Covid 19 -

[FairmontGS]

In China, doctors say they are discouraged from citing COVID on death certificates

BEIJING, Jan 17 (Reuters) - During a busy shift at the height of Beijing's COVID wave, a physician at a private hospital saw a printed notice in the emergency department: doctors should “try not to” write COVID-induced respiratory failure on death certificates.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/...es-2023-01-17/

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT week ending January 20th 2023.


27,547 new cases for Australia and 380 deaths so the CMR is 0.160% (é).
NZ reported 19,179 cases and 55 deaths for a CMR of 0.170% (é).
The UK didn’t report yet this week for a CMR of 0.834 (-).
A slightly higher 377,430 new cases in the USA this week and higher 3,856 deaths sees CMR at 1.087 (-).

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 672M;
Europe passes 244M cases;
Asia passes 211M cases;

No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and none drop below.

Global case numbers are down again to 2,271,453 this week compared to the 3,108,219 last week and the number of deaths increased from an unamended 13.951 last week to 15,274 this week although the amended deaths for last week are up to 15,200 and the amended case numbers to 3,206,116.

[russellw]

It's not a lot of data but here is a quick look at the weekly CMR in Australia since the beginning of December.

[russellw]

Global (figures up to 22/01/23)

During the last month, global CMR's have mostly been dropping with the global average now at 1.002% compared to 1.011% in the previous month and 1.575% a year ago.

Notably; Australia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia, Canada, Croatia, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel, Japan, MalaysiaMalta, New Zealand,Norway, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Saudi Arabia, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand and the United Kingdom all saw CMR rise.

Case numbers decrease this month with 12.341M compared to 15.434M in the previous period but with a higher 62,585 deaths in the last month and a higher CMR of 0.507% on an unadjusted basis.
Overall the increase in cases numbers was 1.8% and the variance in the number of deaths 0.93%.Countries (with >100k cases) that were above 4% growth for the month areChina (+21.9%);Hong Kong (+14.6%); Japan (+12.8%);Taiwan (+7.6%); Channel Islands (+5.3%); South Korea (+4.9%); Brunei (+4.7%) andNew Zealand (+4.4%).

Very few countries saw their mortalities increase by much with Japan (+16.4%); Hong Kong (+13.3%); Norway (+9.2%); Finland (+7.3%); New Zealand (+6.6%); Taiwan (+6.6%);Australia (+6.5%); Channel Islands (+6.3%); Denmark (+4.8%) and South Korea (+4.6%) the only significant growth amongst countries with >100k cases.

[Charliewool]

Wonder just how accurate figures are from many other countries nowadays?
Talking to Amigos back in Costa Rica, they’re saying Govco couldn’t give 2 hoots anymore..
I’d suggest similar attitude for most of Latin America?

[burnz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfbHMPkmvtE
watch to the end Pls..

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by burnz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfbHMPkmvtE
watch to the end Pls..

For 40 mins?

[burnz]

Originally Posted by GasoLane

For 40 mins?

yeh sorry.

[russellw]

Australia / New Zealand
Please note that as of the 16th September the numbers are now reported weekly and all the charts have been changed to that period of time.

NSW Predictive Trend



VIC Predictive Trend



Here is the predictive trend graph for four States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st 2021 so that’s more than a full year of data now.



NSW had 4,150 more cases than Victoria last week;
Victoria recorded 1,466 less cases than the previous week;
NSW recorded 1,409 less;
Queensland had 1,032 less;WA recorded 963 less;
SA recorded 559 less; and
New Zealand recorded 5,324 less.

The week totalled 21,457 cases, a 22.1% decrease on last week. One of the consequences of the lower testing rates now that the tests aren’t free is that the raw CMR is back on the rise again. For all of 2022 it was 0.146% but this YTD it is already 1.040% and it was 2.437% this last week.



.. trends over the last 3 months:

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT week ending January 27th 2023.


21,457 new cases for Australia and 523 deaths so the CMR is 0.165% (é).
NZ reported 13,875 cases and 78 deaths for a CMR of 0.173% (é).
The UK reported 15,121 cases and 942 deaths last week for a CMR of 0.841 (é).
A lower 283,579 new cases in the USA this week and lower 3,736 deaths sees CMR at 1.088 (é).

Other notable points:Global cases pass 674M;
Global deaths pass 6.75M, the last 50k in 22 days;
Europe passes 2M deaths;
Asia passes 212M cases;
North America passes 123M cases;
USA passes 104M cases;
South Korea passes 30M cases;
Japan passes 32M cases;

No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and none drop below.

Global case numbers are well down to 1,596,652 this week compared to the 2,271,453 last week and the number of deaths decreased from an unamended 15.724 last week to 12,543 this week although the amended deaths for last week are up to 15,7958 and the amended case numbers to 2,373,400.

