apparently pure Aussie muscle but what can you do...

Can't remember the name of the last Aussie car show but they ran the F6 against the Clubby on the track. The Clubby looked well balanced and the F6 looked like a handfull. End of the day, the F6 posted a quicker time. Based on the laps though, your average Joe would probably have an easier time behind the Clubby.

The Clubby definitely got out of the hole half a car length before the F6 got moving, who knows if they factored that into their equation but the F6 sure did reel the Clubby in and pipped it on the line. That's decent bragging rights right there.

Dazza XLT · 07-10-2008, 05:51 PM

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment...016681,00.html

Top Gear Australia ratings hit bump in the road
By Katherine Field October 07, 2008 12:26pm

THE second episode of motoring TV show Top Gear Australia has slumped in the ratings.

Producers had hoped to crack the one million viewer mark last night, but instead only 674,000 tuned in, down more than 250,000 viewers from its premiere the week before.

Top Gear Australia finished last in its timeslot behind Border Security, The 7.30 Report and Australian Idol.

It was the 26th most watched show of the night.

Hosted by Charlie Cox, Warren Brown and Steve Pizzati, last night's episode on SBS featured a Ford and Holden stand-off and guest appearance from actor Steve Bisley.

The best audiences were in Melbourne followed by Sydney.

SBS director of television Matt Campbell admitted he was disappointed but said it was not "a disaster'', and there were many examples of TV shows that went down and up again.

"No one ever wants to see their second episode go backwards but I'm still confident about the series,'' Campbell said.

"We have to bed it in, it's one of those things.''

SBS were still also confident about a second series, he said.

There has been mixed opinions about Top Gear Australia, which is the first version to be made outside the UK.

Last night also saw the debut of SBS's six-part new comedy Bogan Pride, which attracted 376,000 viewers.

Australian police drama City Homicide was the most popular program last night, followed by The Force and Border Security - all on the Seven Network.

Ten's Australian Idol elimination episode, which is now only live in NSW, Victoria and Tasmania, due to daylight saving, managed to draw in 964,000.

PFPublisher · 07-10-2008, 05:53 PM

Here is a report on the ratings Episode 1 V Episode 2, I like how the SBS guy talks up the difference

The second episode of Top Gear Australia dropped almost a third of viewers from its record-breaking debut last week.
Overall, the program ranked 26th in last night’s prime time ratings, pulling
an average audience of 674,000 nationally.
This compared with last Monday’s launch episode which ranked 13th after
an average of 933,000 viewers tuned in to watch the program on SBS, setting a new record for a locally-produced pro-
gram on the network.
The ratings drop off is in line with the network’s expectations, according to
SBS. Matt Campbell, director of television and online content at SBS, said:
“SBS is very confident in Top Gear Australia. It is early days, and we expected some audience fluctuation as the series
beds in. It should also be remembered that it was several seasons before the UK series really took off. With close to 700,000 viewers last night, Top Gear Australia will remain among SBS's most-watched shows this week.”
Once again, Melbourne rated highest among the nation’s viewers with an average of 216,000, followed by Sydney with an average audience of 189,000, while Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth drew 130,000, 88,000 and 51,000 respectively.

bet they hope this isn't a trend

Brendon

falzoony · 07-10-2008, 06:01 PM

The only things I liked about the second episode is:
1. Got to see some cool shots of the F6.
2. The crowds disapproval of a FWD Falcon

I also liked the XR6 ute they showed but I have no idea what that test had to do with anything.

Daymoe · 07-10-2008, 06:04 PM

Now we know just in case we need to shift some gold ore from our backyards, we can do it in an FG Falcon XR6 ute...

**Falcon Coupe** · 07-10-2008, 06:09 PM

Apparently The Stig is a member here and we did not know ?

http://fordforums.com.au/showpost.ph...&postcount=418

Rodp · 07-10-2008, 06:11 PM

The poor ratings for the second episode has to be blamed on the first. It's not a reflection of the second episode.

On that, I was very entertained on the second episode. I was highly entertained on all segments and they got a few laughs on the jokes they threw out there. Those that tuned out to never tune in again, wow... harsh. As a standalone program, there was nothing in either episode that would suggest to me it wasn't worth watching. Ok, it wasn't TGUK standard but it certainly beats Australian Idiot.

