New Aurion Presara $50,490 !!!! - Page 8

MAGPIE · 03-06-2015, 09:19 AM

Where does the Aurion Presara sit on the "Cool Wall"

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MAD · 03-06-2015, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MAGPIE

Where does the Aurion Presara sit on the "Cool Wall"

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Carpark.. no wait... at the turn-off from the main road to get to the Top Gear studio.

Iggle Piggle · 03-06-2015, 10:00 AM

I must get my wife's i45 onto some wet grass and then film the dash to see what 0-100 time a stock 4 cylinder Hyundai can manage.

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Originally Posted by Shonky.

Have you ever been to a timed event, be it a drag strip, circuit or other?

Should be clear that 'other timed event' does not include a visit to a brothel.

Ford17 · 03-06-2015, 10:33 AM

Can't believe the Camry love going on here of late.
The Camry epitomises motoring blandness to a tee.

Add to that there is no pizazz, no flair, and more importantly no heritage behind the car or the name.
In this respect, it cannot hold a candle against the Falcon, which has umpteen gutsy Bathurst and ATCC wins behind it, with driving legends like Moffat, Gibson, Johnson, Bowe, Ambrose, and Frosty all ingrained in its folklore. It's the current reining Bathurst winner.

As was also mentioned, unlike the XR6T, there's no cult-car status going on with it either.

0-100 times in the 6 seconds bracket is all well and good, but that can't be compared to cars running in the 5 second bracket.
Much like 5 second bracket cars can't be compared to 4 second bracket cars - this "only a second in it" argument is rubbish.

I doubt any of this is news to most Ford and/or performance car enthusiasts.

However, for the benefit of the Camry aficionados who are close to placing their orders, I've just checked to see whether Camry's are still available in beige.

Unfortunately they are not - the closest colour is called 'magnetic bronze'.

BENT_8 · 03-06-2015, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by zilo

My neighbour's EA falcon is out by 20k's....

Hilarious, obviously the salt waters gone to your head Gilligan...

I was just pointing out that a 2010 car is out by 4k's, cant imagine they would have messed with the speedo's calibration in the newer models.

Express · 03-06-2015, 11:03 AM

I thought all manufacturers of mass produced cars ensured speedo readings are a few k’s faster (per 100km/h) than actual in case of discrepancies to stop law suits arising from driver’s being booked for speeding.

Or is that just an urban myth?

prydey · 03-06-2015, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Express

I thought all manufacturers of mass produced cars ensured speedo readings are a few k’s faster (per 100km/h) than actual in case of discrepancies to stop law suits arising from driver’s being booked for speeding.

Or is that just an urban myth?

since 2006 no manufacturer can have a speedo that reads less than the actual road speed, and it mustn't read above the road speed by more than 10%.

obviously if any changes are made to the car, including tyres, the onus is on the owner to make sure the speedo is still correct.

**cs123** · 03-06-2015, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Express

I thought all manufacturers of mass produced cars ensured speedo readings are a few k’s faster (per 100km/h) than actual in case of discrepancies to stop law suits arising from driver’s being booked for speeding.

Or is that just an urban myth?

I think the law states that speedos cannot read low. But every car I have been in reads a little high.

Express · 03-06-2015, 11:19 AM

I found this but there are many more articles that involve the more technical aspect of ADR's and the general rule is most speedos read high.

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How accurate is your speedo?

Date July 16, 2014
Sam Hall
Motoring Writer

An exclusive Drive test has shown 93 per cent of new car speedometers are inaccurate.

A five-month study of 60 new vehicles ranging in price from $14,490 to $441,300 showed most speedos measured over the posted limit by an average of 5km/h at 100km/h – well within the Australian Design Rule parameters.

The difference in readings - as much as 6 per cent at 100km/h - can partially explain the difference in driving speeds on some freeways.

It's particularly noticeable on heavily policed sections of road, where tailgating can be rife as frustrated drivers either urge others to speed up or are afraid to inch over what their vehicle's speedometer is displaying.

