FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread - Page 8

Buntz · 23-10-2012, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

Ps, i know is messy...but im tired lol

That's just not good enough.

SS_01 · 23-10-2012, 11:08 AM

The only thing i disliked about Goauto's article, is they continue to talk about front wheel drive falcon's past 2016 when they have no actual proof; apart from hear say; that this is going to happen. The other thing that irritates me about that subject, is, that talk bares no relevance to that article at all.

On another note, Fantastic to see Ford boosting falcon up, its about bloody time; and i love what they did at the motorshow this year. Fantastic effort all round, and look forward to getting to the Melbourne motorshow next year to see and possibly sample some of the latest offerings

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Road_Warrior · 23-10-2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by VW_060606

The only thing i disliked about Goauto's article, is they continue to talk about front wheel drive falcon's past 2016 when they have no actual proof; apart from hear say; that this is going to happen. The other thing that irritates me about that subject, is, that talk bares no relevance to that article at all.

You're right there, maybe they hired a Drive journalist.

Hawkeye84 · 23-10-2012, 11:41 AM

Heres my rendition of the 2014 Falcon.
A bit of Mondeo, a bit of ecosport, a bit of territory
Ive added fog lights AND moved the DRLs to the bottom

**EASYBOSS** · 23-10-2012, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye84

Heres my rendition of the 2014 Falcon.
A bit of Mondeo, a bit of ecosport, a bit of territory
Ive added fog lights AND moved the DRLs to the bottom

I hope you dont work at Fords design department

Hawkeye84 · 23-10-2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by EASYBOSS

I hope you dont work at Fords design department

Does it look that bad?

Oh well, i just took on Chris Svensson brief that itll have the DNA of the mondeo and eco sport and did a quick photoshop job

BrisVegas · 23-10-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye84

Heres my rendition of the 2014 Falcon.
A bit of Mondeo, a bit of ecosport, a bit of territory
Ive added fog lights AND moved the DRLs to the bottom

Looks pretty good to me. Definitely a noticeable change over the current front end.

Hawkeye84 · 23-10-2012, 01:47 PM

Heres a more conservative rendition.
My earlier one was quite out there.

99AUXR · 23-10-2012, 02:45 PM

Good to see NZ police may be switching to ford

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**EASYBOSS** · 23-10-2012, 03:04 PM

That would be good, is it just hear say, a maybe, or actually happening

Bossxr8 · 23-10-2012, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LOWAU

Only the 6 cylinder EcoLPI is as far I know, not the petrol one.

LPi is putting out Euro 6 levels at the tailpipe. But the petrol 6 can supposedly go to Euro 5 quite easily, its just wether the development dollars justify it or not I guess.

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Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

seems ford AS USUAL is on the right track. Its a long time till 2014 and all the forum fans and the evergood journos just start writing garbage as early as they want. looks like ford has a great plan ahead with an awesome lineup. Only downside is, we may have to loose a few things like maybe the 4.0 six. But if we keep the ecolpi..its the same thing only better. Looks like lateish next year well get a good SOLID sneak peak to interest maybe possible vf buyers and not dent current models to much. Sounds like a feaseable plan to me.

You can't just make the LPi versions, there's no way it would be cost effecitive to run the casting and engine plants to just build 20-30 LPi engines a day and not spread the expense across a whole range of petrol, turbo and LPG variants. I really can't see how they can even do it cost effectively at 85 engines a day they will be running after the downbalance, considering we used to run at 480 a day 10 years ago.

Fixed costs don't change much between 480 and 85.

99AUXR · 23-10-2012, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by EASYBOSS

That would be good, is it just hear say, a maybe, or actually happening

There was a article on the news last night about it. They are doing a review because of petrol prices and are looking at removing the thirsty V6 commodores from our fleets and were looking at updating. Options are Mondeo, Ecoboost and a few others. I hope they go ecoboost. Plenty of room, performance and still get fuel economy.

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/gas-...-video-5145327

Buntz · 23-10-2012, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

You can't just make the LPi versions, there's no way it would be cost effecitive to run the casting and engine plants to just build 20-30 LPi engines a day and not spread the expense across a whole range of petrol, turbo and LPG variants. I really can't see how they can even do it cost effectively at 85 engines a day they will be running after the downbalance, considering we used to run at 480 a day 10 years ago.

Fixed costs don't change much between 480 and 85.

One would have to assume Boss... that when they take away availability for the Petrol, then more people would turn to the EcoLPi or EcoBoost offerings.

Only thing wrong there is the Turbo would be no more... and we need that. (Or do we?)

EDManual · 23-10-2012, 09:14 PM

I hear at the Ford casting plant that they do not do 85 a day like is suggested, and in fact run a full shift just once a week or so on blocks and make a weeks worth in one batch, and the rest of the week is spent doing brake discs etc that are used on toyotas etc.

