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blueoval · 18-01-2016, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GTpilot

Yes indeed. I'm staying in Victor from Wednesday, so time permitting I'm thinking of going for a recon of that on Thursday. I have slotted my nanny cassette (32-11) on in prep.

haha. I wish I had a MTB style cassette. Ive done Crows Nest a couple of times now on a 11-28. Starts off moderate for the first kay or so, then you'll hit a wall of about 10%+ for a good km. After that it's undulating with a few small pincher hills thrown in for good measure. Will test out those who have gone hard early and have left anything in the tank for the final climb.

GTpilot · 18-01-2016, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

haha. I wish I had a MTB style cassette. Ive done Crows Nest a couple of times now on a 11-28. Starts off moderate for the first kay or so, then you'll hit a wall of about 10%+ for a good km. After that it's undulating with a few small pincher hills thrown in for good measure. Will test out those who have gone hard early and have left anything in the tank for the final climb.

you riding in it?

blueoval · 18-01-2016, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GTpilot

you riding in it?

Nah I havent done enough training to do it this year. Work has me tied over. I'll be on Old Willunga Hill on Saturday for the Queen stage though. That is something worth climbing a hill for.

prydey · 18-01-2016, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GTpilot

I've never done a TDU ride before or been to the TDU. never climbed Nortons either so i'm certainly looking forward to it.

have you done big community rides before? they can be very chaotic, esp at the start where its stupidly congested. my first TDU ride 2 years ago, it took 15 min from gun going off, to me going under the start timing arch. it was only about 100m up the road.

last year was a lot better, as i lined up toward the front. first year i lined up in my sort of speed zone, but just ignore those. line up toward the front. avoids a lot of chaos.

Nortons is a cakewalk. 5.6km at about 5% ave. with so many riders on the road it will be over fairly quickly as when you are in a big group it tends to hide the reality a bit.

crows nest isn't too bad. i think it only gets to about 10% at the steepest section, which isn't that long. i've only done it once, and that was with about 80km in the legs i think (memory is hazy) and i went up fairly well with only a 28.

GTpilot · 18-01-2016, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

have you done big community rides before? they can be very chaotic, esp at the start where its stupidly congested. my first TDU ride 2 years ago, it took 15 min from gun going off, to me going under the start timing arch. it was only about 100m up the road.

last year was a lot better, as i lined up toward the front. first year i lined up in my sort of speed zone, but just ignore those. line up toward the front. avoids a lot of chaos.

Nortons is a cakewalk. 5.6km at about 5% ave. with so many riders on the road it will be over fairly quickly as when you are in a big group it tends to hide the reality a bit.

crows nest isn't too bad. i think it only gets to about 10% at the steepest section, which isn't that long. i've only done it once, and that was with about 80km in the legs i think (memory is hazy) and i went up fairly well with only a 28.

Yeah I've done a few before that's all good. The 32 basically makes my 11sp back to a 10 with an "oh crap" option. Got caught out in the cadel ride last year on Melville Rd.
100k in facing a 19% wall.

prydey · 18-01-2016, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GTpilot

100k in facing a 19% wall.

ouch!

mik · 19-01-2016, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NTF6

Way too much stuff Mik, I work on carrying only the essentials that will prevent me from having to push my ride home.

That is:
1 x tube (I run tubeless)
3 x mini tyre levers (clip together type, metal core)
1 x Multitool (Birzman - allen keys and chain breaker)
1 x Park Tool tyre boot (if my tyre sidewall is torn)
1 x Small hand pump
1 x CO2 kit
1 x 11 speed Sram connector link (if I break a chain)
1 x mobile phone

This all fits into the two zip pockets in my Camelbak

I figure the chances of something else breaking and forcing me to have to walk home are so remote that I just don't carry it.

you are probably right , i do carry a fair bit of stuff , i`m a bit eccentric when it comes to being prepared , i forgot to mention i also have a 11 mah power bank strapped to the bike to charge up my speaker or lights or phone should i need it

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thinking i might throw a first aid kit and some bandages in the kit for my style of riding lol.
looking at it another way , if i ever get on light bike with no crap on it ..... im gonna fly

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Batmobile · 19-01-2016, 03:15 PM

Disappointed I didn't make the cut this year for 2016 TDU. The guys flew out this morning . However , given the poor form I am currently hold , which needs to be addressed promptly, I wont miss the time trial from Adelaide to Victor Harbor and back and then follow up with Adelaide to Willunga Hill and back on the freeway to Adelaide with the Pro's - I tried just thinking about it

roKWiz · 20-01-2016, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NTF6

Way too much stuff Mik, I work on carrying only the essentials that will prevent me from having to push my ride home.

