First experience .. Vic law regarding passing emergency vehicle

[prydey]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

Does anyone know why truck driver had the collision? Fell asleep or?
)

All speculation at this point. This incident was added to this old thread because people speculated that the rule the thread was discussing played a role. Nothing to back that up at this stage.

The truck driver was reported as having a medical episode however it is unclear whether that was before or after the collision.

[You Yangs]

Originally Posted by russellw

Destruction of evidence

[/I]While we don't know what evidence was actually destroyed and how / when, it's a bit hard to say if it will stick. It carries a 5 year maximum.

I believe the evidence was one of two phones he was carrying, he surrended one to Police that had been wiped to factory settings.

[Bossxr8]

Porsche douche had weed and meth in his system. What a clown.


Police still can’t interview the truck driver, but expect to within days.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by You Yangs

I believe the evidence was one of two phones he was carrying, he surrended one to Police that had been wiped to factory settings.

10 news just said one of the phones he handed over to police was a brand new phone. Not the one they wanted. So he’s ditched that phone and bought a new one that’s clean.

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Porsche douche had weed and meth in his system. What a clown.


Police still can’t interview the truck driver, but expect to within days.

we all lucky he wasnt driving the truck...

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

we all lucky he wasnt driving the truck...

Well, well, now the police are chasing a lead of an ice pipe being in the truck. Truck brah is in a world of ****e if it’s true.

[simon varley]

let's put it a slightly different way. Car breaks down on hard shoulder and RACV are in attendance. Same thing happens. Would you blame the driver of the broken down car?

Mr Porsche may be a scumbag lowlife, but I can't see how you can blame him for these deaths.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by simon varley

let's put it a slightly different way. Car breaks down on hard shoulder and RACV are in attendance. Same thing happens. Would you blame the driver of the broken down car?

Mr Porsche may be a scumbag lowlife, but I can't see how you can blame him for these deaths.

His not really, as a previous post his a factor but not the cause.

Still crucify him though.

[MercuryT]

I'm obviously devastated for the Officers and family and friends. Simply horrible and words csn't explain.

The truck driver I'm reserving judgement until more is known. Seems bad but I'm prepared to wait on thoughts.

The Porsche driver though can go and get *ed and I hope the law hammers him as high as possible.

What a deadset moron and pathetic human being.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by simon varley

let's put it a slightly different way. Car breaks down on hard shoulder and RACV are in attendance. Same thing happens. Would you blame the driver of the broken down car?

Mr Porsche may be a scumbag lowlife, but I can't see how you can blame him for these deaths.

There was something mentioned about him paying out on the dying lady officer,
I sincerely hope that wasn’t t the case, it’s bloody depraved if true

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

I'm obviously devastated for the Officers and family and friends. Simply horrible and words csn't explain.

The truck driver I'm reserving judgement until more is known. Seems bad but I'm prepared to wait on thoughts.

The Porsche driver though can go and get *ed and I hope the law hammers him as high as possible.

What a deadset moron and pathetic human being.

a moron would blame the porch driver

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by jpd80

There was something mentioned about him paying out on the dying lady officer,
I sincerely hope that wasn’t t the case, it’s bloody depraved if true

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/...24-p54mvv.html

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

a moron would blame the porch driver

Read the post again and stop being a ********.

[zipping]

Drugs and an ice pipe were allegedly found inside the cabin of a truck involved in a fatal crash on a Melbourne freeway, police have revealed.

Police commissioner Graham Ashton has revealed Mohinder Singh Bajwa is facing questioning by homicide detectives.

He has been at the Royal Melbourne Hospital since the accident on Wednesday night which left four police officers dead.



https://7news.com.au/news/vic/easter...ruck--c-997831

Unreal

But really we knew it was most likely, short of passing out due a medical issue how else do you cross 3 lanes of traffic at 100km/h

Investigators allegedly found cannabis, methylamphetamine and an ice pipe inside the truck’s cabin after the accident.

[MercuryT]

Holy ****.

He is gone for a long time.

Just so stupid it's beyond belief.

[Franco Cozzo]

Looks like ol' Mohinder loves a cheeky glass BBQ before getting behind the wheel.

