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05-03-2016, 09:48 PM | #2551 | ||
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06-03-2016, 12:09 AM | #2552 | |||
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well, there you go. hardly a KOM when you're the only person on the list i thought you were talking about this one https://www.strava.com/segments/8670037 |
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06-03-2016, 11:43 AM | #2553 | |||
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I would tend to disagree, it's like having hard tyres on a 4x4 when you go bush. If irresistible force meets immovable object then you're bound to get a flat. Running lower pressures allows the tyre to be flexible when encountering objects that would normally puncture the tyre. I run a tubeless downhill front tyre and it never goes over 18 psi. My rear sits at 23 psi and I ride some of the most puncture prone areas available and I don't get any flats ever on 30k rides.
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06-03-2016, 03:49 PM | #2555 | ||
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Yep, Stans
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06-03-2016, 04:56 PM | #2556 | |||
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06-03-2016, 06:20 PM | #2557 | ||
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March gran fondo yesterday and couldnt resist a snap under the bridge just as you get off the kew boulevard down the steps....
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06-03-2016, 06:54 PM | #2558 | |||
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And that is why you don't get punctures. To really get the full picture I would have to know what type of punctures he is getting. If they a pinch flats then pressure is definitely the problem, if they are foreign bodies then pressure may contribute. Quote:
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06-03-2016, 07:03 PM | #2559 | ||
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Stans won't repair a 6mm hole, it comes down to the impact force. Tyres inflated over 35psi don't allow enough give on an impact. Stans is brilliant at repairing prickle punctures. Rock strike punctures are determined by your pressure. I'm talking tubeless only and not referring to pinch flats on tubes. As a crude example, blow a balloon up really hard a see how easy it is to burst via any method. Blow a balloon up with 1/3 the previous volume and see how difficult it is to puncture/rupture even with something sharp.
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06-03-2016, 07:14 PM | #2560 | |||
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06-03-2016, 07:44 PM | #2561 | ||
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It was MTB if I remember correctly.
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06-03-2016, 07:56 PM | #2562 | ||
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If that is the case then I am inclined to agree with you as MTB tyre construction is different to road and the hazards vary as well with a lot higher incidence of sharp rocks and other larger sharp items. I can see the relevance of tubeless tyres on a MTB, increased grip and tyre conforming to the ground better with no risk of pinch flats.
Road bikes encounter smaller sharp hazards that will tend to snap or crush against a hard tyre rather than partially embed in a softer tyre ready to work their way through on subsequent tyre rotations.
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06-03-2016, 08:04 PM | #2564 | ||
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Certainly makes mine look old and slow.
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07-03-2016, 09:14 AM | #2566 | ||
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07-03-2016, 11:04 AM | #2568 | ||
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Impressive bird, imagine if he had his own bike .
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07-03-2016, 08:08 PM | #2569 | |||
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As for Specialized ( I don't own one ) - have a look at some of their more advanced offerings . They make some great bikes , unlike Reid. Last edited by SumoDog68; 07-03-2016 at 08:15 PM. |
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07-03-2016, 08:30 PM | #2570 | ||||
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Actually chances are it's from Taiwan. Probably the same factory as my 9 yr olds MTB. But who's keeping track. For $900 with FULL 5800 series groupo, I challenge you to find anything better...brand new that is not made in china/Taiwan. Where 100% of the worlds aluminium bike frames are made. This is not a conversation about 2nd hand bikes. As for top end specialised or s-works yeah, news flash, they are made in Taiwan too. You missed my point dude. We are talking sub 1k NEW bikes here.
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07-03-2016, 09:39 PM | #2571 | ||
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You want to look at design and technology check out Treks new Madone,there is nothing like this on the market.Ried bikes are from china and are complete cheap bad handling bikes
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07-03-2016, 10:39 PM | #2572 | ||
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A lot of stuff made in Taiwan is of excellent quality.
