FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread - Page 55

spyman03 · 20-02-2014, 11:15 PM

Signing off for now

Keep safe

Spyman

blk6t · 21-02-2014, 07:46 AM

Are Ford Australia really monitoring this thread...how pathetic are Ford Australia being...sorry but this is the last Falcon, Ford should be on here releasing snippets and creating hype. I would love to see Ford Australia really engage with this forum with the last Falcon. Safe to say that the largest collective group of Ford Australia fans are the members on this forum!

CyberWasp · 21-02-2014, 07:57 AM

May be they are monitoring the thread so they can send a personal invite to all of on here that do care to have a sneak peak when the time comes before the rest of the world.......
Ok yes I am dreaming.

csv8 · 21-02-2014, 08:28 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if FORD was monitoring all social media for opinions on Ford. Pity, they don't take notice of opinions.

FPV8U · 21-02-2014, 08:40 AM

Quite like that escort rear end over the chopped versions we have seen so far, that with some "Falconisation" gets me a bit excited. TBH i hadn't really been that excited about this thing and had planned on getting stuck into my BA a bit more but this is making me hesitate (Again)

A Factory Supercharged XR8 with all the goodies of the FG GT not to mention the "Last Falcon" Aura might be too much to pass up, even if it puts me back into car debt.

stevefreestyle · 21-02-2014, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Focused

I'm enjoying seeing all of these photos but you've got to be sensible about this. If some of Ford Aus's employees are somewhat morally dubious, they're completely right in seeking them out. Do you think Detroit is going to give Ford Aus projects if the public (and their competitors) are seeing projects well ahead of their public debuts?

If you're going to ignore the part of your contract about secrecy, you may well ignore other parts of it (ie hours worked) and I wouldn't want you working for me.
PS I realize spyman doesn't work for Ford, but I dare say that he's being tipped off by people that do.

So the Mustang wasn't leaked.....? Look again...sometimes it suites their purpose to generate interest..even if it is not the final product.

Focused · 21-02-2014, 11:19 AM

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I wouldn't be surprised if FORD was monitoring all social media for opinions on Ford. Pity, they don't take notice of opinions.

Of course they are. And of course they're taking notice of *qualified opinions.
*qualifications: actually buying new Falcons and at reasonably intervals.
Back when it was revealed that Ford were working on a Falcon-based SUV (E265 I believe it was called) I'm sure that social media would have been filled with 16 year olds stating that such a project is a joke because SUVs handle poorly and look ugly. Fortunately Ford ignored these and actually talked to customers, and they created the incredibly popular Territory.

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Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

So the Mustang wasn't leaked.....? Look again...sometimes it suites their purpose to generate interest..even if it is not the final product.

I don't recall saying that the Mustang wasn't leaked... I believe we saw photos of the car a few days before it was officially revealed...

And Ford have revealed images of the new Falcon... twice. I'd happily bet my house that if Ford did start revealing vague teaser photos of the new Falcon, you guys would all be on here whingeing about how bad the teaser pics are. Then, on the other hand, if Ford revealed the whole car now, you'd be whingeing about Ford revealing a car that won't go on sale for another 6 months.

Thunder · 21-02-2014, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Focused

Of course they are. And of course they're taking notice of *qualified opinions.
*qualifications: actually buying new Falcons and at reasonably intervals.

Hi Ford Australia

I am a business owner, looking for 2 new FH Falcons.

Both to have some fruit inside including:

Keyless entry
Keyless start
Heated seats
and of course carry over current features

Can i order right now one XR8 in Pearl White and one G6E in Metallic silver please.

If you cant provide this product by October, let me know soon, im sure i can find this product elsewhere and buy it pre june 30.

LOL can i be more clearer as a customer?

rst2000 · 21-02-2014, 12:15 PM

[QUOTE=Thunder;5027499

Keyless entry
Keyless start
Heated seats
and of course carry over current features

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Smoke Pursuit · 21-02-2014, 12:20 PM

Yeah good luck with heated seats!!

Thunder · 21-02-2014, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DASH GT

Yeah good luck with heated seats!!