[russellw]

Australia / New Zealand
Please note that as of the 16th September the numbers are now reported weekly and all the charts have been changed to that period of time.

NSW Predictive Trend



VIC Predictive Trend



Here is the predictive trend graph for four States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st 2021 so that’s more than a full year of data now.



NSW had 4,207 more cases than Victoria last week;
Victoria recorded 390 less cases than the previous week;
NSW recorded 1,086 less;
Queensland had 494 less;WA recorded 581 less;
SA recorded 208 less; and
New Zealand recorded 3,288 less.

The week totalled 18,376 cases, a 14.4% decrease on last week. One of the consequences of the lower testing rates now that the tests aren’t free is that the raw CMR is back on the rise again. For all of 2022 it was 0.146% but this YTD it is already 1.205% and it was 2.552% this last week.



.. trends over the last 3 months:

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT week ending February 3rd 2023.


18,376 new cases for Australia and 469 deaths so the CMR is 0.166% (é).
NZ reported 10,567 cases and 27 deaths for a CMR of 0.173% (-).
The UK hasn’t reported yet this week for a CMR of 0.841 (-).
A higher 346,091 new cases in the USA this week and lower 3,721 deaths sees CMR at 1.088 (é).

Other notable points:Global cases pass 675M;
Asia passes 1.5M deaths;

No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and Japan drops below.

Global case numbers are down again to 1,356,837 this week compared to the 1,596,652 last week and the number of deaths increased from an unamended 12.543 last week to 13,756 this week although the amended deaths for last week are up to 14,291 and the amended case numbers to 1,693,292.

[russellw]

Australia / New Zealand
Please note that as of the 16th September 2022 the numbers are now reported weekly and all the charts have been changed to that period of time.

NSW Predictive Trend




VIC Predictive Trend



NSW had 3,511 more cases than Victoria last week;
Victoria recorded 115 less cases than the previous week;
NSW recorded 127 less;
Queensland had 548 less;WA recorded 53 less;
SA recorded 209 more; and
New Zealand recorded 1,707 less.

The week totalled 17,682 cases, a 3.8% decrease on last week. One of the consequences of the lower testing rates now that the tests aren’t free is that the raw CMR is back on the rise again. For all of 2022 it was 0.146% but this YTD it is already 1.196% and it was 1.369% this last week although there was an adjustment for two States.



.. trends over the last 3 months:

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT week ending February 10th 2023.


17,862 new cases for Australia and 242 deaths so the CMR is 0.168% (é).
NZ reported 8,860 cases and 25 deaths for a CMR of 0.174% (é).
The UK reported 16,233 cases and 727 deaths last week for a CMR of 0.843 (é).
A lower 315,352 new cases in the USA this week and higher 3,966 deaths sees CMR at 1.088 (-).

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 677M;
Europe passes 245M cases;
Asia passes 213M cases;
Russia passes 22M cases;

No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and Japan drops below.

Global case numbers are down again to1,306,747this week compared to the 1,356,837 last week and the number of deaths increased from an unamended 13.756 last week to10,521this week although the amended deaths for last week are up to 14,060 and the amended case numbers to 1,441,152.

[russellw]

Australia / New Zealand
Please note that as of the 16th September the numbers are now reported weekly and all the charts have been changed to that period of time.

NSW Predictive Trend



VIC Predictive Trend



NSW had 3,499 more cases than Victoria last week;
Victoria recorded 403 more cases than the previous week;
NSW recorded 407 less;
Queensland had 300 more;WA recorded 7 less;
SA recorded 225 more; and
New Zealand recorded 496 less.

The week totalled 18,400 cases, a 4.1% increase on last week. One of the consequences of the lower testing rates now that the tests aren’t free is that the raw CMR is back on the rise again. For all of 2022 it was 0.146% but this YTD it is already 1.282% and it was 1.022% this last weeks.



.. trends over the last 3 months:

[stock1991]

Pandemic/ Shamdemic. same as the other one, yes I will be dead, but the young people will live . Same as it ever was/Talking Heads

[T3rminator]

Its been 2 weeks since lunar new year ended.

Has the apocalypse that was anticipated by all the "think tanks" and "analysts" eventuated?

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT week ending February 17th 2023.


18,400 new cases for Australia and 188 deaths so the CMR is 0.170% (é).
NZ reported 8,364 cases and 33 deaths for a CMR of 0.175% (é).
The UK reported 25,632 cases and 706 deaths last week for a CMR of 0.847 (é).
A much lower 198,542 new cases in the USA this week and lower 2,391 deaths sees CMR at 1.088 (-).

Other notable points:Global cases pass 678M;
North America passes 124M cases;
Japan passes 33M cases;

No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and none drop below.