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08-03-2016, 01:11 AM | #2573 | ||||
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: Oh - FFS! welcome to this thread! may I suggest you go back a few pages and read the question that prompted my response. Personally I would not buy one for me, but perhaps you may like to consider those people looking for a sub 1k (Brand new road) bike really don't know the difference in how a bike handles, and at this price point, they don't even care. They just want to get out and ride a few k's for fun. No HRM, no power meter, WTF is NP? They might say (can you explain NP.....without Googling it?) They really don't know what cadence is either ...and don't care! It's a bit like someone asking for a decent car to drive to the train station and back each day, and suggesting they get a GT. The original question was about a sub 1k road bike, thus, I mentioned the REID. If you can suggest something better UNDER 1k. Go ahead. So far none has been able to. A Trek Madone is not under 1k. BTW, where is a Madone made?
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08-03-2016, 03:20 PM | #2574 | |||
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I am also very cautious about suggesting anyone new to the sport by anything second hand. A complete novice picking a used bike with no warranty is a recipe for disaster. Bikes like the Reid are a good intro bike as long as you accept that you will want better if the cycling bug bites hard within the next couple of years. The way I look at it is a novice buys a new bike for $1k and upgrades in 12 months, they sell the starter bike for $400 so their expense is $600. If they went out a bought a better bike with more longevity, for arguments sake a $3k bike. That bike will lose more than $600 in value in the first 12 months anyway. With that in perspective the $1k starter bike is not a bad idea.
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08-03-2016, 04:50 PM | #2575 | |||
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I often say , do your research , talk to those that have travelled the journey and discuss with friends what they have done and what experiences they would not duplicate again given the opportunity Too often first time purchasers are driven by the $ fail to under cycling is something you do on a inert item |
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08-03-2016, 05:29 PM | #2576 | ||
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Yes it is.
For a while now there has been a quantum shift in the supply of high end bikes. USA and Europe were offloading to Taiwan for the entry level stuff but keeping the high end manufacturing. This is changing with Taiwan cementing itself as a centre of excellence for high end manufacturing in many industries.....and bespoke bikes is one of them. An old article but a good one that explains some of the conundrums going on. http://cyclingiq.com/2011/11/28/taiw...es-from-china/ Fwiw, my giant OCR composite was made in Taiwan and has been a loyal and faultless piece of engineering for many many years. I would actually seek out a bike made in Taiwan these days......
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08-03-2016, 07:49 PM | #2577 | |||
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Agreed but a novice going to buy a $2k or $3k machine can end up in the same boat. It is not until you start to consider very serious machines that the effort is more widespread in fit out. In fact a person who is a complete novice looking for a second hand back is even more exposed to being sold a poorly fitting bike. With a bit of research and help from knowledgeable friends (one that actually know what they are talking bout) a novice could buy that Reid and have a good starting out point. A stem and seat change later if required is not a big cost if some fine tuning is needed. I have a machine with a retail worth over $10k and I have over 30 years of competitive cycling and triathlon experience and some would say there are fit issues with my bike.
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08-03-2016, 07:54 PM | #2578 | |||
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08-03-2016, 10:44 PM | #2579 | |||
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Excellent point - all of which I agree . I guess in summary we are both saying 'research' and talk to the one's you can trust whom have travelled the often winding road of proper fit , before you buy . New , second hand , entry level or pro , above the price point the correct fitting and type of bike to suit your application should be paramount |
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08-03-2016, 11:10 PM | #2580 | |||
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Madone models are made in china , Taiwan and the USA Depending on the level of the carbon used,just for your info Trek have 5 levels of carbon frames .Yes I didn't read all the thread So my bad.If some people on this thread want some real life advise I have 39 years in the trade in all sections,bike specification, Mechanics,Wholesale and running a succesfull import company for 20 of those years as well as a fair stint in retail,you talk to anyone in the industry and they will know me but if you just want to sat FFS well good luck to you.
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