That is:
1 x tube (I run tubeless)
3 x mini tyre levers (clip together type, metal core)
1 x Multitool (Birzman - allen keys and chain breaker)
1 x Park Tool tyre boot (if my tyre sidewall is torn)
1 x Small hand pump
1 x CO2 kit
1 x 11 speed Sram connector link (if I break a chain)
1 x mobile phone

This all fits into the two zip pockets in my Camelbak

I figure the chances of something else breaking and forcing me to have to walk home are so remote that I just don't carry it.

Pretty much what I carry in my camelback too minus the CO2 cartridge and tyre boot.
and most importantly I ALWAYS CARRY MONEY.

I once broke a Mavic rear axle (locking up the rear wheel) on the trail, had to walk and carry my bike 5km out, back to the road. no tools fixed this one
Geoff

NTF6 · 20-01-2016, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by roKWiz

Pretty much what I carry in my camelback too minus the CO2 cartridge and tyre boot.
and most importantly I ALWAYS CARRY MONEY.

I once broke a Mavic rear axle (locking up the rear wheel) on the trail, had to walk and carry my bike 5km out, back to the road. no tools fixed this one
Geoff

I don't carry any money, there's nowhere to spend it out in the bush where I ride, unless I come across a hooker that's new to cycling.

blueoval · 20-01-2016, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NTF6

I don't carry any money, there's nowhere to spend it out in the bush where I ride, unless I come across a hooker that's new to cycling.

Having a $5 or $10 note handy is a good thing in case you get a slash in your tyre. You can fit it inside your tyre in the direction of the slash and it will protect your tube from damage for the ride home.

Whitey-AMG · 21-01-2016, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluey-GT

Personal choice , I certainly don't....
There are a number of reasons that at the elite level you may consider, the most valid with some merit would be post activity recovery massage and better ability to treat large wounds after a fall and slide.
http://www.bicycling.com/training/fi...ave-their-legs

Most other reasons are more akin to black magic....lol.
All that is needed is some hairy bugger to win the tour to re set the trend.
After all , cycling is 25% fitness , 25% lifestyle and 50% Show off.......

Stop press ! ...Sagan rides with hairy calves. Bigger news than cheap petrol prices...lol
http://www.bicycling.com/racing/pro-...GE_Bicycling__

NTF6 · 21-01-2016, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

Having a $5 or $10 note handy is a good thing in case you get a slash in your tyre. You can fit it inside your tyre in the direction of the slash and it will protect your tube from damage for the ride home.

That's why I carry one of these:

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/a...Q&gclsrc=aw.ds

prydey · 21-01-2016, 12:56 PM

quite a few places here in adelaide, esp the country areas, still have $10 minimum on card purchases, so it is handy to carry small amounts of cash.

blueoval · 21-01-2016, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NTF6

That's why I carry one of these:

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/a...Q&gclsrc=aw.ds

While I can see the appeal, a $5 note doesnt cost anything and once you get home you get to keep the cash.

mik · 21-01-2016, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by roKWiz

Pretty much what I carry in my camelback too minus the CO2 cartridge and tyre boot.
and most importantly I ALWAYS CARRY MONEY.

I once broke a Mavic rear axle (locking up the rear wheel) on the trail, had to walk and carry my bike 5km out, back to the road. no tools fixed this one
Geoff

very good point on the money , i always have a tenner stashed somewhere ,

touch wood , only had to use it once for a drink when i ran out of beverage , if i have had no where to put it i have even taken the battery cover off my note 4 and stuck a bill in there .

roKWiz · 21-01-2016, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mik

very good point on the money , i always have a tenner stashed somewhere ,

touch wood , only had to use it once for a drink when i ran out of beverage , if i have had no where to put it i have even taken the battery cover off my note 4 and stuck a bill in there .