Global case numbers are down again to 1,186,562 this week compared to the 1,306,747 last week and the number of deaths decreased from an unamended 10.521 last week to 8,008 this week although the amended deaths for last week are up to 11,093 and the amended case numbers to 1,369,853.

[Citroënbender]

My Aldi-of-choice has declared the pandemic over and removed their plastic shields. I honestly expected them to stay forever once up.

[russellw]

Australia / New Zealand
Please note that as of the 16th September the numbers are now reported weekly and all the charts have been changed to that period of time.

NSW Predictive Trend



VIC Predictive Trend



NSW had 2,689 more cases than Victoria last week;
Victoria recorded 292 less cases than the previous week;
NSW recorded 512 more;
Queensland had 216 less;WA recorded 192 more;
SA recorded 57 more; and
New Zealand recorded 168 less.

The week totalled 18,722 cases, a 1.8% increase on last week. One of the consequences of the lower testing rates now that the tests aren’t free is that the raw CMR is back on the rise again. For all of 2022 it was 0.146% but this YTD it is already 1.376% and it was 0.849% this last weeks.



.. trends over the last 3 months:

[SJG351]

Interested to hear your point of view over the "Died Suddenly" raft of cases?

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT week ending February 24th 2023.


18,722 new cases for Australia and 159 deaths so the CMR is 0.170% (-).
NZ reported 8,194 cases and 25 deaths for a CMR of 0.175% (-).
The UK didn’t reported yet this week for a CMR of 0.847 (-).
A higher 210,958 new cases in the USA this week and lower 2,071 deaths sees CMR at 1.088 (-).

Other notable points:Global cases pass 679M;
Europe passes 246M cases;
Asia passes 214M cases;
Germany passes 38M cases;
Brazil passes 37M cases;

No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and none drop below.

Global case numbers are down again to 1,018,724this week compared to the 1,186,562 last week and the number of deaths decreased from an unamended 8,008 last week to 6,961this week although the amended deaths for last week are up to 8,764 and the amended case numbers to 1,217,467.

[russellw]

Originally Posted by SJG351

Interested to hear your point of view over the "Died Suddenly" raft of cases?

I'm going to stay on the side of science and say it's another beat up by the anti vax brigade with most of the on-line horror stories not even being vaccine related but sudden deaths from other causes - which, if you want to read the statistics, do happen to people all the time.

Rigorous study and real-world evidence from hundreds of millions of administered shots prove that deaths caused by vaccination are extremely rare and the risks associated with not getting vaccinated are far higher than the risks of vaccination.

Indeed, the film on which this 'movement' is based had cases in it that predated COVID or weren't even vaccine related deaths like the Cruz (car accident), Erickson (heart failure at 18 but he wasn't vaccinated) and Silva (heart attack) cases and the latter of those didn't even die but for that group of believers, the truth shouldn't be allowed to get in the way of a good internet beat up.

I'm not saying that people haven't died from the vaccine becasue they have. Our own TGA publishes a fortnightly report on vaccine safety and here is some data from the most recent (23/2/23).

Total adverse effects reported of all kinds: 137k from 64.75M doses
Total deaths attributed to vaccines: 14 - none in people under 20.

[SJG351]

Originally Posted by russellw

I'm going to stay on the side of science and say it's another beat up by the anti vax brigade with most of the on-line horror stories not even being vaccine related but sudden deaths from other causes - which, if you want to read the statistics, do happen to people all the time.

Rigorous study and real-world evidence from hundreds of millions of administered shots prove that deaths caused by vaccination are extremely rare and the risks associated with not getting vaccinated are far higher than the risks of vaccination.

Indeed, the film on which this 'movement' is based had cases in it that predated COVID or weren't even vaccine related deaths like the Cruz (car accident), Erickson (heart failure at 18 but he wasn't vaccinated) and Silva (heart attack) cases and the latter of those didn't even die but for that group of believers, the truth shouldn't be allowed to get in the way of a good internet beat up.

I'm not saying that people haven't died from the vaccine becasue they have. Our own TGA publishes a fortnightly report on vaccine safety and here is some data from the most recent (23/2/23).

Total adverse effects reported of all kinds: 137k from 64.75M doses
Total deaths attributed to vaccines: 14 - none in people under 20.

Ok Russ, I will wager 1 years subscription that during the next 2 years your "ScIeNce" are proven wrong, after all science is in motion always learning always questioning, right? you up for it. For the record, i believe it is medical tyranny of the worst kind, very big, very bad. My wife is a nurse, she sees this event much the same as you, it's been a massive strain and there was so much suffering unnecessarily, very sad really.

[prktkljokr]

Now my post is just a differing of opinion from my own research in 5 minutes

Originally Posted by russellw

Total adverse effects reported of all kinds: 137k from 64.75M doses

The jury is out on this statistic as if you search the net you will get 137k different answers, the water is too muddy to get a clear picture.