The Drive test was undertaken using a satellite phone app on the same flat stretch of road, with the device mounted securely in a cradle. Sitting on 100km/h with the cruise control activated, testers monitored the true speed of the app over a period of about 60 seconds, comparing it with a vehicle’s indicated speed. The app reading was then compared to an industry-certified GPS performance meter, to ensure absolute accuracy.

Of the 60 vehicles tested, four – three Jeep Cherokees and an Audi A5 2.0 TFSI - came back with a perfect 100km/h reading, while a Mahindra Genio ute was next best with a 99km/h reading.

The worst culprits for inaccuracy were the Nissan Juke, Toyota Kluger, Alfa Romeo MiTo and Jeep Wrangler (all 6km/h off). To-date, the most inaccurate reading obtained by Drive was in a Nissan Patrol, which was out by 11km/h.

As a general rule, luxury cars fared better in the testing than regular passenger cars – usually within 2km/h of the true speed.

All cars fell within the parameters of an Australian Design Rule that requires that the speedo must not indicate a speed less than the vehicle’s true speed or a speed greater than the vehicle’s true speed by an amount of more than 10 per cent plus 4km/h.

That is, with the speedo displaying 100km/h the vehicle must be travelling between 87.3km/h and 100km/h. This gives the perception that drivers are travelling faster than what they really are - or exactly at the limit.

The test was performed on near-new tyres and on vehicles with fewer than 10,000km on the odometer.

The biggest fluctuations in speed readings usually come from tyre wear, pressure and tread depth, as well as calibration of the speedo.

The difference between a new and worn set of tyres usually equates to about 3km/h at 100km/h, as the car will actually be travelling slightly slower for the same reading on worn tyres.

Car Actual speed at 100km/h
Mazda3 GT 25 98
Toyota Corolla Ascent sedan manual 95
Honda Odyssey VTi-L 96
Subaru WRX (pre production model) 96
BMW 220i Coupe 98
Mercedes-Benz CLA200 98
Kia Soul 96
Hyundai iLoad 95
Nissan Juke 94
Toyota Corolla ZR auto sedan 95
Range Rover Evoque Coupe pure SD4 auto 96
Audi RSQ3 98
Mazda3 SP5 Astina 97
Audi A5 2.0TFSI 100
Volvo XC60 T5 98
Toyota Kluger 94
Volvo S60 Polestar 98
Volkswagen Golf GTI 98
Toyota Kluger 4x4 95
Volvo V40 97
BMW X5 25i sDrive 98
Subaru WRX STI 98
Porsche Cayenne S diesel 97
Toyota Kluger GXL AWD 96
Volvo XC60 D4 96
Volkswagen Golf Wagon 90TSI Comfortline 95
Range Rover Evoque coupe 95
Hyundai Elantra 98
Volkswagen Golf Wagon 110TDI Highline 96
Kia Cerato S 96
Skoda Octavia RS wagon 95
Toyota Corolla sedan 96
Holden Cruze 97
Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV 95
Nissan X-Trail ST-L 2WD 95
Porsche 911 Turbo 98
Audi TT 2.0TFSI quattro 98
Dodge Journey 98
Subaru BRZ 97
Porsche Panamera Turbo S 98
Jaguar XJR 95
Volkswagen Golf GTI 96
Holden SS Commodore 97
Toyota 86 96
Skoda Octavia RS sedan 95
BMW X1 96
Mini Cooper 96
Alfa Romeo Mito 94
Hyundai Accent 97
Honda City 97
Jeep Wrangler 94
Renault Clio GT 97
Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk 100
Jeep Cherokee Limited 100
BMW M4 98
Jeep Cherokee Longitude V6 100
Mini Cooper S 98
Mitsubishi mirage sedan 98
Range Rover LWB 5.0 SC 94
Mahindra Genio 99

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/h...716-ztmh4.html

BENT_8 · 03-06-2015, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Express

I thought all manufacturers of mass produced cars ensured speedo readings are a few k’s faster (per 100km/h) than actual in case of discrepancies to stop law suits arising from driver’s being booked for speeding.

