Petrol Price crisis......

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

Lpg was 18-20c when I started using it

But I'm a millennial

[ford71V8]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

Lpg was 18-20c when I started using it

I remember 12c/litre and was miffed it jumped to a ridiculous 19c!!!

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by kypez

But I'm a millennial

Millenial also sometimes known as entitled,unfortunately

[kypez]

Originally Posted by ford71V8

I remember 12c/litre and was miffed it jumped to a ridiculous 19c!!!

Dad tells me of when he used to pay 11 cents for Super in the 70's. What a time to be alive! Wonder what LPG was in the mid to late 70's.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

Millenial also sometimes known as entitled,unfortunately

Seems you missed the joke...

But yes, seems we are "entitled" to $2.50 a litre for fuel and a housing affordability crisis.

[GCRXR6]

Originally Posted by kypez

Dad tells me of when he used to pay 11 cents for Super in the 70's. What a time to be alive! Wonder what LPG was in the mid to late 70's.

Super around 30c/gal when I started driving in 71. Wow, 6.75/ltr and earning around $100 per fortnight. Unleaded is $2.20 or 32.5 times that price today. Certainly not earning $3200 per fortnight today.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by kypez

Dad tells me of when he used to pay 11 cents for Super in the 70's. What a time to be alive! Wonder what LPG was in the mid to late 70's.

Cannot remember, but my brother had his car put on gas in the mid 70's, the tank was mounted on the roof, that lasted only a year or two before being legislated to the boot.
I was paying about 13 cents in 82 when I had the commodore put on gas.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Itsme

Cannot remember, but my brother had his car put on gas in the mid 70's, the tank was mounted on the roof, that lasted only a year or two before being legislated to the boot.
I was paying about 13 cents in 82 when I had the commodore put on gas.

Lot's of LPG swaps in the mid 70's oil crisis.
I can remember using around 2 tanks of super per day in the early 80's but don't recall ever worrying about the price at the time to go gas.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Seems some on Facebook are getting decent discounts from the 'price lock' options? Probably too late to apply when prices already going up.

There are several price comparison apps available - I use PetrolSpy. Saved me a heap but you need to look at the dates the prices were entered to make sure they are up to date.

Wonder how long gas will be around considering how it's being deamonised for residential use?

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Wonder how long gas will be around considering how it's being deamonised for residential use?

But what's going to power the good ol Aussie barbie.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

But what's going to power the good ol Aussie barbie.

Good old coal...

Oh, hang on...

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Lot's of LPG swaps in the mid 70's oil crisis.
I can remember using around 2 tanks of super per day in the early 80's but don't recall ever worrying about the price at the time to go gas.

I can remember the oil embargo from opec to the usa in early 70's, that sent shockwaves around the world, added with petrol strikes here, this is what started off lpg conversions, taxi industry was the first to get on board.
I hated the petrol strikes in those days as there were no rationing at all, fist in best dressed.

[Franco Cozzo]

98 is $2.40/L around Melbourne at the moment,

[PooDog]

Originally Posted by Itsme

I can remember the oil embargo from opec to the usa in early 70's, that sent shockwaves around the world, added with petrol strikes here, this is what started off lpg conversions, taxi industry was the first to get on board.
I hated the petrol strikes in those days as there were no rationing at all, fist in best dressed.

I can remember in NZ we had carless days in 1979 lasted about a year and achieved nothing, you had a sticker you had to put on the windscreen.....think you could choose the day ?.....piece of brilliance by the fearless leaders

[five 7]

[QUOTE=PooDog;6842194]I can remember in NZ we had carless days in 1979 lasted about a year and achieved nothing, you had a sticker you had to put on the windscreen.....think you could choose the day ?.....piece of brilliance by the fearless leaders.

If you knew the right people you could get the X sticker. Politics hasn't changed much.

[1970XW351]

Went to the South side of Brisbane on Tuesday, typically, in my neck of the woods e10 91 is around $1.97/L and it jumps roughly 10c up from there for 95, 98 and diesel, with 98 averaging $2.20. (with the exception of Ampol, which is always 10-15cpl more than anywhere else... EVEN Shell)...

Anyway, other than a few outliers, Brisbane prices seemed to start at $2.35 odd for 91... Like, sweet merciful Christ. I thought it was bad out this way.

Cheers, Tony

[five 7]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Lot's of LPG swaps in the mid 70's oil crisis.
I can remember using around 2 tanks of super per day in the early 80's but don't recall ever worrying about the price at the time to go gas.

We got cng as well, nothing like driving around with 3000 psi bomb in the boot.

[Franco Cozzo]

There was someone here on AFF who converted their B series Falcon to run on natural gas recently, as in they posted here a few months ago asking for help tuning it, they were able to fill it at home too.

Apparently methane has an octane rating of 120 as well,

[EBSXR6]

Originally Posted by kypez

Dad tells me of when he used to pay 11 cents for Super in the 70's. What a time to be alive! Wonder what LPG was in the mid to late 70's.