The ford casting plant is one of the only large scale steel casting plants left in Oz.

Nikked · 23-10-2012, 09:23 PM

galaxy xr8 · 23-10-2012, 09:31 PM

I like your photo chop work but I don't like that, I hope the rear end doesn't look like that.

FPV GTHO · 23-10-2012, 09:31 PM

A bit .....ehhh

Maybe just with the bumper mounted tail lights to complement the FG tail lights as opposed to the whole Fudeo rear end.

jpd80 · 23-10-2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

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Oh my, that is nice..

Buntz · 23-10-2012, 09:52 PM

I hope it doesn't get those tailights

Pepscobra · 23-10-2012, 09:56 PM

I love this thread... not even two months ago we were talking about the Falcon not surviving beyong 2014, now we're looking forward to an all new model.

Long Live The Ford Falcon.

Road_Warrior · 23-10-2012, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

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Can you chop the back end of the current Toreass onto it?

Buntz · 23-10-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Can you chop the back end of the current Toreass onto it?

Umm... that would be worse.

The Snout · 24-10-2012, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye84

Heres my rendition of the 2014 Falcon.
A bit of Mondeo, a bit of ecosport, a bit of territory
Ive added fog lights AND moved the DRLs to the bottom

Already been done.

pursuit2359 · 24-10-2012, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by VW_060606

The only thing i disliked about Goauto's article, is they continue to talk about front wheel drive falcon's past 2016 when they have no actual proof; apart from hear say; that this is going to happen. The other thing that irritates me about that subject, is, that talk bares no relevance to that article at all.

I'm going to defend GoAuto on this one. Ford have moved to global platforms and do not have a large, RWD platform; the Mustang wheelbase is too short and Australia is the only Ford market with a current, large RWD sedan. The development costs required to provide variable wheelbase length for the Mustang platform will not be justified just for Australia. The current trend is for FWD vehicles with flexibility for AWD.

Brazen · 24-10-2012, 08:58 AM

Being at the motor show and seeing the new Mondeo, I do hope they drop it when the Falcon is updated - it looks way too much like a Falcon competitor. Add the diesel to Falcon and the Mondeo features and get it back up to 2000 units a month.

stang65 · 24-10-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sprint

aussies like there big cars too much, but as for the falcon,I imagine a 4cyclinder eco boost falcon lol.

aka 1980 vb commodore days.

but you may get a snappy eight speed trans to make that poxy motor have some getup but no go

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You forget that this poxy motor has a turbo attatched and has quite a bit of get up and go comparing it to something made 30+ years ago is ridiculous.

mac_man_luke · 24-10-2012, 10:31 AM

isnt it only a few tenths slower to 100 than the 6?

SS_01 · 24-10-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pursuit2359

I'm going to defend GoAuto on this one. Ford have moved to global platforms and do not have a large, RWD platform; the Mustang wheelbase is too short and Australia is the only Ford market with a current, large RWD sedan. The development costs required to provide variable wheelbase length for the Mustang platform will not be justified just for Australia. The current trend is for FWD vehicles with flexibility for AWD.

I agree that at this point in time it looks that way, however, this is all speculation and no one really knows exactly what Ford as a whole have in the pipeline. GoAuto and other media websites should concentrate on what the article is about, which is in 2014 we have a newly updated Falcon coming to the market to combat the VF commodore.

If they want to speculate on what is or isn't coming in 2016-18, then do so in a separate article labelled "Falcon/Commodore Speculation, what does 2016 and beyond Hold?". But they have already consistently spoken at length on what they consider is going to happen, and they do not need to harp on about it, or bring a reasonable article down by including speculation that does not relate to what is happening in 2014.

Finally, people need to remember that platforms are always being designed for the future, which could hold anything for us here in Australia. Until such time as Ford Australia or America formally announce what is actually happening with the Falcon, all speculation does, is plant seeds of doubt within peoples heads.

SS_01 · 24-10-2012, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mac_man_luke

isnt it only a few tenths slower to 100 than the 6?

Yep, .2 of a second to be exact, ripper little motor!!! I remember reading in one of the motoring mags that the ecoboost falcon went fast around i think it was wakefield, 2 seconds faster than Toyota's 86!!!

jpd80 · 24-10-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pursuit2359

I'm going to defend GoAuto on this one. Ford have moved to global platforms and do not have a large, RWD platform; the Mustang wheelbase is too short and Australia is the only Ford market with a current, large RWD sedan. The development costs required to provide variable wheelbase length for the Mustang platform will not be justified just for Australia. The current trend is for FWD vehicles with flexibility for AWD.

For Falcon to get to 2018, it may only cost Ford $50M (2014) and another $20 M in 2016..

I call that economically viable..