FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by Bobman

No doubt it will have that horribly ugly drain mouth that is Ford Global's current look.

Spoke with many in the car buying market who were turned off from Ford's "obsession" with drain/oversize front air dams. Looks like a giant mouth.

By contrast, other makers (like European) have larger grilles but I think incorporate it better.

Keen to see the FH final product though as I am interested in purchasing.

Yep, those other makers do it so much better.

[FalconXV]

Originally Posted by Bobman

No doubt it will have that horribly ugly drain mouth that is Ford Global's current look.

Spoke with many in the car buying market who were turned off from Ford's "obsession" with drain/oversize front air dams. Looks like a giant mouth.

By contrast, other makers (like European) have larger grilles but I think incorporate it better.

Keen to see the FH final product though as I am interested in purchasing.

Based on the teaser pic, it has a rounder looking grille like an AC cobra or something.

[FTE]

I hate that X look on any car

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Yep, those other makers do it so much better.
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That, I hope, was sarcasm

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Yep, those other makers do it so much better.
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You are right, that thing is absolutely and unequivocally hideous !!!!! However no doubt a LOT of gormless trendies will convince themselves of its superlative "beauty" - simply because it is a Lexus. (the Asian aesthetic & the "Emperors Clothes" syndrome)

[Bobman]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Yep, those other makers do it so much better.

Since when was Lexus European?

Not a fan of the latest Jap offerings at all.

[P6LTD351]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I'm expecting to see no advertising at all. Ford seem determined to get sales low enough to pull the plug as soon as possible, to stop losing money. The quicker they can get out, the cheaper it will be. Advertising and trying to sell them goes against what they want. If it wasn't for the government funding that has gone into the 201X they would probably be gone already.

Correct. FH is only going ahead because it HAS to. It's Ford's obligation based on the state and fed govt funding of $100 million a couple of years back.

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by Bobman

Since when was Lexus European?

Not a fan of the latest Jap offerings at all.

So what Euros are you talking about? Because it cant be Merc, BMW, Audi and VW because they all look the same from each generation to the next.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

So what Euros are you talking about? Because it cant be Merc, BMW, Audi and VW because they all look the same from each generation to the next.

Nope...can't think of any...

[janddbone]

Sadly the Mustang is likely to sell like a Ford and the 86 sells like a Toyota...

[AU1XLS]

Here we go off topic again

[au2000]

New title, 2014 falcon sneak peak and any other discussion that comes along ... Ohh look a cat !

But seriously u'd reckon that by now the car mags would come up with a pretty good picture of what the fh will look like, I mean we know the basic new ford front will b grafted onto the fh so why bother covering it up anymore?
It can't hurt the fg II sales any more can it ?

[janddbone]

Considering it is the Falcon 'replacement' I consider it on topic. Would much prefer to be talking about the Falcon after this one!

[AU1XLS]

Originally Posted by brett.r.johnstone

Considering it is the Falcon 'replacement' I consider it on topic. Would much prefer to be talking about the Falcon after this one!

Considering the title of the thread its OFF TOPIC

To all please only post on topic, if you would like to discuss something else feel free to start another thread

If anyone feels the need to respond to my post please take it to PM rather than clutter this thread further

Cheers

[Rodge]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I'm expecting to see no advertising at all. Ford seem determined to get sales low enough to pull the plug as soon as possible, to stop losing money. The quicker they can get out, the cheaper it will be. Advertising and trying to sell them goes against what they want. If it wasn't for the government funding that has gone into the 201X they would probably be gone already.

The natural cynic in me tends to agree with you and what you've suggested concerns me but OTOH I've seen a LOT of advertising on N.Z. television for the Territory over thE weekend so they wouldn't be advertising if they didn't want to boost sales would they ! I guess we just have to wait and see how this all play's out.

Falcon's new shape looks very good, (anything that follows the XF Jaguar looks good IMO),...but will the refreshed Falcon still have the same stupidy high seating position and the same seats with soft as marshmellow bolsters ? How will the tech compare to the VF ? Are we getting adaptive cruise control and blind spot monitoring ?

[|Nate]

I think one of the MAIN things that the Falcon desperately needs is auto down AND up on ALL windows.

If it at least has some of the tech my 06' BMW has, I actually might consider buying one as I'm looking to upgrade in the near future.

C'mon Ford, let the Falcon go out with a bang, as a true flagship model.

[chookaradley]

Originally Posted by Rodge

The natural cynic in me tends to agree with you and what you've suggested concerns me but OTOH I've seen a LOT of advertising on N.Z. television for the Territory over thE weekend so they wouldn't be advertising if they didn't want to boost sales would they ! I guess we just have to wait and see how this all play's out.