I thought the first episode was a little weak but the second was a marked improvement. I'm looking forward to what they do next week.

Rodp · 07-10-2008, 06:19 PM

Glaring problem, watching star in a whatever car... TGUK version I was distracted by tata's, I'd remove limbs to spend quality time with those magnificent specimens in the background.

TGAUS, if you have the show recorded, everyone in the background is a woman and while I don't want to be disrespectful, I'd rather fondle a man than be seen in public with that 'talent'.

whingey · 07-10-2008, 06:37 PM

Where's Peter Wherret when you need him? Anyone remember Torque? I suppose they will ease into the role, it's a tough act to follow Clarksons group. Their test track isn't much of a track compared the U.K guys, it looks pretty narrow too. Anyway I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and watch a few more shows. It couldn't get any worse (could it).

XD 351 Ute · 07-10-2008, 06:40 PM

2nd show was better,a bit more entertaining.
Test truck sucks purely and simply as they don't show enough of it, or gave a proper run through of it.
Was good to see 'The Goose' give the test car a workout.
Test the F6 again, but get someone to drive it properly, and they won't see the HSV again!
Keep improving lads, and you'll get there...

Ed

Rodp · 07-10-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by whingey

Where's Peter Wherret when you need him?

He's busy trying on woman's dresses, who knows what store you'll find him in these days...

whingey · 07-10-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodp

He's busy trying on woman's dresses, who knows what store you'll find him in these days...

Yep, that's him! Glad to see I'm not the only old fart on here.

Loq · 07-10-2008, 07:10 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eHZhsF8hwI

**DJM83** · 07-10-2008, 07:14 PM

I enjoyed it, the RHD GT was simply awesome. The F6 vs R8 was a pretty good comparo aswell. Seems to be abit better then the first time round as the guys are coming out of their shells, the quarry test was pretty funny aswell

schnoods · 07-10-2008, 07:16 PM

Is it me or do they not like talking about the cars itself.

Not once they mentioned what was in the Ford GT, Hell they didnt even mention supercharged V8 either.

They didnt go over the cars they drove, they didnt even say anything about the gearboxes in the cars, etc.

We dont watch the show because of them, the cars play a big part too.

whingey · 07-10-2008, 07:19 PM

I think they should get the guys from Fat Pizza to host it! She's a bloody bewdy maaate.

Big Bird · 07-10-2008, 07:34 PM

I didn't like it and I wont watch it again.Does anyone know why it wasn't two V8's in the test?

**DJM83** · 07-10-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by schnoods

Is it me or do they not like talking about the cars itself.

Not once they mentioned what was in the Ford GT, Hell they didnt even mention supercharged V8 either.

They didnt go over the cars they drove, they didnt even say anything about the gearboxes in the cars, etc.

We dont watch the show because of them, the cars play a big part too.

You do make a valid point

prydey · 07-10-2008, 08:20 PM

just had a quick browse through ls1.com.au and seems their gripes are largely the same as the ford community.

its also very quiet discussing the 'drag' between the f6 and r8. even some of them say the r8 jumped the start. others drag the w427 into it but overall most seemed quite impressed with the turbo 6.

considering the w427 is $150+ and the best i've seen is a 12.8 or something and a stock g6et did a 13.1 in the early days, its not exactly something to be bragging about if you ask me. one member here has already run a 12.1 with a tune and tyres in a fg f6.

big bird - r8 v gt would have been a little one sided. haven't heard of any boss motor that performs well without a few km's under its belt and there is also a real technique to getting a clean launch from a ford/fpv v8. they prove to be very difficult to get off the line cleanly and seeing the skills of the presenters, i don't think they have much ability at all.

4Vman · 07-10-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

just had a quick browse through ls1.com.au and seems their gripes are largely the same as the ford community.

its also very quiet discussing the 'drag' between the f6 and r8. even some of them say the r8 jumped the start. others drag the w427 into it but overall most seemed quite impressed with the turbo 6.

considering the w427 is $150+ and the best i've seen is a 12.8 or something and a stock g6et did a 13.1 in the early days, its not exactly something to be bragging about if you ask me. one member here has already run a 12.1 with a tune and tyres in a fg f6.

big bird - r8 v gt would have been a little one sided. haven't heard of any boss motor that performs well without a few km's under its belt and there is also a real technique to getting a clean launch from a ford/fpv v8. they prove to be very difficult to get off the line cleanly and seeing the skills of the presenters, i don't think they have much ability at all.