A mates Dad had his own Taxi, brought a new early build XB 302 Fairmont and ran it on LPG. He was the first person I knew that ran a Car on LPG.
Back then the owners could run a V8 two years longer as a Taxi.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

There was someone here on AFF who converted their B series Falcon to run on natural gas recently, as in they posted here a few months ago asking for help tuning it, they were able to fill it at home too.



Apparently methane has an octane rating of 120 as well,

Been overseas in India for the last couple of weeks. All the new taxis run petrol and CNG. And they swear by CNG.

Typically, Natural Gas calorific value is much less than LPG (Hello Ethanol vs petrol) but savings would be great if you filled it at home.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by kypez

Been overseas in India for the last couple of weeks. All the new taxis run petrol and CNG. And they swear by CNG.

Did you bring me back a suitcase of Ford Trader spares ?

[PooDog]

Originally Posted by five 7

We got cng as well, nothing like driving around with 3000 psi bomb in the boot.

Had. A 90l CNG tank in the back of a Valiant Safari wagon ,,man it was heavy ,used to run really well on it at about 80 mph all the rattles and vibration used. to clear and it used to just hum along leaving Holdens and Falcons in the dust

[T1 Terry]

I'd love to find a CNG set up now, setting up a hydrogen to synthetic methane plant might be a tad tricky in the suburban back yard, but at least there would be methane (natural gas) available to be piped into the house/yard. The compressor isn't all that expensive these days and could be run from solar/battery .... but a hybrid electric drive upgrade combined with the original engine would still be easier to fit and set up .....

Put the new NiMh traction battery in my '06 silver Prius during the week, the orange taxi Prius has too many issues that need attention at the moment .... instant return to 5 ltr/100km while still being driven hard has an amazing effect on the smile factor ;)

T1 Terry

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

There was someone here on AFF who converted their B series Falcon to run on natural gas recently, as in they posted here a few months ago asking for help tuning it, they were able to fill it at home too.

Apparently methane has an octane rating of 120 as well,

A mate came back thrilled once after having put avgas in his 202 Kingswood, was going on about the higher octane and had just tried to race everything he could see in it! I think I know now it's closer to kerosene? In that case lucky he still had some petrol in the tank.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by eleanor.automotive

Just doing some research, have recently completed a Compressed natural gas conversion ( Methane ) on my Barra 4L powered BA wagon utilizing a injection system that piggy backs off the factory fuel injection, it has its own computer etc. Am having trouble tuning the thing, my gut suspicion is the oxygen sensor fitted to the petrol engine is not wide band enough to provide an adequate sampling rate signal to the gas control ecu.
1 - Does anyone know if the BA falcon has a wide band oxygen sensor fitted, if not, would the petrol ecu tolerate a wide band sensor being installed without flashing the ecu ?
2 - Am thinking of running a sepparate wide band oxygen sensor just for the GAS ecu to provide the necessary sampling required.

All constructive input if appreciated, and before anyone comments, I refuel from home with a refueling appliance from a town gas supply, and given the cost of petrol in Australia right now its a very attractive conversion for me at the moment.

The tank in the vehicle is a 80 litre, holds approximately 25 cubic meters of natural gas full at 3600 psi, i get approximately 220km out a full tank and costs me 26 dollars to fill. Its the equivalent of 27 liters of petrol.

The conversion so far: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM330nJRBY4&t=17s

The refuelling appliance control interface: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8WOn-Hizar0

Thanks again

Here we go, this is the post here.

$26 to fill 23m3 of natural gas, about 250km range.

The only other thing I've seen like this was like 15 years ago when people on Ford Mods were trying to make HHO from the alternator while driving and putting it into the intake with varying results

http://www.fordmods.com/ford-lpg-hyd...as-t59449.html

There's the thread

[PooDog]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

A mate came back thrilled once after having put avgas in his 202 Kingswood, was going on about the higher octane and had just tried to race everything he could see in it! I think I know now it's closer to kerosene? In that case lucky he still had some petrol in the tank.

Jet fuel is Kero , Avgas is normally around 100 octane leaded for planes like Cessna etc with ice motors, over here they dye it a blue colour

[kypez]

Originally Posted by PooDog

Jet fuel is Kero , Avgas is normally around 100 octane leaded for planes like Cessna etc with ice motors, over here they dye it a blue colour

You can run Avgas rich which is about 130 octane. Great for boosted engines! Lean is 100.

Think SMSP has 102 race fuel.

Few years ago, Shell used to sell a E5 100 octane fuel. My poor BA computer just couldn't advance the timing enough to use it and the low compression motor was a problem vs the GT higher compression.

[fordomatic]

Mrs paid 191.2 for 91 at Wodonga on the way home from Melbourne. Was 231.9 up the road.

Paid 198.7 this morning at Costco. Was 216.9 at the servo i drove past on the way to work.

[Woefulfogger]

BP here in Adelaide's north had 91 for 183.9 when went past at 11.30am Saturday
Went past at 3pm and down to 181.9
Past again at 5.45 and down further to 178.9.
Filled both cars and jerry can for the mower.
Checked the RAA fuel price app at 11pm, and bingo, 201.9.
Price now? 198.9

[GASWAGON]

Brent crude barrel price down to just below $70 after 25% slump after U.S summer.

Great news just in time for Xmas.