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09-01-2020, 07:34 AM | #151 | |||
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How I long for a full size interior. When I lived in nyc my work Ute was a f350. Now it’s a hilux |
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09-01-2020, 08:42 AM | #152 | |||
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09-01-2020, 09:29 AM | #153 | |||
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Obviously the American mid-size utes (F-150 and competitors) have this covered but they are getting close to 6 metres long and over 2 metres wide including ext. mirrors. The rest of the world doesn't really want F-150 sized vehicles however they might want Ranger-sized vehicles with more interior space at the expense of slightly smaller rear load area. Last edited by Dr Smith; 09-01-2020 at 09:35 AM. |
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09-01-2020, 10:37 AM | #154 | |||
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09-01-2020, 11:21 AM | #156 | ||
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There are already a few companies doing a V8 Ranger its available in USA in XLT versions as they dont get the RR, they are already modify the Standard Ranger to suit.
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09-01-2020, 01:48 PM | #157 | ||
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09-01-2020, 02:56 PM | #158 | ||
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Good luck getting one of those US behemoths out on a bush track. They are simply too big for it. Even the yanks agree, which is why the Wrangler and Bronco are/were so popular.
In before "but not everyone takes them off road". No sheet sherlock. But many do. When you do go off road you see dual cabs just as much as landcruisers etc. The RAM is just a tow rig. That's where it excels. |
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09-01-2020, 02:59 PM | #159 | ||
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My F150 Raptor goes quite nicely on our bush tracks never had an issue.... I guess it depends on areas, mine is mainly out on the south coast NSW
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09-01-2020, 03:04 PM | #160 | ||
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09-01-2020, 03:38 PM | #161 | ||
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Yes except I'm talking about the global market, which for the F-series in non-existant outside North America and some South American countries.
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09-01-2020, 04:22 PM | #163 | ||
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has anyone here actually driven the RAM or been in one?
Its like stepping into an AU falcon. It basically has minimal features Unless you are paying for the Laramie which is like 110k. I looked at buying one but decided to get the Bi Turbo XLT just based on that.
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09-01-2020, 05:19 PM | #164 | |||
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09-01-2020, 05:30 PM | #165 | ||
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Yeh three baby seats/capsules fitted in a Territory, but not in an Everest, despite it looking bigger, the Territory is about 50mm wider on the inside door trim to door trim.
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09-01-2020, 06:00 PM | #166 | |||
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Simpson desert, tow a 3.5 tonne caravan and carry forty-leven jerry cans of fuel. Lots of people have fun in Utes on the weekends without travelling distances from home. On a different note, I just noticed that the Ram 1500 Laramie is roughly $105K Drive Away, you wouldn't want an express, they are bloody down market for $80K DA Last edited by jpd80; 09-01-2020 at 06:09 PM. |
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09-01-2020, 08:39 PM | #168 | ||
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09-01-2020, 09:47 PM | #170 | |||
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This thing will become bigger than Ben Hur until someone works out the rumours are self feeding. At $140K, they’ve lost the rabbit, just go convert a full sized Raptor |
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10-01-2020, 01:01 AM | #172 | |||
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Toby Bacon was writing for Wheels and they were the ones that somehow got their hands on the leaked shots of the 2021 Ranger that Ford Australia didn't request be taken down although Ford US did make that request to media outlets in the US. Why would Dearborn stop their press but not give Ford Au some directive to do the same here? So basically Wheels magazine have been given a scoop. A controlled leak. Now news of a V8 Raptor follows from the same source. So if we go back to what that article suggests... the next gen could be the aim and Ford are looking for reactions, which explains why they're so quiet and haven't responded to other media outlets. Everyone is salivating at the prospect and there's nothing better than sending this platform off with a V8, except having it installed on the production line in the next gen. So my theory is I think Wheels have been given limited information. They've been made to think it'll be like Mustang Rspec, and now Ford is just gauging responses to see if it's worth doing it from factory.. I mean, it's a no brainer. At about $85k from factory they can't go wrong. Do the same for the Everest because it needs a shot in the arm, or they could just let it dwindle like everything else in the Ford range. Remember, it's all about the ride height, the practicality and versatility. Hence the craze for SUVs. This ute isn't an SUV, but not far off it and it has its perks. Another thing. V8s... they're uneconomical as we here all know and love but it could turn some off in favour of diesel. What if.... and I'm just thinking our loud here, what if that hybrid V8 is put to good use? We know there's electrification happening to the F150, so there must be some sort of plans for the Ranger as well. As for the V8 hybrid it exists within Ford. I know it does. Economies of scale would mean it would be used in F series mostly, and Mustang, and if Ford don't rest on their laurels they should bludgeon the Ranger's competition with it. |
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10-01-2020, 09:21 AM | #173 | ||
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Ford Legal did ask for the images to be taken down but by the time that was
done, the image had been dispersed far and wide. Ford's request only served to confirm the images as legitimate. Keep in mind that reporters also read social media and may just be "kite flying" based on what's said here and elsewhere...so we could be feeding the delusion that there's more to this than actually is.. V8s are notoriously thirsty, that's the whole reason they died out in large cars. So explain the rise in popularity of full sized V8 Pick up sales? Answer: Buyers were always there but limited by sheer price, a reduction in price thanks to more efficient conversion now gives them access even though still more expensive than our mid sized utes. can be leased for business to reduce the sting. Regardless of that, a V8 Ranger Raptor is a desirable product that has very little foundation in practicality, it's a gotta have much like mustang / Camaro. A lot of those technologies still sit beyond our market due to expense and no RHD. A hybrid Ranger would be something to consider as the power train could be sourced from the 3.3 V6 hybrid Explorer, good FE, more HP than diesel. The next gen Ranger would be the ideal time to batch all changes, the question is what engines does that entail, 2.0 diesel, 3.0 diesel..a TTV6 EB or V8? Last edited by jpd80; 10-01-2020 at 09:31 AM. |
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10-01-2020, 11:31 AM | #174 | |||
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In saying that, even I don't know wether it's real or not. |
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10-01-2020, 11:33 AM | #175 | ||
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10-01-2020, 11:37 AM | #176 | |||
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Converted F150 Raptors new go for about 185k. Although second hand ones a few years old may be down towards 150k. |
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10-01-2020, 11:56 AM | #177 | |||
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Just reading Toby's article again. He says the V8 will actually replace the 2.0, ie, the 2.0 will no longer be an option, and the Raptor will be V8-only? It sounds like that's what he's saying unless I've misinterpreted. In which case I tend to think it won't be as expensive if Ford bring in the Raptor without it's diesel driveline. You'd know, is that doable? |
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10-01-2020, 11:56 AM | #178 | ||
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Personally I think it'll be a T6 limited edition filler to keep interest until the boosted petrol engines arrive, it'll sell easily to the hardcore fans but I doubt it'll ever be a production option because despite the V8, it still doesn't address the things that the other V8 Ute does for that market, the Yanks wont/don't need it competing in their market and therefore the limited return won't cover investment to get it across the line for our small market.
As I said before, this maybe and what if is nothing more than damage control as Raptor/Wildtrack buyers will be holding out to see if they can get a piece which will hurt immediate numbers. The cat got out too soon. My2c. Last edited by BENT_8; 10-01-2020 at 12:13 PM. |
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10-01-2020, 12:07 PM | #180 | |||
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The diesel is ongoing due to other markets, you won't miss out by waiting, but pull the trigger now and you could very well miss the desirable one. |
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