Depression, Anxiety - Page 9

SYZ · 04-03-2016, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by castellan

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Apart from being—on the whole—a total disconnect from the general thrust of this thread, your various comments could only be seen as ignorantly ill-conceived at best, or willfully inflammatory at worst, to most of the people posting here who are either suffering from depression or anxiety, or who have family or friends who are sufferers. The repetitively singular nature of your comments indicates that you have no real comprehension of the nature of clinically diagnosed depressive illnesses or the acknowledged negative social and psychological ramifications for people living with them in everyday life, or those trying their best to "fit in" with people around them in the office or school, or in the street.

In my humble opinion, each of your three quoted comments, above, have been nothing more than a cheap soapbox for you to expound many of your personally-held gripes. You've managed to introduce Hitler, gun laws, Communism, attacking ambos, police being spat on, racism, a "gutless" younger generation, today's men are "not real men", Australia is a "cesspit", and drug dealers.

I'd therefore appreciate it if you could think a little more carefully before posting any further comments to this particular thread, and if you do post, could you please show a little empathy with people such as myself—and others here—who are suffering from a mental illness, whatever its nature or degree. I've enjoyed reading the other members' comments thus far, and I thank them for being so upfront and honest. On the other hand, most of your comments seem to be aimed at what you perceive as broader issues troubling the modern world, and they're issues that frustrate you in that you don't have any answers.

I'm more than happy to respond constructively to your further appropriate and non-confrontational comments regarding depressive illnesses, but again would appreciate your considering at more depth the words you post. Thank you.

olfella · 04-03-2016, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

I'd suggest less love for editing in this thread!

If you know so much then how about a bit of consideration for those that the thread was set up for. They, (me included) do not want to know what your friends did or didnt do - they (me included) want first hand experiences not third hand crap from 'a sympathiser'. I tried to put that as nice as I could but if you want me to got to town and spell it out for then I ******* well will.

**MR REKLAW** · 04-03-2016, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

I can still see the link and relevance of chatting about violence,schooling and other events.

I Cant,this thread is about Depression and /or Anxiety, not your's or any one else's personal soap box.

As for violence,it appears that some in this thread,advocate this sort of behaviour,
as a buy product of there life style and not a clinical diagnosed issue.

It also appears,that some of the comments in this thread,are for the won't of a better word,lacking in there knowledge of the issue,due to not listening to the subject's being discussed,during there schooling years.Uneducated dolts.

As for other events,in peoples lives,a lot of people have already,stated quite clearly,the events in there lives,caused by said thread title.

So in keeping with said thread title,I my self suffer from anxiety,but to combat this problem,I have a job which requires me,to overcome the issue and get on with my life and yes i take anti depressant,but I am not an overly aggressive person generally,but yes if you press the right buttons,i can snap and strike out like any body else,but because of the nature of my work,I usually step back and try and asses things as calmly as possible,other wise I would be out of work and in a lot worse place than I am now.

So to those who have,greater issues than I,keep up the good fight and ignore those who,have no apparent idea or sympathy for those who are suffering.

Road Games · 04-03-2016, 09:12 PM

Give up alcohol and taking drugs if that is what you do to get by, that's a bloody good start to ridding yourself of the black dog.

WORD!

olfella · 05-03-2016, 01:57 AM

And just in case you think otherwise, I will spell it out for you in a nice easy to understand sort of way. This is supposed to be a self help thread. It is not meant to be a discussion about ****** theorising about mental health. We dont want to know what your neighbor or you mates best friend has. We just want to be able to support each other without your interferrence.

yakcam · 05-03-2016, 02:07 AM

Jesus, this thread isn't one I want to contribute to and I'm on the verge of doing myself daily (got drugs to help). A lot of ego's here and I'm battling a couple of those already, I don't need more in my life. What a waste of what could've been a helpful thread...

Bummer :(

superyob · 05-03-2016, 07:32 AM

Olfella, there is no need to get so personal. 1Tuffute has a right to his opinions and I can see merit in them. I know I am just an outsider looking in but it was an interesting thread until your series of unwarranted insults...

I hope this thread stays open...

