Queensland Police Speed Cameras NO Affect to Road Toll.. - Page 5

olfella · 19-02-2016, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Carrion

This thread is like ground hog day.

+1 in before lock.

XB GS 351 Coupe · 19-02-2016, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by b0son

People get booked because they didn't comply with the law, not because they were necessarily doing the wrong thing. The law is not always right... that is the crux of the argument against the present scheme of things.

As a HWP once said to me... '95% of the drivers I book aren't doing anything unsafe'

Say what??

If you hold a license and you drive on a road then you have to abide by the rules that come with that.

Whether the law is right or wrong is not really relevant, that is for something to be discussed at road safety meetings and the like, which I doubt anyone here attends.

If they were not complying with the law they were doing the wrong thing.

Trump · 19-02-2016, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

So why complain?? You must be driving according to the rules or you are just very lucky (unlikely as luck runs out).

I'm not complaining XB, just trying to get the point across that punitive action to improve road safety is insane when govco are neglecting the most significant factors in road safety: the condition of the roads we pay through the nose for via registration and fuel excise and road design that doesn't lend itself to safe motoring.

Oh and I don't buy into the premise of "you've done something wrong if you break the law". There are far too many examples I won't list here that were legally sanctioned in the past and thus were "lawful" that were morally abhorrent and genuinely wrong.

lucas2 · 19-02-2016, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

Don't make be go start up my cpu and quote the article. It DOES exist and it DID happen!!!

I remember reading the article. Apparently it was misrepresented, but didn't look good regardless. Personally, I can't stand speed cameras that are placed in ridiculous positions, not to mention arbitrary speed limits (e.g. 80km/h on the Monash Freeway in VIC - reason is there is no emergency lane for some of the trip). I feel that as long as private corporations such as Serco are given contracts to operate mobile speed cameras, run prisons and detention centers; the system will probably never be truly fair, nor free from bias. From 2009-2013 Serco's "...government contracts have ballooned from $323 million to a whopping $1.86 billion" ( http://www.smh.com.au/business/what-...#ixzz40ak6YniA.)

There is always incentive for these companies to have mobile cameras possibly where they are not needed. After all they have employees and share holders. On the other hand, police officers I know avoid giving out fines for low range speeding, however they are encouraged (not required) to meet a certain number of intercepts (breath test, rego checks, warnings, warrants etc).

Road Games · 19-02-2016, 05:32 PM

Needs moar Hulk

Laterz

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blueoval · 19-02-2016, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DAZZLR

Needs moar Hulk

Laterz

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SYZ · 19-02-2016, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Carrion

This thread is like ground hog day.

Yeah... déjà vu all over again.

Carrion · 19-02-2016, 10:21 PM

Needs moar Hulk

Laterz

that's gold.

Thanks Dazzlr
I cant stop watching that GIF now. LOL

olfella · 20-02-2016, 04:57 PM

We all live in hope

Phildo · 21-02-2016, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jess1992

Also in NSW, it's rather easy to get a license if you are a girl with a guy instructor. I barely had to do anything for my Ps test and passed.. The instructor seemed more intent on trying to pick me up

Wanna come to Perth and get a modified FPV ute through a licencing inspection for me?

Road Games · 21-02-2016, 10:11 PM

Why was my post edited Gasolane ?

superyob · 21-02-2016, 10:46 PM

Insults will only cast you in a bad light noflac52.
1) there is a law against driving a car over a certain speed;
2) if you break that law and get caught, there is a consequence.

I speed, I get caught, I don't complain. Everybody knows the road rules and that they are there to be obeyed.

They are not there for personal interpretations or as rough guidelines but are set in stone, no matter whether they are right or wrong.

I cannot break the law by stealing from someone and then applying some 'righteous' argument in order to absolve myself when I am caught.

But I do see where people are coming from on the other side of the argument in relation to radars and cameras being placed at the most 'profitable' areas on roads and who are questioning the safety propaganda of various authorities...

Express · 21-02-2016, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by superyob

'Nothing wrong with the 70's. At least...we weren't overrun and dictated to by politically correct decaf soy latte sipping pansies...'

I just wanna say I totally 100% agree with your signature.

superyob · 21-02-2016, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Express

I just wanna say I totally 100% agree with your signature.

I don't think so Mr Express, I'm the only crank in this village...

1TUFFUTE · 22-02-2016, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by superyob

1) there is a law against driving a car over a certain speed;
2) if you break that law and get caught, there is a consequence.

I speed, I get caught, I don't complain. Everybody knows the road rules and that they are there to be obeyed.

They are not there for personal interpretations or as rough guidelines but are set in stone, no matter whether they are right or wrong.

I cannot break the law by stealing from someone and then applying some 'righteous' argument in order to absolve myself when I am caught.

But I do see where people are coming from on the other side of the argument in relation to radars and cameras being placed at the most 'profitable' areas on roads and who are questioning the safety propaganda of various authorities...

Nice to see you moderating the heat with this one bro......but then you go wreck it and sit on the fence...

superyob · 22-02-2016, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

Nice to see you moderating the heat with this one bro......but then you go wreck it and sit on the fence...