I have arthritis, and only 35 years old, heated seats help. I have had heated seats in my cars continuously since 2008. The VF offer them. I dont see why Fords "Flagship" G6E cant have them in 2014, seeing as though its competitor in 2008 had them (Accord V6 luxury)

I bought a FGm2 G6E, but i wont buy another without them

Hate to stir the pot, im a genuine new car buyer, i buy 2 to 3 new cars (average $50k each) every couple years. I dont like going backwards with comfort.

Focused · 21-02-2014, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder

Both to have some fruit inside including:

Keyless entry
Keyless start
Heated seats
and of course carry over current features

You've been able to get all of that in the Mondeo for years... plus a whole lot more (blind spot warning, auto brakes, radar cruise control).

Thunder · 21-02-2014, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Focused

You've been able to get all of that in the Mondeo for years... plus a whole lot more (blind spot warning, auto brakes, radar cruise control).

And where can i by one with six cylinder or eight cylinder grunt please?

rst2000 · 21-02-2014, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Focused

You've been able to get all of that in the Mondeo for years... plus a whole lot more (blind spot warning, auto brakes, radar cruise control).

but, where is my rwd...

Road_Warrior · 21-02-2014, 01:22 PM

How come your post has a black box around it

rst2000 · 21-02-2014, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

How come your post has a black box around it

like this.........because i thought i would do something different

Focused · 21-02-2014, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rst2000

but, where is my rwd...

Sorry I forgot, there's still 10* people in Australia who want and are willing to part company with $40-70K for a large RWD sedan.

*I'll admit there's probably a few more than 10... maybe 100? I'd expect that the majority of people currently buying Falcon and Commodores (fleets) have no idea and don't care which wheels are driving.

nightchook · 21-02-2014, 01:27 PM

So would those who paid $70 odd for a 335 GT be upset to see an identically powered 335 XR8 for $50 odd? just asking

**Polyal** · 21-02-2014, 01:30 PM

They will always have the badge and thats enough for them. All good.

Dauphin · 21-02-2014, 01:44 PM

I wished to see a return to marketing of the old names for the final fling, with FX designation that someone already suggested, an S Pack, Futura, Fairmont and Ghia, usual XRs, Falcon GT/GTP/GTR, and a super duper fully-optioned model with some extra wood and chrome called the Ford Excelsior, or similar.

Smoke Pursuit · 21-02-2014, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dauphin

I wished to see a return to marketing of the old names for the final fling, with FX designation that someone already suggested, an S Pack, Futura, Fairmont and Ghia, usual XRs, Falcon GT/GTP/GTR, and a super duper fully-optioned model with some extra wood and chrome called the Ford Excelsior, or similar.

yeah lets kill it quicker.

Dropping Fairmont and Ghia were the best thing that Ford did back in 2008..

Dauphin · 21-02-2014, 02:17 PM

Why's that mate?

The Lone Ranger · 21-02-2014, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DASH GT

yeah lets kill it quicker.

Dropping Fairmont and Ghia were the best thing that Ford did back in 2008..

Brent....Really?

Darren

Rodge · 21-02-2014, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder

Hi Ford Australia

I am a business owner, looking for 2 new FH Falcons.

Both to have some fruit inside including:

Keyless entry
Keyless start
Heated seats
and of course carry over current features

Can i order right now one XR8 in Pearl White and one G6E in Metallic silver please.

If you cant provide this product by October, let me know soon, im sure i can find this product elsewhere and buy it pre june 30.

LOL can i be more clearer as a customer?

I agree that current technology level's are woefully inadequate. To be honest if you need the heated seats you might as well just buy a VF Holden mate and be done with it and get a heap of other technology that won't be in any FH. Ford have made it very tough to be a loyal fan if you love up to date standards of technology with your large RWD car.

**Professor Farnsworth** · 21-02-2014, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodge

I agree that current technology level's are woefully inadequate. To be honest if you need the heated seats you might as well just buy a VF Holden mate and be done with it and get a heap of other technology that won't be in any FH. Ford have made it very tough to be a loyal fan if you love up to date standards of technology with your large RWD car.

