Covid 19 -

[T3rminator]

Interesting it will be indeed...

Health Hazzard reckons 25,000 a day could be on the cards in NSW alone. Not sure if that is just scare mongering to get the boosters up - $$$$$? Vaccine efficacy is 90%+, but could be as low as 70% according to some reports.

Let's be generous and give it 95% against hospitalisation. 5% x 25,000 = the maths is not looking too good.

[tweeked]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Interesting it will be indeed...

Health Hazzard reckons 25,000 a day could be on the cards in NSW alone. Not sure if that is just scare mongering to get the boosters up - $$$$$? Vaccine efficacy is 90%+, but could be as low as 70% according to some reports.

Let's be generous and give it 95% against hospitalisation. 5% x 25,000 = the maths is not looking too good.

And the price of organic salmon will be going through the roof.

[MITCHAY]

Lol Health Hazzard. We have to get over positive case numbers. The only numbers that matter are hospital and deaths. NSW will inform the rest of the country. Even in the ACT we just don't give a **** at the moment

[PooDog]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Lol Health Hazzard. We have to get over positive case numbers. The only numbers that matter are hospital and deaths. NSW will inform the rest of the country. Even in the ACT we just don't give a **** at the moment

True .....but what happens when theres so many people sick and isolating that there becomes supply and service issues , no health professionals on the job etc, etc ,etc ?

Herd immunity better be just around the corner

[russellw]

NSW/VIC
NSW records a higher 2,482 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 1.2192 (from 1.2620) while the actual line remains well above the predictive trend line. That’s also the highest daily case numbers recorded in NSW.



VIC records 1,502 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 1.0193 (from 1.0306) while the actual line remains below the predictive trend.

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Masks back on for QLDers A little Christmas present for opening your borders.

Those on the west coast must be shaking their heads....

We are!......all of us, collectively......

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by tweeked

And the price of organic salmon will be going through the roof.

Don't say that, I treat my cat to that every Christmas, he won't eat any other!......but he likes caviar.......

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by PooDog

True .....but what happens when theres so many people sick and isolating that there becomes supply and service issues , no health professionals on the job etc, etc ,etc ?

Herd immunity better be just around the corner

I'll tell you what happens, and its contained in a child's nursery rhyme, " Ring a rosy"...a pocket full of posy, atichoo, atichoo...........

Last line " we all fall down! ".......

[slowsnake]

And look at NSW, again from a news flash banner on my TV, Ch 24.
206 Covid patients in hospital!...26 in ICU!
But that's down from 215 yesterday!....

Still wanna open the WA border McGowan!......

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT December 17th 2021.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

3,821 new cases for Australia (a new record) and 8 deaths so the CMR is 0.879%.

69 new cases for NZ and 1 death so CMR is 0.369%.

The UK had 92,503 cases yesterday and 111 deaths for a CMR of 1.314%. That sets another new daily case high.

147,052 new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,523 deaths sees CMR at 1.604%.

Other notable points:
Oceania passes 400k cases;
Europe passes 80M cases;
Europe sets a new daily case high with 432,063;


San Marino (407);
Australia (3,821);
Denmark (11,194);and
The UK (92,503)

.... recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

Canada, Kenya, Zambia and Bolivia move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and no countries drop below.

[ford71V8]

There it is....our country in RED.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by ford71V8

There it is....our country in RED.

Being an optimist I guess that we're doing better than Denmark which has a population of about 6 million.....

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by ford71V8

There it is....our country in RED.

Just bought boxing day test tickets this morning. Gov better not do anything silly between now and then!

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Just bought boxing day test tickets this morning. Gov better not do anything silly between now and then!

With Chairman Dan anything is possible

[Citroënbender]

Not just there. I’m more than half expecting Tas will require quarantine for all NSW arrivals, before Tuesday.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Itsme

With Chairman Dan anything is possible

Nah he is on holidays himself, im banking he won't lock himself down. More concerned they might introduce mask rules whilst seated.

[buggerlugs]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-...tion/100709446

Heading down to Victoria tomorrow. Hoping we can get back. I like the comment on opening the borders "If not now, when ?".............

[Citroënbender]

What keeps striking me, is the emphasis on making rules vs encouraging consideration/sense. Dr Khorshid is at it again in the ABC news today, the other day it was Professor McLaws, and Dr McMullen.

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by ford71V8

There it is....our country in RED.

Geez I'm a Communist, Frank Hardy was right .....

[Citroënbender]

Another day of big numbers for NSW, along with heavy testing. Almost twice that of Victoria in each quantity.

