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Old 18-09-2023, 01:43 PM   #2611
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91. Given the static timing, you'd have to pick the fuel you want and tune really
Was curious.
Late XF usually running on recommended 91 but running a modified XE vacuum dizzy.
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Old 18-09-2023, 01:51 PM   #2612
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Whats better, you reckon Mick in a 250 crossflow carby 91 or 95 98 ??
Can't say I notice much difference to be honest.
91 unleaded Octane with stock engine alloy head would be best for sure. no point with 95 or 98 at all because such low compression.

A iron head 4.1L XC XD need 95 octane to run in good tune but you could run such on 91 octane by retarding the spark timing, but chew more fuel going that way.

The cars from 2010 on are like 10.0:1 and more, mine is 10.5:1
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OK, not for me I would rather not risk running crap through my injectors
are you driving work cars ?? E10

or a garaged weekend special ?? 98
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Old 18-09-2023, 04:53 PM   #2614
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Just got my EB11 back on the road after it sat in the workshop yard for over 6 yrs. The fuel pump had failed, the whole assembly was coated in what looked like varnish or shellac, drained the tank and tried to wash it out with clean 91, nothing doing. Poured in a bottle of metho, moved it around with a chucks cloth and it came out looking like I'd been wood finishing. Kept wringing out the cloth and mopping up the metho till it all seemed to be out of the tank and my hands stung like I'd poured acetone on them after sanding the skin off.
A long wash and the some of the bosses hand lotion later, went back to make a second attempt, the rag had dried and was now solid.
New rag, second bottle of metho, cleaned up much better, replaced the fuel filter and fitted the new pump, a third bottle of metho in an ice cream container, and put the pump in that to pump it through the fuel system with the fuel pressure reg removed, that came out like dark brown shellac. Clean E10 through till it ran clean, replaced the fuel pressure regulator, installed the pump in the tank and 1/2 filled with 91 .... fired up near straight away ..... fuel pressure reg has a hole in the diaphragm so the vacuum pipe is running into a 5 ltr fuel container until I can source a replacement .... but apart from that, it's running like a dream ....

Not sure if many people know, but metho is 100% ethanol, after the clean up it did on a very dirt fuel system, I'll be adding a bottle to every tank for a while to get any stuff that didn't come out before ...... ethanol is a great fuel system cleaner ....

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are you driving work cars ?? E10

or a garaged weekend special ?? 98
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Old 22-09-2023, 03:44 PM   #2616
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Got the ex taxi Prius back on the road, new traction battery needed, filled it with fuel as the first test drive, $85 back home and parked it. After the shock, I figured it might be an investment, I wonder how much 40 ltrs will be worth in a week or so with the long weekend coming up .....

I've also got a 2010 Blade Electron 5, the fifth generation on the EV built in Australia in Castlemaine ... but all the battery cells were lost in our workshop fire ........ might have to do the maths and see how many kms I'd need to travel in it to be in front compared to the fuel costs in the Prius ...... no point in doing the same calculations for the EB, there is a price to be paid for the pleasure of driving

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Seeing $2.45/L for 98 around central VIC at the moment
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I'm just glad I do most of my driving on 80-100 kay roads which are mostly free flowing otherwise I'd be spending a fortune more on petrol at the moment
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Russia just banned the export of gasoline and diesel to all countries except for a handful of ex soviet states.

$3 here we come.
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Russia just banned the export of gasoline and diesel to all countries except for a handful of ex soviet states.

$3 here we come.
Most of their current oil product exports is crude oil anyway (not gasoline or diesel).
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Old 22-09-2023, 08:21 PM   #2621
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Most of their current oil product exports is crude oil anyway (not gasoline or diesel).
Yeah but you know how its like with fuel prices, the wind changes direction and the price of 91 jumps by 40c/L in Melbourne.

I wonder if the price increases in fuel is going to send inflation up again.
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OPEC cartel are deliberately cutting production which will make prices jump. And then there is Russia with all the other **** that goes with it.
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Yeah but you know how its like with fuel prices, the wind changes direction and the price of 91 jumps by 40c/L in Melbourne.

I wonder if the price increases in fuel is going to send inflation up again.
They are already talking about another rate rise in November due to the inflation fuel prices will cause along with the knock on effect to food costs etc.
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OPEC cartel are deliberately cutting production which will make prices jump. And then there is Russia with all the other **** that goes with it.
They're trying to break the international support for Ukraine, by hurting everyone at home and OPEC are just the usual money hungry assholes they've always been capitalising on the international sanctions against one of the worlds largest oil and gas suppliers.