Mine is comfortable, looks good, has more than enough features and goes like the clappers so who cares? The guy in the VF SS can extend over his HUD and pushbutton start while I take off and can't wipe the smile off my face. There's already enough tech to go wrong in my Falcon once out of warranty, don't need more. My Rio has more tech in it (including keyless/pushbutton/DRL's/hillstart/auto demister/mirror demister & folding mirrors (electric)/LED indicators/LED Tail&Brake lights/direct inject/million other things) and it punches hard for a 1.6 (103kw) with a 6 manual, but it doesn't make me smile like the Falcon does. If you buy a car purely for tech rather than how it makes you feel when you drive it, you certainly buy with different criterion to me.

b0son · 21-02-2014, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodge

I agree that current technology level's are woefully inadequate. To be honest if you need the heated seats you might as well just buy a VF Holden mate and be done with it and get a heap of other technology that won't be in any FH. Ford have made it very tough to be a loyal fan if you love up to date standards of technology with your large RWD car.

This. The little touches in my VF make it such a hard package to go past. Little things like aircon that turns itself down when you take a call, HUD, speed limits that show up on the HUD, satnav directions displayed on the HUD, etc.

They might seem ****y, but really, the only people I hear saying those sorts of gadgets are pointless are those people trying to feel good about owning their woefully underequipped Falcons.

Honestly, unless Ford are going to sell the FH for a bargain price, why would you even look at it?

Tock · 21-02-2014, 03:25 PM

Because loads of technology/gadgets genuinely doesn't matter to some buyers!?

/falls off manually adjustable seat

Motorbreath310 · 21-02-2014, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by b0son

This. The little touches in my VF make it such a hard package to go past. Little things like aircon that turns itself down when you take a call, HUD, speed limits that show up on the HUD, satnav directions displayed on the HUD, etc.

They might seem ****y, but really, the only people I hear saying those sorts of gadgets are pointless are those people trying to feel good about owning their woefully underequipped Falcons.

Honestly, unless Ford are going to sell the FH for a bargain price, why would you even look at it?

But, what's wrong with regular fries?

blk6t · 21-02-2014, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by b0son

This. The little touches in my VF make it such a hard package to go past. Little things like aircon that turns itself down when you take a call, HUD, speed limits that show up on the HUD, satnav directions displayed on the HUD, etc.

They might seem ****y, but really, the only people I hear saying those sorts of gadgets are pointless are those people trying to feel good about owning their woefully underequipped Falcons.

Honestly, unless Ford are going to sell the FH for a bargain price, why would you even look at it?

You make a point, its tech and gadgets that are going to get people to even consider taking the time to look at a Falcon, let alone buy one.

I'm the first to admit my GT is very under equipped...for a GT. I know FPV chose to invest and focus on the motor which I think was the better option to take than investing in tech and gadgets.

But Ford should have made greater tech advancements with the FG, especially when they knew what the VE had to offer and could also see what other makers like Hyundai were offering.

Essentially to draw people away from other cars in the Ford sales yard, the Falcon needs to be more advanced than the Mondeo and Focus....otherwise what's the point of buying a Falcon when people could buy a cheaper, more economical more technically advanced Mondeo or Focus...it would be good if someone was looking at a new Focus and the sales person could say "why don't you look at the all new Falcon which is only slightly more expensive, however is safer, has more gadgets and features and is on par with fuel economy and it looks fantastic"...like I said, if a sales person can't say that about a Falcon, why would the average person consider one???

Rodge · 21-02-2014, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

Mine is comfortable, looks good, has more than enough features and goes like the clappers so who cares? The guy in the VF SS can extend over his HUD and pushbutton start while I take off and can't wipe the smile off my face. There's already enough tech to go wrong in my Falcon once out of warranty, don't need more. My Rio has more tech in it (including keyless/pushbutton/DRL's/hillstart/auto demister/mirror demister & folding mirrors (electric)/LED indicators/LED Tail&Brake lights/direct inject/million other things) and it punches hard for a 1.6 (103kw) with a 6 manual, but it doesn't make me smile like the Falcon does. If you buy a car purely for tech rather than how it makes you feel when you drive it, you certainly buy with different criterion to me.

No argumemt that they go and stop well (for those fortunate enough to have brembo brakes) but is that enough in 2014 ?