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11-06-2022, 12:29 PM | #1621 | ||
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It was made illegal by the gas companies to force people to buy Autogas, way more expensive than propane refills.
Yes I know, if it’s allowed, some nupty will get it wrong, incinerate himself and others but how many decades have people driven around with Jerry cans in their vehicles or worse, garages where fumes build up…. |
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11-06-2022, 04:52 PM | #1622 | ||
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11-06-2022, 05:31 PM | #1623 | ||
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Tanked the Fiesta today for 1.79$ in Marrick Vile
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11-06-2022, 06:06 PM | #1624 | ||
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I’d think the “illegal” part - if that is so - would be the act of filling the tank this way on a road-related area. Not carrying the bottles or possessing the hose, nor filling it up this way on exclusive private property. Good old Nanny State, might as well mention the ARC while I’m on a roll.
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11-06-2022, 07:39 PM | #1625 | |||
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12-06-2022, 03:38 PM | #1626 | |||
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Dunno if I'd use 'stupidity', more like 'corrupt, second rate retards' who couldn't even land a job in a sheltered workshop outside of parliament house without making dodgy deals. We should put them up on a sham trial like Nicolae Ceaușescu got in Romania Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 12-06-2022 at 03:44 PM. |
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12-06-2022, 06:17 PM | #1627 | ||
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Great historical reference there Franco!
Yep, a very silly country. Surely self interest is providing for your own, first.
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12-06-2022, 06:31 PM | #1628 | |||
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European context is a good one to use, particularly dodgy ex 'Eastern bloc' countries like Romania or ones like Italy where they're often the joke of the 'democratic world'/Western societies for political corruption. The only difference between Italy and Australia, is Italy acknowledges it has a problem with its questionable political class where as we just deny it and put our heads in the sand, whether its being one of the worlds largest exporters of gas and stiffing our own people by creating shortages in our domestic market, of a resource we have an abundance of, or water rights/irrigation scams Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 12-06-2022 at 06:48 PM. |
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12-06-2022, 06:50 PM | #1629 | ||
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Yes, reminds me of the end of Benito Mussolini and his Mrs, at the petrol station iirc.
You'd be thrilled to know on top of everything else occuring, Italian sovereign bonds are currently having an ugly spike in yields, a bit like the heady PIIGS days of 2011... help us, Germany...
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12-06-2022, 06:56 PM | #1630 | ||
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To be fair, it isn't entirely the Italian (or PIIGS) fault. The euro was designed as a brilliant mechanism whereby the European currencies were averaged - so if you came from the south, your currency averaged up in value and your manufacturers died out, but if you were Germany, you now could export to the world at about a 30% discount. The result of this has been the most amazing mercantilism, just with southern Europe teetering above continual bankruptcy. Add central bank induced bailouts to keep them breathing, and voila!
For Italy, default from Euro, convert to Lira, devalue, uncomfort, then you can design and build and export again - for Italy has a long tradition of awesome engineering. But I digress.
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13-06-2022, 06:52 PM | #1631 | |||
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Must be a perfect storm of selling all our resources to the lowest bidder |
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13-06-2022, 08:10 PM | #1632 | |||
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14-06-2022, 06:06 PM | #1633 | ||
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And we laugh at North Korea for losing power all the time…
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14-06-2022, 08:02 PM | #1634 | ||
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Any bets on 91 to be $2.50/litre by August?
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14-06-2022, 08:25 PM | #1635 | ||
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14-06-2022, 08:53 PM | #1636 | ||
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Fuel jumping across sydney again. 91 at $2.25 for the most part.
Can easily still be had at mid $1.80s if one was to shop around.
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15-06-2022, 12:32 AM | #1637 | ||
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Currently in Singapore.
Premium is around $4, unleaded around $3.5 and diesel around $3.15 at the local Shell.. And that's Singapore dollars. Add about 5% more for AUD. Will take a picture tomorrow for future reference. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
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15-06-2022, 08:15 AM | #1638 | |||||
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Imagine selling out the country for less than a million bucks combined, wouldn't even buy you a house in Granville/Guildford where all those shootings are happening in western Sydney, what a joke New Government is off to a great start: Quote:
That's what $400,000 buys you, $100B+ yearly profits without tax. Interesting strategy 'asking to do the right thing', maybe Ukraine should ask Russia 'to do the right thing' and their war will be over tomorrow Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 15-06-2022 at 08:35 AM. |
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15-06-2022, 01:04 PM | #1639 | ||
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Why am I not surprised.