Hey milk,
I roll up a twenty and stash it inside the handlebars, handy if you hit the wall and need a cold drink or feed.
Also a nice surprise when you can't find cash and realise there's twenty bucks on your bike.
I live out in the country long way between towns but money always come in handy.

mik · 21-01-2016, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by roKWiz

Hey milk,
I roll up a twenty and stash it inside the handlebars, handy if you hit the wall and need a cold drink or feed.
Also a nice surprise when you can't find cash and realise there's twenty bucks on your bike.
I live out in the country long way between towns but money always come in handy.

Oh good idea
, that's a nice a spot RoKWiz, I'll use that one, thanks ; ) .

Sent from Galaxy Note 4

**FairmontGS** · 22-01-2016, 10:03 AM

F$%k my luck - I broke another spoke on the Shimano RS 21 rear wheel this morning. That's 3 now. Always happens under load out of saddle up incline. Limped 10 km home. Is it just bladed spokes? Never had this trouble with non-bladed wheel set..

blueoval · 22-01-2016, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FairmontGS

F$%k my luck - I broke another spoke on the Shimano RS 21 rear wheel this morning. That's 3 now. Always happens under load out of saddle up incline. Limped 10 km home. Is it just bladed spokes? Never had this trouble with non-bladed wheel set..

I think the Shimano RS21's are usually made to price point and are usually ok for the average rider. You must be pushing out some big watts to break spokes that easily. Might be time for a wheelset upgrade

prydey · 22-01-2016, 02:43 PM

Is it a different spoke each time? I busted a spoke once. Used it as an excuse to upgrade

Batmobile · 22-01-2016, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FairmontGS

F$%k my luck - I broke another spoke on the Shimano RS 21 rear wheel this morning. That's 3 now. Always happens under load out of saddle up incline. Limped 10 km home. Is it just bladed spokes? Never had this trouble with non-bladed wheel set..

I would be taking your wheel to a different wheel builder .

There should be no reason why a 'good' wheel should be breaking spokes repeatly ..I would suggest that whom ever repaired your wheel has failed to do in the appropriate manner

**FairmontGS** · 22-01-2016, 06:22 PM

Well this time I'm going to buy the spoke and repair it myself. I'm 94 kg and 195 cm so a big unit but I've never had failures with non-bladed wheels. Yes, I do put out a bit of power when I attack hills as I enjoy the challenge. I reckon it could be time for something with a few more spokes..

prydey · 22-01-2016, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FairmontGS

I reckon it could be time for something with a few more spokes..

it won't be the spoke count that is the problem. i run campag zonda's, which are the same as fulcrum 3's, and they are rated to cope with over 100kg rider weight from memory.

there will be an underlying cause for continually breaking spokes.

mcnews · 22-01-2016, 08:38 PM

But spoke count can be a problem. I am breaking spokes in Giant SL-R0 front rim, under brakes down my driveway one went ping, it has eight spokes!!! My driveway is over 50 metres elevation change in 250 metres though so extreme.

mik · 23-01-2016, 04:30 PM

I`m not a fan of the light weight wheels , i think they may be on the knifes edge of reliability or breakage , does half a kilo make that much difference ? same goes for tyres imo, i guess if your racing it makes a difference, for touring/ staying in shape ???

**FairmontGS** · 23-01-2016, 04:45 PM

I do notice the difference between lightweight sets and tyres to normal. You get the feeling that you're really flying along. But it's a trade-off. I've fitted a normal rim and heavy tyre back on but I'll leave the front lightweight wheel on. I have an 80 km ride in the morning and don't trust the other rim anymore.

prydey · 23-01-2016, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mik

I`m not a fan of the light weight wheels , i think they may be on the knifes edge of reliability or breakage , does half a kilo make that much difference ? same goes for tyres imo, i guess if your racing it makes a difference, for touring/ staying in shape ???

There's nothing to worry about it you buy quality brands, and most cheaper ones won't give too much grief.

As for noticing the difference, my zonda's were less than half a kg lighter each rim but made a reasonable difference. They spin up much quicker and also maintain speed much better. It's all about where the weight is situated. Making the rotating mass lighter always helps.

Danny · 23-01-2016, 08:56 PM

I'd love a set of Campagnolo Shamal or Fulcrum Racing Zero.... Mmmmmm

mik · 24-01-2016, 01:38 PM

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I'd love a set of Campagnolo Shamal or Fulcrum Racing Zero.... Mmmmmm

just did google, they look good, but pricey little buggers, just the thought of a pothole would have me in tears

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