**buggerlugs** · 05-03-2016, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by superyob

Olfella, there is no need to get so personal. 1Tuffute has a right to his opinions and I can see merit in them. I know I am just an outsider looking in but it was an interesting thread until your series of unwarranted insults...

I hope this thread stays open...

Nope, sorry, I'm with The Olfella, This guy has had it coming for ages. Easy solution, find a new forum, there is plenty of them................

**russellw** · 05-03-2016, 07:57 AM

Can we please get this thread back on track now that it's been heavily edited.

I don't want to see it closed but a repeat of the last 24 hours will see that happen along with some holidays.

Russ

olfella · 05-03-2016, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by superyob

Olfella, there is no need to get so personal. 1Tuffute has a right to his opinions and I can see merit in them. I know I am just an outsider looking in but it was an interesting thread until your series of unwarranted insults...

I hope this thread stays open...

Some as well as your self may have read what I put up last night and upon reflection, I must sincerely apologise to 1Tuffute.

Unfortunately, I did over step boundaries and my words were inappropriate.

That is what happens to me at times. Like trejo, my condition causes me to be explosive and when I get on that path... well it is not nice. I have and still do try and control it but not always successful and unfortunately, sometimes my resilience is low and it does not take much to trigger.

So 1Tuffute, I hope you accept my apology and also accept the advice that when anyone is in a state like I was in, and yes it is hard to tell when online, please don't keep feeding the beast.

I also do not want this thread to close, especially as I and many others do value it. While there are those that do not post, just reading FIRST HAND experiences is very valuable.

Boosted8 · 05-03-2016, 12:42 PM

Beginning to stress a lot about the course I'm studying atm.

Basically I feel like I'm buried under the workload most of the time and then it seems like they keep giving me stupid assessments (on topics like WHS and copyright) which just waste my time.

This has been causing some serious anxiety... it feels like I'm running an endless race trying to stay "in front" of the assessments.

1TUFFUTE · 05-03-2016, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by olfella

If you know so much then how about a bit of consideration for those that the thread was set up for. They, (me included) do not want to know what your friends did or didnt do - they (me included) want first hand experiences not third hand crap from 'a sympathiser'. I tried to put that as nice as I could but if you want me to got to town and spell it out for then I ******* well will.

Mate totally all good, no probs bud! Water off a ducks back. But my offer still stands to talk to my wife as out of all that was said....that stuck. As allready explained she is an amazing girl, who USED to suffer from chronic depression but now is cured, for lack of better words. She is still anxious tho her whole family is rather extreme in that case so understandable where it comes from. We are best friends who do 'everything' together!

I'm surprised your above comment was edited and Still left by the mods, as it supports the opinion my comments and advice don't belong here..

^^^^^its not a fair comment at all......as first hand suffers are NOT the only "sufferers" and help and advice in all forms should be welcomed! IMHO

1TUFFUTE · 05-03-2016, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by superyob

Olfella, there is no need to get so personal. 1Tuffute has a right to his opinions and I can see merit in them. I know I am just an outsider looking in but it was an interesting thread until your series of unwarranted insults...

I hope this thread stays open...

Thanks bud! And I've clashed with Superyob before, but he's mature enough to take every comment for what it's worth and put it in perspective....instead of childish stonewalls as soon as people see a name!

pottery beige · 05-03-2016, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by yakcam

Jesus, this thread isn't one I want to contribute to and I'm on the verge of doing myself daily (got drugs to help). A lot of ego's here and I'm battling a couple of those already, I don't need more in my life. What a waste of what could've been a helpful thread...

Bummer :(

keep fighting the good fight mate

at times its a black hole with no light at the end of it

ive developed my own skills over the years that help me pick myself up

phone a friend, visit a friend, get outside the house, go for a walk, walk the dog, water the garden and listen to the birds

distraction is the key in my battle and im not taking anything away from what you may be going through

1TUFFUTE · 05-03-2016, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by yakcam

Jesus, this thread isn't one I want to contribute to and I'm on the verge of doing myself daily (got drugs to help). A lot of ego's here and I'm battling a couple of those already, I don't need more in my life. What a waste of what could've been a helpful thread...

