Nissan GT-R Stigma/Attitude? - Page 5

pottery beige · 27-03-2012, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CAT600

Mmmmmm, gorgeous

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Love the engine notes, hate everything else about the overpriced heaps of dung.

PS: Am I in the "Stigma/attitude" gang now

youve changed mate....

gtxb67 · 27-03-2012, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

As if Ferrari would make anything that bad looking though

as if ferrari would make anything that good looking - they have certainly made many much worse . . . . and the nissan combines looks with form, function, reliability etc. etc. etc
the nissan appeals to those who want a car to please them and not care what their neighbours or others think

Nikked · 27-03-2012, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

As if Ferrari would make anything that bad looking though.
Ferrari are for a different clientele, they actually have a history, are a marque.

No sure if serious...

saam · 27-03-2012, 02:10 PM

As you can clearly see on here by the tone of their oppinion

both nikked and gtxb67 havent driven a ferrari or ever owned one but seem to be very knowlegable on their looks or reliability BASED on what they hear or read

fan boys much?

they are everywhere, on here, on youtube and in your own neighbourbood

I have a friend with a very nice xa sedan, but if you ask him, he has the best of everything on it, and its never been in an accident and has never had any rust etc etc ....

some people are just great at talking up their own machine, and talking down another brand

rant on brothers ....

**CAT600** · 27-03-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by saam

As you can clearly see on here by the tone of their oppinion

both nikked and gtxb67 havent driven a ferrari or ever owned one but seem to be very knowlegable on their looks or reliability BASED on what they hear or read

fan boys much?

they are everywhere, on here, on youtube and in your own neighbourbood

I have a friend with a very nice xa sedan, but if you ask him, he has the best of everything on it, and its never been in an accident and has never had any rust etc etc ....

some people are just great at talking up their own machine, and talking down another brand

rant on brothers ....

A good mate of mine (Lets call him "The Jockey") will have a 360 Challenge Stradale landing on our shores in the next 2-3 months.

He's been in one, a 430 as well as Murcie.............. it took him almost 2 years to decide what to outlay his money on.

In this period, I took him in the '35.... he tells me his new aquisition will be slower in all measureable tests except perhaps the "necksnap".......... I think he hopes to pull a few young fillies in it with this test

Is he worried it will only seat 2, be slower, more expensive to buy, run and manitain all while beaing quite a lot older?

No.... his ambition is to own a Italian exotic with a beautiful exhaust note and that's what he's going to do.

He knows it wont be as good a car in measurable terms but the Nissan is not his cup of tea.

But I always tell him he's buying a poser's car not a supercar!

Daniel

Kynan · 27-03-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMS290

Most "fanbois" are schoolboy keyboard warriors that have played too much Fast And Furious on Playstation and think that they are now Gods gift to all things automotive.

Good old Need for Speed

Nikked · 27-03-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by saam

both nikked and gtxb67 havent driven a ferrari or ever owned one but seem to be very knowlegable on their looks or reliability BASED on what they hear or read

Nope, never driven a R35 either...

But i don't don't get someone saying that a $500k ferrari is better just because of the badge...I'm not really a fan of badge snobbery...

Infact, i would have a F40 over a R35 any day....but if i had the money to do that i'd have both anyway lol (oh, and a FG2 GS for the family)

But, the facts are the R35 is quite a capable car for the money...and doesn't need to be serviced at a select few shops (mostly in the capital cities). A practical car with Porsche killing performance with lower price tag? Cheaper spares....

hmmmm

Whats worse then a GT-R fan?

Pig headed Ferrari fans

MethodX · 27-03-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gtxb67

as if ferrari would make anything that good looking - they have certainly made many much worse . . . . and the nissan combines looks with form, function, reliability etc. etc. etc
the nissan appeals to those who want a car to please them and not care what their neighbours or others think

But still easier to drive and less rust prone than the Ford coupes.

Japanese is Japanese, no matter the stats, no history or style.

gtxb67 · 27-03-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

But still easier to drive and less rust prone than the Ford coupes.