For starters comparing magazine achievements to owner personal achievements at a properly prepared drag-strip will always favour owners, secondly its totally pointless dragging times from a modified vehicle into the equation, nobody to date that i can see has run a W427 at a proper dragstrip, till then its all conjecture....

prydey · 07-10-2008, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

For starters comparing magazine achievements to owner personal achievements at a properly prepared drag-strip will always favour owners, secondly its totally pointless dragging times from a modified vehicle into the equation, nobody to date that i can see has run a W427 at a proper dragstrip, till then its all conjecture....

13.1 was a journo time as was a 12.8 for the w427. both stock. i don't think i'd be bragging about the .3 of a second after shelling out an extra $100k.

i agree its a pointless arguement and wasn't the point i was getting at. i was merely stating that whilst having a quick browse of the 'opposition' website, the w427 was dragged into the equation by a member there. i just threw the tuned f6 times in there as an insight into how good these things go with very little work.

i feel we have moved off topic a little though. as for argueing about how fair or relevent drags are, the one conducted on the program was a joke and anyone with a little bit of knowledge on either car can see right through it.

au2sw · 07-10-2008, 09:21 PM

i didnt mind it, although i am a little tired already of seeing the euro cars on there all the time. they should keep it to cars that we see on the australian roads everyday. or at the very least cars that we can get in australia in any case. i agree that the presenters are too try hardish....possibly trying to keep up with Clarkson and the team (bearing in mind that the UK version has been running for a few years now with a spin off version of 5th gear)
i did find myself laughing at the antics of the Kalgoolie mines section....especially with the poor Stig doing a measly 30km in the tipper!! speaking of which, they really need to shorten the intro for the Stig...they carry on far too much with it.
and too be honest, not sure why they didnt do the Ford/Holden test with 2 V8's instead of the R8 and 'Phoon. not reallly a decent match...forceed induction against raw power?

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: i think the R8 against the GT-P or something would have been a better match up or a supercharged commy against the F6 or XR6T.
and i agree with comments that it was pointless with no stats or times on qtrs etc. perhaps a time trial by the Stig on their course in the future?
i for one am going to continue to watch though, as i believe the 2nd ep was a fair bit better then the 1st, so with any luck, it will improve even more.

baboon · 07-10-2008, 09:27 PM

Does anybody notice the sweat on the main presenters face when he does interviews and introductions? These boys are nervous and really feel the pressure.

How about the flames coming from the Ford GT hey?

Daymoe · 07-10-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by baboon

Does anybody notice the sweat on the main presenters face when he does interviews and introductions? These boys are nervous and really feel the pressure.

How about the flames coming from the Ford GT hey?

I pointed out that to Dad, but I think its from the lights maybe.

baboon · 07-10-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 90sFTW

I pointed out that to Dad, but I think its from the lights maybe.

Could be but I didnt notice it on Steve Bisley or Vince colosimo either.

INJECTED_250 · 07-10-2008, 10:22 PM

i thought the new top gear is a joke.. THe first eposode was so so crap i turned of after 20 minutes.. the hosts are tools.. there so damm anoying .... Bring back the REAL top gear and get this junk off.

**Dave R** · 07-10-2008, 10:27 PM

I just watched it and, personally, I found it unsatisfactory. Especially the F6 v R8 segment. In their drag race the R8 left the line half a second before the F6. Then they kept changing the camera angles so at one moment they are near side by side, then a second later the F6 is a car length behind, then the F6 is edging in front. Then it's behind again. It wasn't put together very well at all. They didn't say a word about the interiors. So they based their "tie" on what? A faulty drag race and drifting? Poor effort. And the ute challenge looked quite rigged - how did they manage to always end up in a convoy?

Overall I'd give it a 6/10. I hope they can do a better job in the future, like providing lap times for their head to head comparos, and coming in with a decision on who won. What, were they afraid to irritate the Ford fans (or Ford itself) if the Holden won, or vice versa? I'm sure they'll get better as time goes on.