My first experience of “drive through” Covid testing (Clinical Labs’ Hunters Hill venue, due to closeness and good reviews); whether it’s the heat, the time of year, location, pandemic fatigue - whatever - candidates included a good quotient of the self-absorbed. I was able to be put down as “urgent” for results, due to upcoming air travel - this may yet trip me up if volume of test material means results are delayed.

But honestly, as I left the testing station a full hour after first joining the queue at 0821H, there was a strong sense of “Is it really worth the hassle?” turning in my head.

[russellw]

NSW/VIC
NSW records a higher 2,566 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 1.2183 (from 1.2192) while the actual line remains well above the predictive trend line. That’s also another highest daily case number recorded in NSW.



VIC records 1,240 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 1.0080 (from 1.0193) while the actual line remains below the predictive trend.



We might have to consider adding South Australia. Last week, they had 39 cases but this week (ending yesterday) they had 221.

[arm79]

Originally Posted by russellw

We might have to consider adding South Australia. Last week, they had 39 cases but this week (ending yesterday) they had 221.

Don't forget about Queensland. We had 31 cases today, with the following said and printed in the Courier Mail, it's probably best to be prepared.

A silent Covid-19 cluster could be ripping across Queensland, with authorities warning people they could be infected without showing any symptoms.

Queensland Chief Health Officer John Gerrard said the virus was spreading rapidly across the state and declared some people may not even know they have it.

All 5.2 million of us will have covid by the end of January the way it's going. Just like Governor Young promised a few months back.

Take that Australia. There's no way Queensland was going to let everyone beat us!!!

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Another day of big numbers for NSW, along with heavy testing. Almost twice that of Victoria in each quantity.

.

Well...there is a sure fire way to reduce the numbers.

Stop testing...win...win......

On another note...don't be dumb...don't queue up like lambs to the slaughter in the drive throughs..

Get the 13 dollar test from the chemist.

If it's positive, isolate, but don't tell the govt about it..only get the PCR test after you test negative on the home test....you have been warned...it will stay on your health record...

[T3rminator]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1470956872886677507

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT December 18th 2021.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

4,023 new cases for Australia (a new record) and 8 deaths so the CMR is 0.868%.

49 new cases for NZ and no deaths so CMR is 0.367%.

The UK had 89,074 cases yesterday and 125 deaths for a CMR of 1.305%.

170,938 new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,789 deaths sees CMR at 1.602%.

Other notable points: (weekend reporting)
Global cases pass 274M, the last 1M in 2 days;
Europe passes 80M cases;

Madagascar (1,501) - a weekly total;
Kenya (2,160) - the previous high on 6/3/121; and
Australia (4,023);

.... recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while Austria, Georgia and Slovenia drop below.

[slowsnake]

Another cartoon from "Alston"......

[Mulva]

Is it too early for any studies to be published re 'long-Covid' with respect to vaccines? Like I know being vaccinated makes me less likely to develop Covid, but if you are vaccinated and yet still contract Covid are you less likely to suffer from long-Covid than an unvaccinated person that contracts Covid?

I know being vaccinated makes me less likely to get long-Covid as I am less likely to get Covid in the first place; I am talking percentage-wise - are there studies with stats that show for eg. 33% of unvaccinated that contract Covid go on to suffer from long-Covid, whereas 15% of vaccinated that contract Covid suffer from long-Covid? Or too soon to know, depends on variants, etc?

[Jack91]

I don't really understand why everyone was forced to get the Vax, and show proof of doing so, but only for a limited time.
Pretty frustrating. We got it to continue working and maintain some freedoms, which are now available to all again suddenly, vaxxed or not.
One day there's 100% mask compliance enforced by big tough security guards, and checking your phone for the certificate, next day it's maybe 20% with a mask, and no enforcement of check in or the proof of Vax cert.
Feels like a slap in the face to everyone who followed the rules. But as per usual, the laziest, dumbest, most selfish few in society always end up getting a free ride

[Citroënbender]

Originally Posted by Jack91

…Feels like a slap in the face to everyone who followed the rules. But as per usual, the laziest, dumbest, most selfish few in society always end up getting a free ride

It’s our fault, we keep voting for them!

Have just canned meeting one friend this week, they have unvaccinated family and I don’t want to risk passing anything on, should I become Covid-positive between today's test and when I’ll be near them.

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by Jack91

I don't really understand why everyone was forced to get the Vax, and show proof of doing so, but only for a limited time.
Pretty frustrating. We got it to continue working and maintain some freedoms, which are now available to all again suddenly, vaxxed or not.
One day there's 100% mask compliance enforced by big tough security guards, and checking your phone for the certificate, next day it's maybe 20% with a mask, and no enforcement of check in or the proof of Vax cert.
Feels like a slap in the face to everyone who followed the rules. But as per usual, the laziest, dumbest, most selfish few in society always end up getting a free ride

A free ride to the morgue!