Bummer :(

I'm not sure why my reply to you and your situation was deleted Yakcam, but my comments still stand! My heart goes out to anyone in your situation! There is definitely some good reading and advice/support in the first 8 or 9 pages or whatever in this thread!

**thefargo** · 05-03-2016, 01:49 PM

I have been following this thread for a while, with interest. I have been 'detained' for a period of time when my depressed state was considered dangerous for me. After reading pottery's comment above I thought I would add that the 'light at the end of the tunnel' appeared for me with the 'intervention' of dogs.
they provided unconditional love and affection and quite frankly forced me to get up and do things (with them). They needed to be fed, when I couldn't be bothered eating for myself. they demanded to be played with, when I couldn't be bothered doing anything.
I am NOT saying get a dog and your problems will go away, but I am saying that having some one, or something else in your life sometimes is a great motivator.
I have not been without at least one dog, since that time.

**supershifty** · 05-03-2016, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by yakcam

Jesus, this thread isn't one I want to contribute to and I'm on the verge of doing myself daily (got drugs to help). A lot of ego's here and I'm battling a couple of those already, I don't need more in my life. What a waste of what could've been a helpful thread...

Bummer :(

It's still gonna be helpful mate, just needed a "little" alignment to get it back on track.

There's a lot of us members on here that have to deal with "issues", some not so heavy as others. There's some that are on "snap point" every now and then, some that are coping/managing with the mental ****.

I welcome all contributors to this thread, dirty laundry or not - it helps me and others out too.

Russell has made it clear about breaching the T&C's, which I'm sure we are all well aware of. Take it to PM please, not into the public area of this awesome forum.

Cheers guys!

**cs123** · 06-03-2016, 12:37 AM

A timely article

http://www.smh.com.au/good-weekend/h...18-gmxtcx.html

superyob · 06-03-2016, 07:56 AM

That is scary cs123. I must admit though, as a tradesman in Mt Isa in the 80s, this was a subject that I had never heard about, even when I moved to Brisbane in '87, I worked in my trade throughout the 90s and still never came across any of these stories.

Something has changed in society maybe? Perhaps it has always happened and I just never heard about it? But that would mean all the colleagues I worked with over many years either did not mention it or did not know about any such cases as well...

Boosted8 · 06-03-2016, 09:15 AM

Well, still stressing but I guess it doesn't matter.

**Ross 1** · 06-03-2016, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted8

Beginning to stress a lot about the course I'm studying atm.

Basically I feel like I'm buried under the workload most of the time and then it seems like they keep giving me stupid assessments (on topics like WHS and copyright) which just waste my time.

This has been causing some serious anxiety... it feels like I'm running an endless race trying to stay "in front" of the assessments.

Do you have an outlet for stress? I make time, even if it's only once a month, to go fishing. It's not even about catching a fish, it's about watching a sunrise, absolute silence, a time to take a deep breath and try to clear your mind. On a daily basis I'll walk the dog and weekly boxing sessions. You need that small break in your day to you, it's not selfish, it's not better spent with family or friends because after it I am better to be around.

Boosted8 · 06-03-2016, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross 1

Do you have an outlet for stress? I make time, even if it's only once a month, to go fishing. It's not even about catching a fish, it's about watching a sunrise, absolute silence, a time to take a deep breath and try to clear your mind. On a daily basis I'll walk the dog and weekly boxing sessions. You need that small break in your day to you, it's not selfish, it's not better spent with family or friends because after it I am better to be around.

I lift weights and cycle most days but I don't really feel like either are really "outlets" since both are part of my daily routine.

I'm just stressing all the time.

Vincenzo · 06-03-2016, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by superyob

That is scary cs123. I must admit though, as a tradesman in Mt Isa in the 80s, this was a subject that I had never heard about, even when I moved to Brisbane in '87, I worked in my trade throughout the 90s and still never came across any of these stories.

As a retired working Paramedic here in the NT from 1983 to 1998 I can assure you it did go on. Policy of the Media / Police was to not report it for fear of copy cat stuff. If XXXX wasn.t strong enough to resist then what chance do I have.

The NT has a suicide rate four times the National average particularly in Aboriginal Outstations. They run in a series situation. One suicides, a few days later his friend does the same thing, a few days later ... you get the picture.