Bring on EVs
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They're trying to break the international support for Ukraine, by hurting everyone at home and OPEC are just the usual money hungry assholes they've always been capitalising on the international sanctions against one of the worlds largest oil and gas suppliers.

Bring on EVs
Yep we all know that and to some extent it is working. EVs. They forget pretty much all the other parts of the EVs are made with fossil fuels

Reminds me the ACT election is next year and there is a good chance that the Greenies could take over officially
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LPG 0.85 today..... I will see myself out.
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LPG 0.85 today..... I will see myself out.
I'm currently chasing up information on LPG conversion for my work ute at the moment, doing 700km-1000km/week in ye olde unleaded Bravo is costing me a fair bit at 11L-14L/100km
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I'm currently chasing up information on LPG conversion for my work ute at the moment, doing 700km-1000km/week in ye olde unleaded Bravo is costing me a fair bit at 11L-14L/100km
What do you do in it?
My XR6T, whilst it doesnt get used much returns 13.5L/100. Maybe im doing it wrong

My local BP has had a reno, LPG gone. Having had LPG cars in years gone by, id never ever consider it again.
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What do you do in it?
My XR6T, whilst it doesnt get used much returns 13.5L/100. Maybe im doing it wrong

My local BP has had a reno, LPG gone. Having had LPG cars in years gone by, id never ever consider it again.
I think she's just old tech, 8.4:1 compression ratio and ladder rack with a huge hoop on it is like a sail in a headwind and I'm working the **** out of it

Its getting a beating on an access track in and out of a forest at the moment thats around 5km or so but it doesn't seem to effect fuel economy too much.

Does 11L-14L/100km regardless how much I lay into it or how softly it gets driven, its not too bad our work one when I was an apprentice did 17.5L/100km but it was all suburban driving.

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LPG was great in my ecolpi. Awesome car and so much power (even more than the petrol version). When the stations started to disappear, I saw the writing on the wall and let it go. Shame because it was my equal favourite Falcon along with the Exoboost.
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LPG was great in my ecolpi. Awesome car and so much power (even more than the petrol version). When the stations started to disappear, I saw the writing on the wall and let it go. Shame because it was my equal favourite Falcon along with the Exoboost.
LPG availability in Melbourne is pretty good for now, especially locally to me I've got a lot of servos to choose from, though you can see the new servos don't have it.

Curious as to the conversion costs, given the amount of driving I'm doing it would only take maybe 4 months or so to pay off the conversion in fuel savings.

The other alternative is look into diesel ute but the price of those is pretty exy in single cab compared to say $3000-$4000 in LPG conversion cost on the old ****ter.

Technically I have a diesel ute already, it just has a 24 tonne GVM, I'm somewhat curious as to what fuel economy it will do unloaded, if it works out cheaper than the Thailux I might start driving that as the daily once I've sorted it out, somehow I doubt its going to beat 14L/100km
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Quicks LPG in Ballarat should be able to give you a quote.
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You hate electric cars and then complain about the price of fuel?! That makes sense.
I complain about electricty pricing, EV will only exacerbate this..
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I complain about electricty pricing, EV will only exacerbate this..
Electricity is really cheap still. Even with the hikes, it's only a fraction of petrol. About 5% of petrol costs charging purely off the grid considering a car doing 10L/100.

Electricity is only an issue if you have to pay for fuel on top of electricity.
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Prices in Sunbury tonight,

Remember when we had a car manufacturing industry, that made cars that run on the fuel that costs .80c/L?
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Remember when we had a car manufacturing industry, that made cars that run on the fuel that costs .80c/L?
It was 39 cents a litre for LPG when I bought my first LPG Falcon. Good times.

Back then, petrol was more than 3 times the price of gas. Now it's 2.5 or so.

That 80 cents should jump once the northern hemisphere winter starts.
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It was 39 cents a litre for LPG when I bought my first LPG Falcon. Good times.

Back then, petrol was more than 3 times the price of gas. Now it's 2.5 or so.

That 80 cents should jump once the northern hemisphere winter starts.
Its sitting at $1.03/L at the local AMPOL servos because they're flogs,
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Its sitting at $1.03/L at the local AMPOL servos because they're flogs,
Cheap as chips. It's $1.20/L here
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Cheap as chips. It's $1.20/L here
Noticed that when I was in Taree last year mid north coast NSW.

LPG 30c/L more expensive than Melbourne.
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It was 39 cents a litre for LPG when I bought my first LPG Falcon. Good times.

Back then, petrol was more than 3 times the price of gas. Now it's 2.5 or so.

That 80 cents should jump once the northern hemisphere winter starts.
Lpg was 18-20c when I started using it
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