I get 44.1% have experienced a adverse reaction?
https://ausvaxsafety.org.au/vaccine-...id-19-vaccines

Total deaths attributed to vaccines: 14 - none in people under 20.

Do you honestly believe that statistic?, I certainly don't, you know even if the count was 150,000 deaths attributed to the vaccine, they would not publish it because of the hysteria it would cause.

Some countries are reporting the actual figures that could be attributed to the vaccine and the count is way over 14 deaths, why is Australia so special?

UK Gov reported

The Yellow Card reporting scheme has reported that between 9 December 2020 and 8 September 2021 there were 1,645 deaths where the person died shortly after receiving one of the coronavirus vaccines

My conclusion with all the conflicting reporting world wide, is that either none of our world leaders have a clue, or its all Bull turds, I vote the latter.

We have 4 nurses in our family group that were all pro Vaccine, 1 is still pro vaccine, the other 3 are not so sure anymore.

[russellw]

Frankly I wonder why I bother. I really should know better than to debate with the true believers. I won't engage again with either of you.

[prktkljokr]

Originally Posted by russellw

Frankly I wonder why I bother. I really should know better than to debate with the true believers. I won't engage again with either of you.

Like they say don't let the facts get in the way of a good story

I find it quite funny that you want us to accept your point of view, but are closed off to our point of view when we present a valid argument.

[SJG351]

Originally Posted by russellw

Frankly I wonder why I bother. I really should know better than to debate with the true believers. I won't engage again with either of you.

That's a confusing stance Russ! I would still happily have a beer or a coffee with you or lend you a tool or something. I have been refused entry to multiple places, told i was a murderer of old people, sent away from work all because i wanted proof? that's it Proof? We are the victims in all this, the unjabbed, unclean, should be locked in camps people. How about this? i will stay out of the Covid forum because i value too much the information from the car society, deal?

[T3rminator]

My refusal to take the 3rd booster initially put a strain on the relationship with the folks. Was told at one stage not to come to the house. 12-18 months on, they have heard enough accounts from their own circles, they have decided not to go for their 5th.

People we know with long term effects seem to be between the ages of 30 and 50, and all are very active, previously doing high intensity activities.

Mum is in the vulnerable group, so I'm not sure how I should feel about her hesitancy to take the boosters going forward. She is still active, goes out a lot, caught covid once about 18 months ago, but seems to have dodged the last wave.

Benjamin Netanyahu's interview on how he allowed Pfizer to use his people for "testing" is interesting. The deal was that they got first access in return. Israel's citizens have all their health records digitised on a central database. It allowed authoritise to quickly identify and group people who had reactions. That is why we kept hearing of "studies out of Israel showed xyz" during the vaccine roll out. Having heard that, its apparent it was still being tested during the initial roll outs.

[russellw]

Originally Posted by SJG351

That's a confusing stance Russ! I would still happily have a beer or a coffee with you or lend you a tool or something. I have been refused entry to multiple places, told i was a murderer of old people, sent away from work all because i wanted proof? that's it Proof? We are the victims in all this, the unjabbed, unclean, should be locked in camps people. How about this? i will stay out of the Covid forum because i value too much the information from the car society, deal?

So, in your world, it's perfectly acceptable that a person who is capable of transmitting a disease that is known to be particularly dangerous to the elderly should be allowed to freely roam around because they have chosen not to mitigate that risk and then you want to play the victim card?

Originally Posted by prktkljokr

Like they say don't let the facts get in the way of a good story

I find it quite funny that you want us to accept your point of view, but are closed off to our point of view when we present a valid argument.

How about I make this crystal clear for the pair of you and others who want to share the same delusions.

I've offered you facts and hard data for almost exactly three years now and the only response you've been able to provide can be summarised as:

1. Articles from equally delusional people that have little or no basis in face.
2. Unsubstantiated claims that the data presented by Government and independent agencies worldwide are actually all lies because of what 'they' don't want us to know.
3. Cries about the rights of the individual to choose regardless of the impact that might have on their fellow citizens.

By definition a valid argument is one that can be supported by verifiable data - not a belief no matter how dearly you hold that belief - and I've not seen any irrefutable evidence of of that to date.

But hey: you are entitled to your opinion along with those who believe JFK was assassinated by the US Government or that the governments around the world have secretly stored proof that aliens really do exist or that we have never landed on the moon but I don't have to entertain those views or allow them to be publicly aired in this forum.

I'm going to make it really simple for you. This thread will be closed and thus the only future posts will be scientific research that I consider of importance and the weekly updates for as long as I deem it necessary and you can just avoid this thread or this forum entirely - that choice is yours.