Not really, I am firmly in XB's school of thought but try to see the view from the other side as well...

wagnman · 22-02-2016, 08:24 AM

Can i just say, that i am completely against speed cameras, and believe that the police can get exactly the same results from the electronic speed signs that guve u a smile if your not speeding and a frown if you are.
People always slow down when they see these signs. I presume that its because it reminds them that it could have been a speed camera lol.

The imprudent thing for may people to also remember us that almost every new car I've driven in the last 10 years has had a speedo read around 5kph fast. Right now i own a hyundai and a range rover that both are only doing a gps confirmed 95 kph when their speedos show 100kph.
To get both of these cars to do a true 100kph i have to speed up till their speedos show 106kph. This means that in these cars id have to be going 110kph or more on their speedo before i came anywhere near getting a ticket.

The average punter wouldn't be aware of this error and would cruise along with their speedo showing 100kph and never get a ticket (in a 100kph zone obviously).

They would have to really be speeding (going by their speedo) before they got a fine and to be quite honest if they got caught is their own fault.

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wagnman · 22-02-2016, 08:25 AM

Wow its early and i havent finished my first coffee so if that sounds like it was written by a dyslexic 10 year old im sorry lol

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noflac52 · 22-02-2016, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by superyob

Insults will only cast you in a bad light noflac52.
1) there is a law against driving a car over a certain speed;
2) if you break that law and get caught, there is a consequence.

I speed, I get caught, I don't complain. Everybody knows the road rules and that they are there to be obeyed.

They are not there for personal interpretations or as rough guidelines but are set in stone, no matter whether they are right or wrong.

I cannot break the law by stealing from someone and then applying some 'righteous' argument in order to absolve myself when I am caught.

But I do see where people are coming from on the other side of the argument in relation to radars and cameras being placed at the most 'profitable' areas on roads and who are questioning the safety propaganda of various authorities...

I don't actually care what light I get cast in Superyob!

Trump · 22-02-2016, 10:16 AM

Attack the argument noflac, not the person.

noflac52 · 22-02-2016, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

Attack the argument noflac, not the person.

As said I don't actually care what light I am viewed in. I have been attacked by the person in question on many occasions in the past for no good reason, as have many others on this site and that is now my opinion and I stand by it. I have always made a point of addressing the topic and not the person in the past ( not attacking the argument ) as you put it but this is an exception that I stand by and I don't care what others think of that.

XB GS 351 Coupe · 22-02-2016, 11:19 AM

Has run out of valid arguments and knows he is wrong so proceeds to poorly attempt to cover his lack of common sense and valid arguments with personal insults that are completely against forum rules, moral rules and show a complete lack of intelligence.

You calling people idiots and stupid is the biggest case of a kettle calling the pot back I have come across in a long time, especially reading some of your posts in the past which show a complete lack of understanding of even the most basic concepts.

XB GS 351 Coupe · 22-02-2016, 12:43 PM

I wonder where the moderators are now with their bannings and warnings for this clear and blatant breach of just about every forum rule we have.

Personal insults, off topic, argumentative, trolling, unprovoked attack of another forum member who posted valid points to an on topic discussion, there is probably more if I bothered to look them up.

Poster has added nothing to the discussion, yet blatantly insults people who have added to the discussion and topic at hand.

olfella · 22-02-2016, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

Has run out of valid arguments and knows he is wrong so proceeds to poorly attempt to cover his lack of common sense and valid arguments with personal insults that are completely against forum rules, moral rules and show a complete lack of intelligence.

You calling people idiots and stupid is the biggest case of a kettle calling the pot back I have come across in a long time, especially reading some of your posts in the past which show a complete lack of understanding of even the most basic concepts.

**GasoLane** · 22-02-2016, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

I wonder where the moderators are now with their bannings and warnings for this clear and blatant breach of just about every forum rule we have.

Oh please forgive me oh wise and wondrous one for not being here 24/7 to watch out for you.

If it pleases you I shall give up up having a home life, so in future I can travel far and wide throughout the forum to keep you safe at all times.

**supershifty** · 22-02-2016, 01:25 PM

Thread lock imminent:

These speed camera threads always end up in ever diminishing spirals leading the same quagmire of debate - more so arguing than healthy debate.

Cheers!

Trump · 22-02-2016, 01:25 PM

XB GS 351 Coupe · 22-02-2016, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

Oh please forgive me oh wise and wondrous one for not being here 24/7 to watch out for you.

If it pleases you I shall give up up having a home life, so in future I can travel far and wide throughout the forum to keep you safe at all times.

No need to be smart, just a need for one of the many moderators on this forum to do their job which by the way you still have not done, but decided to be smart instead

I would have been banned in the blink of an eye if I posted up similar rubbish to Noflac.

Great how it is different rules for some.

olfella · 22-02-2016, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

Oh please forgive me oh wise and wondrous one for not being here 24/7 to watch out for you.

If it pleases you I shall give up up having a home life, so in future I can travel far and wide throughout the forum to keep you safe at all times.

Whatever you do - DONT SPEED or you will have to face more wrath

**GasoLane** · 22-02-2016, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

No need to be smart, just a need for one of the many moderators on this forum to do their job which by the way you still have not done, but decided to be smart instead

I would have been banned in the blink of an eye if I posted up similar rubbish to Noflac.

Great how it is different rules for some.

Smart? Me? Nah I'm just a Mod.

But I'm really really good at closing threads to stop any further circular arguements.