Or is that just an urban myth?

Correct, so when my Wife is doing 100 by the speedo she is actually doing 96 on the Tomtom.

mik · 03-06-2015, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Express

I found this but there are many more articles that involve the more technical aspect of ADR's and the general rule is most speedos read high.

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/h...716-ztmh4.html

Interesting, and not a single ford on the list unless my old eyes are deceiving me, fords would no doubt fit in with the average slightly optimistic, my au speedo has been 5 or 6 ks optimistic from day dot.

OzJavelin · 03-06-2015, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ford17

However, for the benefit of the Camry aficionados who are close to placing their orders, I've just checked to see whether Camry's are still available in beige.

Unfortunately they are not - the closest colour is called 'magnetic bronze'.

I always thought that colour on Toyotas was officially called "Bowling Club Bronze"?

Express · 03-06-2015, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mik

Interesting, and not a single ford on the list unless my old eyes are deceiving me, fords would no doubt fit in with the average slightly optimistic, my au speedo has been 5 or 6 ks optimistic from day dot.

I noticed that as well though I didn’t read too much into it, I just saw it as the Anti Ford bias expected from Drive.

jpblue1000 · 03-06-2015, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Express

I noticed that as well though I didn’t read too much into it, I just saw it as the Anti Ford bias expected from Drive.

Maybe cause they didn't test one?

JP

hadyh · 03-06-2015, 04:31 PM

Not bad 8 pages and adding , I'm sure when I had my Aurion Presara not even that many reply's in the Toyota forum..

**Ratmick** · 03-06-2015, 04:37 PM

As a sidebar is the Aurion still made in Japan?

The Camry is made in Thailand now as far as I am aware...

Whitey-AMG · 03-06-2015, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hadyh

Not bad 8 pages and adding , I'm sure when I had my Aurion Presara not even that many reply's in the Toyota forum..

Thats cos they dont have HULK on the TOYOTA forum.......

Franco Cozzo · 03-06-2015, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratmick

As a sidebar is the Aurion still made in Japan?

The Camry is made in Thailand now as far as I am aware...

Its made in Altona I think man?

XR Martin · 03-06-2015, 04:44 PM

Aurion has always been made here. We're also the only nation where it and the Camry are separate models, elsewhere you either get one or the other (and badged only as a Camry)

Express · 03-06-2015, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jpblue1000

Maybe cause they didn't test one?

JP

I should have put a 'smiley' with my 'evil idea' icon as it was a tongue in cheek comment.

And you’re right, it’s because they didn’t test one.

marty351 · 03-06-2015, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MAD

Carpark.. no wait... at the turn-off from the main road to get to the Top Gear studio.

Disabled zone in a hospital Carpark.

Soulsearcher · 03-06-2015, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratmick

As a sidebar is the Aurion still made in Japan?

The Camry is made in Thailand now as far as I am aware...

Both camry and aurion are manufactured in Altona, with a factory close scheduled for late 2017.

Bossxr8 · 03-06-2015, 09:15 PM

Can we have Hulk permabanned. Please oh please. Sick of his rubbish threads beyond the realms of sanity, just cause he loves to troll.

zilo · 04-06-2015, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

Correct, so when my Wife is doing 100 by the speedo she is actually doing 96 on the Tomtom.

An indicator of your lacklustre income.

My wife's AMG optioned Mercedes does 100 when the speedo indicates 100.

**Mechan1k** · 04-06-2015, 02:17 AM

*yawn* is this thread not locked yet?

**EASYBOSS** · 04-06-2015, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Can we have Hulk permabanned. Please oh please. Sick of his rubbish threads beyond the realms of sanity, just cause he loves to troll.

Hulk is not the OP

malazn mafia · 04-06-2015, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by zilo

An indicator of your lacklustre income.

My wife's AMG optioned Mercedes does 100 when the speedo indicates 100.

Hired an SX Territory in 07. Indicated 100kph on speedo matched 100kph on GPS. That car was so awesome, smooth and comfy I would have bought it in a heartbeat, had it been for sale.