Asking corporates to do the right thing is the easiest /lazy option of the government as they don’t have to do or spend anything. It beggars belief that a low cost domestic supply of whatever petajoules required wasn’t hammered out as part of the original approvals for coal seam gas and off shore gas projects. I could only imagine that would have done wonders for transformation of the power industry away from coal and into gas and renewables…. and widespread use of CNG over petrol. Sorry, I know I’m captain hindsight but surely the oxygen theifs could have done more when negotiating away our resources… |
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15-06-2022, 01:06 PM | #1640 | |||
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It's so blatant and there's no mechanism to prevent it, so it'll keep happening. Especially as people keep voting for the two majors, the only difference is the colour tie they wear, both on the take - they don't even do corruption properly that's how lame our political class are. In 2032, let's see where Chris Bowen is working. |
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15-06-2022, 01:14 PM | #1641 | ||
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Agreed, the kickbacks are a joke even compared to what Sydney councillors take for favouring development applications. (Which is so entrenched I think there’s a table for calculating it in Rawlinson’s Guide…)
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15-06-2022, 04:59 PM | #1642 | ||
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Rather than outright corruption, I think it’s simply utter stupidity and lack of foresight when negotiating deals,
They’re afraid of asking for things not in the investment contract for fear that the deal will be killed off…it’s madness |
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15-06-2022, 05:21 PM | #1643 | ||
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I agree with Franco and CB, total corruption lining their own pockets and are well aware of what they are doing. Just have to see the plum jobs (usually consulting jobs) they score after politics. Funny that.
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15-06-2022, 05:25 PM | #1644 | |||
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I cannot believe a power generator in this country can deliberately cut generation so that the regulator jumps in and demands the output is increased and then pay a massive penalty to that generator when it was their action which caused the shortfall to exist in the first place. The contract should read, produce as much as is needed, if you cannot meet demand then you pay a penalty for the shortfall...it's not that hard ffs. Last edited by Dr Smith; 15-06-2022 at 05:31 PM. |
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15-06-2022, 05:58 PM | #1645 | ||
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All of the power issue began exactly when the price cap was imposed last week, a whole bunch of unforeseen (by inept negotiators) consequences in the supply contract. Again, this has to be down to stupid people negotiating contract conditions thinking that they are so smart getting discounts and controlling prices when they actually don’t.
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15-06-2022, 09:28 PM | #1646 | ||
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thing is though, that they aren't even our corporates. most are foreign majority owned
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Because there is no accountability framework nor independent anti corruption function (independent as in funding and staff are controlled outside of parliament house) for our politicians, this keeps happening. There's no disincentive for our politicians to not sell us all down the river, that's why you end up with all these groups hedging their bets by donating to the major political parties, and former MPs ending up as CEOs or 'consultants', usually in the areas they had portfolios. Seems VERY suspicious, they know what they're doing when they make terrible decisions and its networking/relationship building for life post politics. If you don't have to answer to anyone, nor are there any repercussions, why wouldn't you be making these deals? This all started with the privatisation of government infrastructure - why would you privatise essential services like energy and water? Because of the high resources prices at the moment, the generators are withdrawing their services, creating energy shortages because they're losing money. Its a business, the more they return to their shareholders the better the CEO's pay packet is going to be, an essential service has been corporatised for very short term gain. They can withdraw supply of energy to artificially drive up prices - and its completely legal. Regardless of which colour tie you wear, its been a failure on behalf of both major parties and not a small failure either, they've all had decades to intervene federally, and even the states (see WA and its gas legislation) have the ability to intervene as well but they haven't. I think it will do some good for everyone to go without power for a couple of days in winter so they can reflect on how we got here. This is a great test for all the current state governments and especially for the brand new federal government, they can intervene and stop it, watch their moves, and then in 10 years time see where the people with the key portfolios are working. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 15-06-2022 at 10:28 PM. |
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15-06-2022, 10:20 PM | #1649 | |||
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something for them, it costs no money and no legislative effort to ask and beyond that, there’s no guarantee that our federal government will act if those corporations decline. |
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16-06-2022, 06:46 AM | #1650 | ||
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Plus the Green movement in Europe considers natural gas OK vs coal, Biomass burning waste to generate electricity also OK, Nuclear OK....why do we have greens here with a different view on these fuel energy sources?
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