Does that really surprise anyone? I did my apprenticeship with a few shard junkies, my manager and a couple of the others loved a cheeky glass BBQ in the toilets, without the gear they were useless.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by zipping

Drugs and an ice pipe were allegedly found inside the cabin of a truck involved in a fatal crash on a Melbourne freeway, police have revealed.

Police commissioner Graham Ashton has revealed Mohinder Singh Bajwa is facing questioning by homicide detectives.

He has been at the Royal Melbourne Hospital since the accident on Wednesday night which left four police officers dead.



https://7news.com.au/news/vic/easter...ruck--c-997831

Unreal

But really we knew it was most likely, short of passing out due a medical issue how else do you cross 3 lanes of traffic at 100km/h

Investigators allegedly found cannabis, methylamphetamine and an ice pipe inside the truck’s cabin after the accident.

Surely not....surely, maybe I have been watching to much TV but imagine if that wasnt actually the case and a way to deflect heat from the fact that the car may have been pulled over in a less than ideal position and that topical law to slow down on a freeway....

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by You Yangs

I believe the evidence was one of two phones he was carrying, he surrended one to Police that had been wiped to factory settings.

Does not matter info can be recovered.

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

10 news just said one of the phones he handed over to police was a brand new phone. Not the one they wanted. So he’s ditched that phone and bought a new one that’s clean.

Does not really matter as they will search phone providers data base if he had another phone, he is certainly not doing himself any favour trying to conceal information.

[zipping]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Surely not....surely, maybe I have been watching to much TV but imagine if that wasnt actually the case and a way to deflect heat from the fact that the car may have been pulled over in a less than ideal position and that topical law to slow down on a freeway....

Yeh, on here we appreciate truck drivers and the overwhelming majority drive extremely well and are responsible.

That said the odds of this being because of 40km/h rule were next to zero, an aware truck driver would spot the flashing lights miles off.

negligence was always the front runner.

Mohinder Singh Bajwa was allegedly overheard to say: ‘’I was looking down in the cabin and I looked up and they were just there.’’

He then blacked out.

[Falcon SXR8]

So we have a drugo feral causing trouble in his car, a drugo driving a truck and some innocent victims caught in the middle. Yep just another day in this disgusting world we call earth.

[M&Ms]

Originally Posted by ozpacman

Mate why on earth would you bother make a comment as stupid and inappropriate as that?

It doesn't take long for the police haters to show their true colours. You ought to be ashamed of yourself for not only this comment, but some of your others on this thread as well.

The one about letting him go with a reduced fine was just as ridiculous. So let's just say the officers do as you suggest, and this time next week this idiot runs into your family's car on the freeway with tragic consequences. You'd be the one shouting from the rooftops that the police didn't do their job and let this bloke off.

As for the time of day the incident occurred, I'm sorry but offenders don't usually ask the police what time would be most suitable to drive like an idiot.

Unless you've served in the suit of blue mate I'd suggest you're probably the last person who should be criticising police officers who were following lawful procedures and have now paid the ultimate price.

Perhaps a bit of respect and common decency is in order.

Was a quote, not a comment.

Facts hurt some people

[ratter]

Some pretty shocking stories getting around on social media at the moment about the truckies actions which would lead to murder charges.
I know if it’s on Facebook then it must be true, but I hope it’s not

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by M&Ms

As someone who does RCA's as part of my job, no he is not the root cause. Without all the facts, the root cause may be the laws that are in place forcing drivers to drastically wipe 60% of their speed in a short period of time, without consideration of differing braking capabilities of the different vehicles on the road. The other cause may be the unsafe manner in which all parties were parked on the side of the motorway.

we could argue that point

[au2000]

Originally Posted by ratter

Some pretty shocking stories getting around on social media at the moment about the truckies actions which would lead to murder charges.
I know if it’s on Facebook then it must be true, but I hope it’s not

wont be murder....
manslaughter is a possibility, but murder is intent & there was no intent to kill.
truck driver if innuendo is true & was on the gear... is facing serious gaol time. ….

as for pusey.. well... there's no denying him filming a dying mother of 2 begging for help & all he could do was abuse her for wrecking his car...…

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by zipping

Drugs and an ice pipe were allegedly found inside the cabin of a truck involved in a fatal crash on a Melbourne freeway, police have revealed.