Falcon's new shape looks very good, (anything that follows the XF Jaguar looks good IMO),...but will the refreshed Falcon still have the same stupidy high seating position and the same seats with soft as marshmellow bolsters ? How will the tech compare to the VF ? Are we getting adaptive cruise control and blind spot monitoring ?

Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

If you have major (Comondoor VE/VF) Blind Spots when driving, you will need a "perfect trade off in excellent passenger cell protection"

Agree on the seating position and seats. I'm 6"5 and whilst I'm used to the seating position I must say the commodores seats/seating position is much better than the Falcons, and has been for some years

[fgpsi]

Bring back spyman !

[Smoke Pursuit]

Maybe Ford have him locked up at You yangs?

[janddbone]

It the best thread we have had in years. Great to see Falcon get the conversation going.

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by P6LTD351

Correct. FH is only going ahead because it HAS to. It's Ford's obligation based on the state and fed govt funding of $100 million a couple of years back.

Hopefully there is a little more emotion and pride in place down at BROADY and GEELONG to ensure we get a well thought out and well built LAST ever falcon. No FPV or GT or possibly no F6 either - but maybe the last G6 / G6E and Terri models will be much sought after , good looking and good performing cars. Looking forward to the evolution of the FG exterior , particularly the rear end - something to give the VF a real final battle in terms of street cred.

[Kieron]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I'm expecting to see no advertising at all. Ford seem determined to get sales low enough to pull the plug as soon as possible, to stop losing money. The quicker they can get out, the cheaper it will be. Advertising and trying to sell them goes against what they want. If it wasn't for the government funding that has gone into the 201X they would probably be gone already.

I know your more in the know than me but from the outside, i'm not sure I agree. The Territory is still a reasonable seller and it's probably worth Ford keeping production going to the end with combined Terri/Falc sales, unless they really are making a loss?

The also need a vehicle in the large SUV market to keep the momentum up in that market segment for the Terri replacement (Everest?) which could keep the well regarded/established Terri name going?

[Bossxr8]

Falcon is a dirty word. Territory being an SUV has at least some appeal and if Ford bother doing any advertising of locally made products it is the Territory they choose to do it with.

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by Thunder

Hi Ford Australia

I am a business owner, looking for 2 new FH Falcons.

Both to have some fruit inside including:

Keyless entry
Keyless start
Heated seats
and of course carry over current features

The current FG has "Remote Keyless entry" (and Reverse Sensing System) as standard on all models.

http://www.ford.com.au/cars/new-falc...s/spec-options

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

The current FG has "Remote Keyless entry" (and Reverse Sensing System) as standard on all models.

http://www.ford.com.au/cars/new-falc...s/spec-options

keyless entry means you keep the key fob nearby (in your pocket etc) and push a button on the handle to unlock and lock the car. Then you get inside and push a button to start it.

[Thunder]

Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

The current FG has "Remote Keyless entry" (and Reverse Sensing System) as standard on all models.

http://www.ford.com.au/cars/new-falc...s/spec-options

As do pretty must most cars lol

But I like the fact that i got 5 different sets of keys floating in the bottom of my work bag, and i don't need to find the fob to unlock the car I'm currently driving. Proper keyless entry is a blessing when you're standing in the rain trying to find your remote fob! Lol

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

The current FG has "Remote Keyless entry" (and Reverse Sensing System) as standard on all models.

http://www.ford.com.au/cars/new-falc...s/spec-options

Remote means you need to press the key fob button, keyless means you just need to have the fob in your 'pocket' and the door opens when pull the handle.

Keyless start means you have the fob in your pocket and press the start button, no need to get a key and put it in the ignition and turn it.

Falcon has neither - as an example, a $17,000 Renault has both.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by AU1XLS

Here we go off topic again

Originally Posted by AU1XLS

Considering the title of the thread its OFF TOPIC

To all please only post on topic, if you would like to discuss something else feel free to start another thread

If anyone feels the need to respond to my post please take it to PM rather than clutter this thread further

Cheers

Well in the last 59 pages, how many "sneek peak" pictures have there been of the FH? Probably not enough enough to fill one page on the thread let alone 59.

I wonder if the FH will have auto up/down windows on ALL 4 windows? My $26,000 Focus does and thats from 2010.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Well in the last 59 pages, how many "sneek peak" pictures have there been of the FH? Probably not enough enough to fill one page on the thread let alone 59.

All talk has been relevant to the 2014 falcon anyway...design, features, what the opposition have done etc...

Originally Posted by Big Damo

I wonder if the FH will have auto up/down windows on ALL 4 windows? My $26,000 Focus does and thats from 2010.

This...I can't work out.

Why can't they work out to do it on all windows, when they go to the effort of one...

Guess its just a Fordisim lol

[V8 Ghia Mike]

Probably to stop your kid or dog from being decapitated if accidentally hitting the up function...

I'd be happy with auto up only on the driver's window.

Mike