Cheers Vinny

**Ross 1** · 06-03-2016, 09:36 AM

Do you have much longer doing the course? Is there a set time frame you have to get through? I had stress, anxiety and mild depression for a decade, at the time every molehill is a mountain and each time you get through the current stress point you wonder why you worried about it but it rears it's head the next time and the next. It took me years to learn how to spot the symptoms and years how to control them. In the time between learning these coping skills I found some relief by taking natural stress relief tablets, unfortunately I think the triggers are different for everyone and there is no generic solution. Writing your feelings down in a forum such as this is a good start and let you know you are not alone.

Boosted8 · 06-03-2016, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross 1

Do you have much longer doing the course? Is there a set time frame you have to get through? I had stress, anxiety and mild depression for a decade, at the time every molehill is a mountain and each time you get through the current stress point you wonder why you worried about it but it rears it's head the next time and the next. It took me years to learn how to spot the symptoms and years how to control them. In the time between learning these coping skills I found some relief by taking natural stress relief tablets, unfortunately I think the triggers are different for everyone and there is no generic solution. Writing your feelings down in a forum such as this is a good start and let you know you are not alone.

I have at least one more year for this course.

Unfortunately this isn't a subject that I can just ask friends or family about because very few people have this kind of knowledge.

I think you make some great points about not trying to build things up to be bigger than they are but it's difficult sometimes. For example, right now I have hours upon hours of code in front of me and then the lecturers throw pointless assessments in just because they are forced to by their "masters".

I feel like yelling: "Is it relevant to ask me about workplace health & safety right now!? I'm not stupid enough to take a break from coding to stick my hands inside the power supply!!!"

The stress is real.

Boosted8 · 06-03-2016, 10:35 AM

Maybe I just need to get laid.

**cs123** · 06-03-2016, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted8

Unfortunately this isn't a subject that I can just ask friends or family about because very few people have this kind of knowledge.

Curious as to what you are studying?

**Ross 1** · 06-03-2016, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted8

Maybe I just need to get laid.

Never under estimate the benefits of the love or loving of a good woman.

**buggerlugs** · 06-03-2016, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross 1

Never under estimate the benefits of the love or loving of a good woman.

Or if your not that way inclined, a good man

**solarite_guy** · 06-03-2016, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross 1

Never under estimate the benefits of the love or loving of a good woman.

What a great thread.

I think different people have different underling causes.

In my experience I think there is a lot to be said for what you said for my situation. I've had 2 bouts of depression and anxiety/panic triggered by 2 totally different things happening 30 years apart.

I have to give credit to a beautiful young woman this go around. From late 2008 to mid 2014 went through a series of losses, including my mum, serious lower leg fractures, business (good old "recession"), wife moved out (still paying her rent on a house 1 mile from the beach in North Carolina...no, I wasn't unfaithful), sheriffs knocking on the door any time day or night with with all sorts of legal and financial notices, etc, etc,etc.

One med worked pretty well, especially for panic attacks. The docs switched me to a long term med that I hated. From an efficacy standpoint it worked about as well as taking a candy. However, it had bad side effects.

Keeping my mind busy was extremely helpful.

However, one day I came across a very beautiful young woman. I am 60 right now and she is in her 20s and in all honesty looks like a world class model. I approached her thinking I have nothing else to lose all she can do is say no. She said yes. She was at her own cross roads at the time. Within weeks I was off that med and that episode seems to be in the past now...still keeping my mind as busy though.

First episode, much younger in my early 20s and suffered a significant injury and had to stop my level of physical activity for a prolonged period. Back then, there was little to no understanding of how endorphins naturally produced during heavy physical activity can become addictive. I went into a depression. I had always been a pretty good athlete, did a lot of heavy work even as a child helping my dad, exercised all the time, moved pianos for money while attending university and one day all that stopped.

No one could correlate that I went cold turkey on my own endorphins. One day after I could move around somewhat normally again, a fella who knew me and understood the situation dropped off a couple old bicycles he wanted fixed up so he could resell. After finishing one, I took it for a spin. I felt pretty good from that. I started riding bikes again and that led to feeling "normal" again.

Body and mind. Still a lot to learn.