Police commissioner Graham Ashton has revealed Mohinder Singh Bajwa is facing questioning by homicide detectives.

He has been at the Royal Melbourne Hospital since the accident on Wednesday night which left four police officers dead.



https://7news.com.au/news/vic/easter...ruck--c-997831

Unreal

But really we knew it was most likely, short of passing out due a medical issue how else do you cross 3 lanes of traffic at 100km/h

Investigators allegedly found cannabis, methylamphetamine and an ice pipe inside the truck’s cabin after the accident.

Media quick to jump to conclusions. Has it been proven the drugs and paraphernalia belonged to the truck driver and the truck driver was under the influence of said drugs? Who knows, perhaps they are and he is, but its not been proven at this point.

[zipping]

Originally Posted by au2000

wont be murder....
manslaughter is a possibility, but murder is intent & there was no intent to kill.

This is from Andrew Rule who is a police reporter with significant contacts in the force.

Police told other police, who told former police and family and friends, that an apparently identical truck had been pulled over on the same freeway a little earlier that evening, further east.

Allegedly, the driver of that truck had angrily abused police when issued with two on-the-spot infringement notices for driving offences.

Allegedly, that truck driver was known to police because of an association with groups that come under police notice from time to time.

So while the initial focus was on the driver of the black Porsche pulled over for allegedly driving at excessive speeds, the main thrust of the investigation from the start was on the truck driver.

It was significant that the truck driver, Singh Bajwa, was placed under police guard in hospital.

[Tassie f100]

If the truckdriver tested positive to drug usage he is in very deep poo,which would result in charges of culpable driving x4 .Thank you to Russellw post 141 for clarifying the different charges,and reason for them.If the driver tested negative,the rumours about the stuff in the truck is really irrelevent!possession isn’t a serious crime.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by zipping

This is from Andrew Rule who is a police reporter with significant contacts in the force.

Police told other police, who told former police and family and friends, that an apparently identical truck had been pulled over on the same freeway a little earlier that evening, further east.

Allegedly, the driver of that truck had angrily abused police when issued with two on-the-spot infringement notices for driving offences.

Allegedly, that truck driver was known to police because of an association with groups that come under police notice from time to time.

So while the initial focus was on the driver of the black Porsche pulled over for allegedly driving at excessive speeds, the main thrust of the investigation from the start was on the truck driver.

It was significant that the truck driver, Singh Bajwa, was placed under police guard in hospital.

Not sure how accurate that is, as other reports are saying it was a different truck.

[Romulus]

One must wonder how the legislation has allowed the creation of a situation now demonstrated to be so dangerous. I doubt the policy makers risk assessed the situation enough for both;

• The 40km/h speed limit near emergency vehicles on high density, high speed main arterial roads
• The impounding of vehicles on such roads

There really isn't enough justification to impound a vehicle on the road side, why not ask the vehicle owner to surrender the vehicle such as what is required in rural WA where roadside vehicle impounding isn't practical.

As for Pusey allegedly being charged for destruction of evidence, that's a joke, they're his phones, he can do what he wants with them. I bet there's a lot of soul searching and internal reviews going on within VicPol as to how the deaths of the 4 officers could have been prevented and who's responsible for this occurring. It's not the truck driver or the Porsche driver who created this dangerous work environment.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Romulus

One must wonder how the legislation has allowed the creation of a situation now demonstrated to be so dangerous. I doubt the policy makers risk assessed the situation enough for both;

• The 40km/h speed limit near emergency vehicles on high density, high speed main arterial roads
• The impounding of vehicles on such roads

There really isn't enough justification to impound a vehicle on the road side, why not ask the vehicle owner to surrender the vehicle such as what is required in rural WA where roadside vehicle impounding isn't practical.

As for Pusey allegedly being charged for destruction of evidence, that's a joke, they're his phones, he can do what he wants with them. I bet there's a lot of soul searching and internal reviews going on within VicPol as to how the deaths of the 4 officers could have been prevented and who's responsible for this occurring. It's not the truck driver or the Porsche driver who created this dangerous work environment.

Its just standard life, there is a huge disconnect between the people who do and the people who make the rules.

You make a good point, I wonder if there's a case under OHS legislation here because the police were involved, the side of the Eastern Freeway is their 'workplace'.