Japanese is Japanese, no matter the stats, no history or style.

and how much rust does your ferrari have - my coupe has none, and it is easy to drive . . . providing the driver knows how to

and sam, not a fan boi . . . just someone who can think for myself and values my money
therefore if i cared about purchasing either, it would be the nissan

MethodX · 27-03-2012, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gtxb67

and how much rust does your ferrari have - my coupe has none, and it is easy to drive . . . providing the driver knows how to

and sam, not a fan boi . . . just someone who can think for myself and values my money
therefore if i cared about purchasing either, it would be the nissan

Then what people say these days is right, Ford fans have descended into boganism.
Sad days.

Nikked · 27-03-2012, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

Then what people say these days is right, Ford fans have descended into boganism.
Sad days.

Hmmm,

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Japanese is Japanese, no matter the stats, no history or style.

You sound like you contributed

Its a shame this thread has become a Japanese bashing thread...

GT-R fanisim is no more then what Ford fans have for the Phase 3...

But it's made in japan so its worthless and only italy makes the best cars

**CAT600** · 27-03-2012, 06:27 PM

So funny how people assume that a Japanese car has no style.... and history?............ that's old news!

I've never been in a better car than the no-style "new kid on the block" Japanese machine, and i've sat (not piloted all of them) some high-end Audi, Fezz and Merc in my time.

Sincerely yours

Former Bogan,
Daniel Otway

MethodX · 27-03-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

Hmmm,

You sound like you contributed

Its a shame this thread has become a Japanese bashing thread...

GT-R fanisim is no more then what Ford fans have for the Phase 3...

But it's made in japan so its worthless and only italy makes the best cars

Italy, Europe, US and Aus.
Japanese have just copied.

Nikked · 27-03-2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

Italy, Europe, US and Aus.
Japanese have just copied.

More japanese bashing

gtxb67 · 27-03-2012, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

More japanese bashing

it is funny - people who have been on all of the previously mentioned continents and have been involved in design with all of the major companies swear by the japanese cars - nissan in particular when compared to their euro counterparts

G6ET8U · 27-03-2012, 08:20 PM

I'm not quite sure how the GTR in current guise has become or started out maybe as not a 'beautiful' car.

I think it is. It's Japanese as in style but so far away from a 200sx/Silvia/et al of the 'drift' brigade. Purpose over style but in providing so they have also provided a good level of style too.

Yeah, it's not 'European' in it's style but it isn't supposed to be. It's not trying to beat a Ferrari in the looks department. It never will be 458 Italia... nor does it pretend to be. Will it go with a Ferrari on the street and most if not all race tracks everywhere else? Yeah it will.

I think we are all operating on what you get for Ferrari money who we all know they have to lead the way with stunning cars. But have we?

Truth be told they struggle on their own to design stunning cars. Pininfarina have designed the most beautiful Ferrari's. Ferrari just provided the chassis to make it great. Convertible Astra is a Pininfarina design and more than a few designs for plenty of manufacturers but I don't see those as being timeless in design or have the fan boys attached to them. Ferrari have provided the engine, the F1 inspired sound and motorsport involvement etc... yeah you can't buy that. But you can buy style. Apparently it costs 300k per car as a base model because Nissan have proved the function 'without the form *to be debated*) because without the exterior designer behind them then Ferrari would look like the Nissan GTR. Form over function.

Feel free to shout me down... I'm flame proof.

Jack

4.0i OHC · 27-03-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by G6ET8U

Truth be told they struggle on their own to design stunning cars. Pininfarina have designed the most beautiful Ferrari's. Ferrari just provided the chassis to make it great. Convertible Astra is a Pininfarina design and more than a few designs for plenty of manufacturers but I don't see those as being timeless in design or have the fan boys attached to them.
Jack

The Astra convertible was a Bertone design.
This, however, was a Pininfarina design:

Definitely much less palatable than any Ferrari, the Nissan GT-R, the Astra convertible and the Lightburn Zeta.

G6ET8U · 27-03-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 4.0i OHC

The Astra convertible was a Bertone design.
This, however, was a Pininfarina design:
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Definitely much less palatable than any Ferrari, the Nissan GT-R, the Astra convertible and the Lightburn Zeta.

lol... red...

red is nice.

Jack

CFOUR · 29-03-2012, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CAT600

A good mate of mine (Lets call him "The Jockey") will have a 360 Challenge Stradale landing on our shores in the next 2-3 months.

But I always tell him he's buying a poser's car not a supercar!

Daniel

try to convince Ramon to start a thread, so many toys so little info, f6f 6f6 wrxrw and that s201, now a Ferrari. Mabey the V8 will convert him to the correct number of cylinders.

**CAT600** · 29-03-2012, 11:56 PM

Haha close.... It's not Ramon (though we are trying to lure him into an ISF!).... it's a mutual friend, well he's closer to Ramon than me, especially in the "Flexfuel" department

Daniel

Nic85 · 30-03-2012, 12:46 PM

Remind me how Japanese cars have no history? What about Nissan's motorsport involvement since the early 90's? Mitsubishi and Subaru in rally since the early 90's also? I would see that as history.

I think Japanese cars have had their own individual style for a long time. Evo's, Skylines, STi's - all have their own individually "Japanese" style to them. I think it's great to see.

flappist · 31-03-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

Italy, Europe, US and Aus.
Japanese have just copied.

Japanese cars:

Reliable, well presented, inexpensive to operate, strong resale retention, inexpensive to buy, well supported by both their manufacturers and dealers, durable, extremely high performance to cost ratio, low maintenance requirements ........

None of that has been copied from Italy..........

gcg2503 · 31-03-2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nic85

Remind me how Japanese cars have no history? What about Nissan's motorsport involvement since the early 90's? Mitsubishi and Subaru in rally since the early 90's also? I would see that as history.

I think Japanese cars have had their own individual style for a long time. Evo's, Skylines, STi's - all have their own individually "Japanese" style to them. I think it's great to see.

Agree 100%

The GTR is a hell of a motor car. God bless the Japanese!

**Silver Ghia** · 31-03-2012, 05:13 PM

Being capable of 0-100kph in 2.8 secs in the current GT/R is one serious car, regardless of any perceived stigma etc. some previous models may have had.

MethodX · 31-03-2012, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

Japanese cars:

Reliable, well presented, inexpensive to operate, strong resale retention, inexpensive to buy, well supported by both their manufacturers and dealers, durable, extremely high performance to cost ratio, low maintenance requirements ........

None of that has been copied from Italy..........

More like.
No style, no soul, no history
Ugly Pastiche of American and European styling cues.
Only about 3 classics, those designed by a European.

None has been copied from Ford either, especially the way Ford Aus has been going. It still here?

gtxb67 · 31-03-2012, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

More like.
No style, no soul, no history
Ugly Pastiche of American and European styling cues.
Only about 3 classics, those designed by a European.

None has been copied from Ford either, especially the way Ford Aus has been going. It still here?

this thread has gone the way le man's did in the late 60's - the bridge awaits your return

and by the way - the ford family owns ford. does the ferrari family own ferrari.

MethodX · 31-03-2012, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gtxb67

this thread has gone the way le man's did in the late 60's - the bridge awaits your return

and by the way - the ford family owns ford. does the ferrari family own family

Oh you mean writing a cheque and buying a win?
Like Ford with Lemans and the DFV

Yes it has. Ford "fans" sulking" like Ford did in the 60's
Maybe they will leave again and go from the GT40 to Pinto's and Mustang 2.
Got a lot out of those wins.

Piero Ferrari owns a share if you must know.

gtxb67 · 31-03-2012, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

Piero Ferrari owns a share if you must know.

10%????

ford are controlled by the ford family, not fiat or any other try hard car manufacturer

and as far as buying wins go, ever head of michael schumacher. without him, ferrari still would have been the biggest losers . . . actually almost still are

the term check mate may not have been actually spoken, but it happened long ago in this thread

MethodX · 31-03-2012, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gtxb67

10%????

ford are controlled by the ford family

the term check mate may not have been actually spoken, but it happened long ago in this thread

Who cares if it is, when they had to call in an appliance company executive to save it.
Plus many of the ford family want to flog it off.
Farrari is still Italian owned, thats the main thing.

Fiat is one of the pionners of motoring and were a grand prix winner when Ford was still selling crappy model T's and running around yelling Any colour you want as long as its black.

Ford Australian? Any Australian car companies?
Oh wait ford pressed a fender 1 year earlier than gm did in Aus, so they are dinky di right?

Oh btw remember changi.

gtxb67 · 31-03-2012, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

Ford Australian? Any Australian car companies?
Oh wait ford pressed a fender 1 year earlier than gm did in Aus, so they are dinky di right?

what are you going on about - i have never claimed ford australia is australian. just that holden are not either

do you actually know what you are fighting for and who it is against